The Jimmy Thompson Thread - I am

[VIENIO]

well why would reproduction mean anything? homosexuality exists in nature, in humans and in animals. so in that sense it IS natural. but yeah, two women having sex wont reproduce. and two men having sex wont either. so what.

why would reproduction mean anything?
wow what a question, how about 'life'.

Yeah homosexuality exits, doest mean its natural, I BELEIVE that it exists because of some genetic deficiency.

Vienno, thanks for comparing sex with animals to sex between consenting adults. Great logic you have there.

Also, you natural argument is about 2000 years old. If you were to devalue anything that isn't natural you would have to include your computer, medicine, artificial limbs and even steroids.

As far as it being unnatural to reproduction I suppose you want to be the one to tell the millions of steril couples in the world that they are unnatural and should have their marriage licenses revolked? Are you going to go into every couples bedroom that doesn plan on procreating and telling them that they can't have sex because it would be unnatural? Give me a break

Vienio "Getbigs very own Sex Cop", Invading bedrooms everywhere.

Dude take a course in logic and ethics before you start spouting off your mouth on a message board.

The comparison between humans and animal sex was used to argue the arguement peopel use "to get with the 21st century".  Its so accepted now that if you go against it you, are ignorant and old fashonied.  My point was that if something is not accepted now and will be accepted in 50 years, lets see what this generation will think.  YOu can use any argument-that was just an example.


My argument is 2000 years old?
and.....? Sounds like a good one if it has lasted that long.
There is a lot of things coming out that are unnatural since we have the technology to create it.  WHy would you say computer or artificial limbs?  That has nothing to do with nature.  Yes, medicine and steroids have been created, a lot of it is artificial and harmful and will cause genetic manipulation.

YOur statement about reproduction and marriage-  If they cant reproduce, then there is something wrong with their system, ask them yourself, ask them since they cant reproduce is there something wrong with their bodies.  Everything you mentioned after that, IM not sure why you mentioned all that,I never talked about what I wanted to happen to homosexuals or sterile couples.

I took courses, dont worry.  As for you, join some debate team or read a book on argumentation  and maybe you'll learn to stay on topic, refrain from making useless statements, learn how to interpret sentences and avoid insulting people that dont have the same opinion as you.

[Yorkie T]

well why would reproduction mean anything? homosexuality exists in nature, in humans and in animals. so in that sense it IS natural. but yeah, two women having sex wont reproduce. and two men having sex wont either. so what.

Vienio yu need to understand that if the word gay gets mentioned bluto will be very offended, he models himself on bluto from popeye (a fat hairy guy with a beard) and is quite the musclebear, atm hes in a relationship with nycbull.
He practices mma but doesnt know anything about martial arts aswell.

In other words he shouldnt be taken seriously, just a hairy troll who cruises bb boards for gay sex. Isnt that right bluto  

[Yorkie T]

OK I'm back from my monthly trip to London. I sit on the board of a Plc as non executive Director once a month. Nice location in Knighsbridge next door to Harrods. I also advise to the board of Scottish Enterprise and have non exec roles in 2 other businesses. This is what happens when you apply yourself to your studies and career in your 30's and 40's and only do bodybuilding as a hobby. These non exec positions only take up 4 days a month and boy do they top up the old pension nicely.

I'm going to wait until the hysteria dies down before continuing my posts.  Funny that Vince mentions the richest guy in the world. He is talking about John Paul Getty who was a staunch bodybuilding supporter. Getty, the Weiders , Heidenstam and Saville were the force behind the cult. I will detail more soon but please everyone stop the hysteria and homophobia.

By the way Vince, there is no law of liable in Scotland. 
 

Thanks for coming back to the thread jimmy, its good that theres people like you that arent afraid to tell the true side of the ifbb. 

[onlyme]

Making statements about guys who have more than 100 million dollars is foolish if those statements are slanderous. Those people will be aware of what Jimmy is posting.

Its only slander if not true.  Jimmy has been around even longer than you Vince.  You are getting like Chic now.  What motive does he have to lie.  The IFBB has been crooked since its inception.  Anything can happen and more than likely has.  I lean towards believing what Jimmy says has happened than when Chic says it doesn't happen. 

[Yorkie T]

Its only slander if not true.  Jimmy has been around even longer than you Vince.  You are getting like Chic now.  What motive does he have to lie.  The IFBB has been crooked since its inception.  Anything can happen and more than likely has.  I lean towards believing what Jimmy says has happened than when Chic says it doesn't happen. 

Good post keith 

[gordiano]

Its only slander if not true.  Jimmy has been around even longer than you Vince.  You are getting like Chic now.  What motive does he have to lie.  The IFBB has been crooked since its inception.  Anything can happen and more than likely has.  I lean towards believing what Jimmy says has happened than when Chic says it doesn't happen. 

Exactly.




I think it's funny that when Mr. Thomson tells us about the dirty deeds of bbing, he's an old, bitter, lying fool. 




I've heard of such stories (as told by Mr.Thomson.) before, and did not pay them any mind. Thing is, it's not from the same source, but from different people. The truth is out there. You can believe it, or not. It's your choice.


I have a hard time believing that so many "men" who don't workout, or look like they have NEVER touched a weight, have such a passion for bbing, and then go on to become more than just bbing fans and end up as judges, insiders, supplement comp. et cetera.


In a way, I can understand why certain aging, wig wearing, 5th tier bbers wouldn't care to have the laundry of their precious industry aired out. I mean, this is how they make their money. And there's such a monopoly on the muscle industry, that they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot.

[gordiano]

Christ there really coming in now, here is a message from a post by well known bodybuilding writer Bill Mortimer  :


I saw Kal go to the mic during the evening show of I believe the AAU Mr. So Cal mid-early 80s. He went on an amazing rant about Weider. I wish I could remember the details. I do remember