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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2007, 04:09:37 PM »
He didn't lock out his back, dipshit. He's a strong guy, but there is no way in hell he can do a competition deadlift with 675 lb.

Lol, WTF are you talking about?  I have been a powerlifting judge.  I work with the best in the powerlifting world.  I know what will pass and what will not.

Please pick something else to complain about.  Perhaps my bald spot?
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2007, 04:10:58 PM »
You are a strong deadlifter, nice work.
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2007, 04:15:05 PM »
Outstanding deadlift Chris, particularly with NO lifting belt, multi-ply deadlift suit, or straps!!

Are you an all-natural weight-trainer?  I see that you weigh approx. 225 lbs. 

As we discussed in a previous thread, if you are drug-free then you can theoretically add roughly a third to this poundage (to adjust for doping) and to compensate for the lack of either a multi-ply deadlift suit/belt add another 50-100 lbs...so that would be what...approx. 850-900 lbs. "adjusted"?!

Back in my "prime", I eventually reached 605 lbs. at a bwt. of 200 lbs. with only a 4-in. wide lifting belt and no straps (used a hook grip).  Sadly though, it was a "gym lift" and I didn't have a camera (how I wish!)...so I "honestly" can only claim my official PL contest lift of 520 lbs. at a bwt. of 185 lbs. (light in bwt. while competing in the 198 lb. class).  Of course, these lifts were drug-free.

By the way, I watched Bob Peoples deadlift and he kept his hips high in the get-set position over the bar...almost like a stiff-legged dead with a "soft" knee lock.

Again, congratulations Chris on an outstanding dead, particularly w/o any belt/support-gear!!

By the way, have you tried to do a 1RM on the Gerard trap bar?

Thank you. 

I am drug free, yes.

Trust me, I think about what you are proposing quite a bit because I will hit well over 700 lbs drug free and raw before I am done.  If I were to use anabolics and other gear I think I could hit over 900 lbs at my best and that would be at a relatively light body weight.  I think about it a lot...

That said, I have a wife and 3 kids and at this point I want to lengthen my life not possibly shorten it so I stay drug free and have to be happy with what I can do.
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2007, 04:16:33 PM »
I want to thank everyone who has complimented me in this thread.  It feels good and I appreciate it.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2007, 04:26:27 PM »
Damn dude that is strong, also given the width of your feet on the lift.  If you went sumo style, jeez there's telling how much you could pull.  Absolutely out of this world.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2007, 04:29:21 PM »
Chris don't let the internet training experts put down that fantastic lift. Most of them live at home and deliver pizza for their juice money.  If they can do 635 for 2 reps let them video it.  

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »
Thanks Chris.  You just kicked the ass out of my best by 100lb.  Doh!

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2007, 06:08:56 PM »
Lol, WTF are you talking about?  I have been a powerlifting judge.  I work with the best in the powerlifting world.  I know what will pass and what will not.

Please pick something else to complain about.  Perhaps my bald spot?

   I already complained about the bald spot. ;D

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2007, 06:25:05 PM »
Just for the record....

My comments were intended for bodybuilders; powerlifters are a different kettle of fish... those guys will gladly sacrifice form (and safety) for poundage. I simply meant to point out that a 500 lb deadlift (done bodybuilding style) is a tremendous achievement and frankly, beyond the capabilities/potential of most trainees... just wanted to point that out before we have a youtube video of Alexxx herniating a disk with 135 lbs.

And yes Chris, it should have been "unheeded"... gotta make the occasional mistake to maintain rapport with the mere mortals.

Again, congrats on the lift. Simply amazing poundage for a natural.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2007, 06:47:17 PM »
Thank you. 

I am drug free, yes.

Trust me, I think about what you are proposing quite a bit because I will hit well over 700 lbs drug free and raw before I am done.  If I were to use anabolics and other gear I think I could hit over 900 lbs at my best and that would be at a relatively light body weight.  I think about it a lot...

That said, I have a wife and 3 kids and at this point I want to lengthen my life not possibly shorten it so I stay drug free and have to be happy with what I can do.

Chris, doing 635 lbs. for reps in the deadlift, at an approx. 220 lb. ALL-NATURAL bwt. w/o ANY support gear, is a truly phemonenal achievement!!

Most of us guys, who are all-natural lifters in the 200 lb. bwt. range, have had just enough experience struggling up with deads in the 500-600 lb. range to TRULY appreciate the magnitude of your accomplishment...particu larly being drug-free and w/o using even a single-ply lifting belt for back support!




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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2007, 06:51:25 PM »
Dude is a beast

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2007, 06:53:35 PM »
Chris, doing 635 lbs. for reps in the deadlift, at an approx. 220 lb. ALL-NATURAL bwt. w/o ANY support gear, is a truly phemonenal achievement!!

Most of us guys, who are all-natural lifters in the 200 lb. bwt. range, have had just enough experience struggling up with deads in the 500-600 lb. range to TRULY appreciate the magnitude of your accomplishment...particu larly being drug-free and w/o using even a single-ply lifting belt for back support!





I second that!


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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2007, 07:23:07 PM »
Just for the record....

My comments were intended for bodybuilders; powerlifters are a different kettle of fish... those guys will gladly sacrifice form (and safety) for poundage. I simply meant to point out that a 500 lb deadlift (done bodybuilding style) is a tremendous achievement and frankly, beyond the capabilities/potential of most trainees...

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In my five decades of lifting, I've come to the conclusion, after observing seeming legions of lifters incur back injuries through deads, that some individuals have leverages that are so favorable to deads that regardless of how much they round their backs, at the critical point of clearing the knees with the straight bar, that they never incur back injuries.  However, others w/o these favorable leverages are literally playing “Russian roulette” with their backs in trying to emulate the “pull-out-all-the-stops” back rounding form/technique of deadlifting on a 1 RM effort!

The great Bob Peoples started with his hips high, did almost a “stiff-legged” deadlift, and rounded his back considerably…but he seemed to have perfect leverages for the deadlift and his finger-tips seemed to dangle just below his knees!  Go figure?!

Yeah, we all know that we are supposed to keep our backs flat while doing deads…but who REALLY does this when doing a true 1RM, or squeezing out the last of your reps.?! 

Personally, not having good leverages for the deadlift and not being a competitive powerlifter anymore, but still pushing to beat personal records (at different stages of my life), the Gerard trap bar was a “salvation” to me.

The trap bar allows trainees, like myself, with relatively poor deadlifting leverages to set their hips low in a “perfect” get-set position (which a straight bar prevents some lifters from doing at all!), and then being able to pull the bar straight up and back over ones’ heels. Thus, one gains much better leverage and SAFETY to ones’ lower back…because rounding of the spine is minimized (compared to the straight bar) as the bar passes the knees!



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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2007, 08:11:54 PM »
Richard2004,

The critical factors are:
-thigh bone to torso length ratio (which decides how "optimum" your starting position is)
-ankle flexibility (same as above)
-shin length to thigh bone length ratio (which is a measure of stunting/cold-adaption)

...these factors expalin the pattern you are seeing. Glad someone else noticed it.

Those who can/do deadlift with a rounded UPPER back generally suffer no noticeable ill affects... no NOTICEABLE effects because the damage takes longer to present itself as a debilitating condition.

Rounded lower back = back problems in 40s/50s
Rounded upper back = back problems in 50s/60s
Flat back = no difference from non-lifters
Arched back = robust lumbar health well into 70s/80s

I have formulas for working out predictive trends from almost all the body ratios... from finger length ratios to ankle and wrist ratios (surprisingly finger length ratios can best predict bodybuilding aptitude/potential). I really must get around to writing a How-To guide or an article or something. 

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2007, 08:17:34 PM »
hahahahaha, you hang on our every word, we rule your thoughts.

I'd love to see a video of you deading even 300lbs.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2007, 04:35:49 AM »
Thanks all!

gtbro -  :P  Lol, it sucks losing hair.  It's funny that I didn't realize how bad it was getting until I saw the video... :-[

Ahhh well, c'est la vie.
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2007, 06:06:46 AM »
It's a good lift but I do agree about the form. He definitely had a rounded back and I believe that's asking for trouble in the long run. I would consider Trop's deadlifting form to be ideal for a bodybuilder. I think he also did 635 x 2 in a video and did not stop and do a complete reset.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2007, 06:20:01 AM »
GREAT LIFT CHRIS

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2007, 06:31:27 AM »
awesome lift chris..amazing strength dude..
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2007, 06:46:37 AM »
Good lift, keep it up.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »
whats crazy is that Mr I is only 50lbs away from benching that weight ;D

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2007, 12:01:37 PM »
Impressive lifts Chris...i've seen alot of power lifters use that form and there is nothing wrong with it if your body is ready for it.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2007, 12:03:34 PM »
whats crazy is that Mr I is only 50lbs away from benching that weight ;D

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2007, 12:33:30 PM »
I almost didn't view this thread since I figured it would be some bs post. Boy, was I wrong. Freaking insaine lift Chris, be careful and keep up the good work.
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2007, 05:29:20 PM »
I almost didn't view this thread since I figured it would be some bs post. Boy, was I wrong. Freaking insaine lift Chris, be careful and keep up the good work.

Thank you!
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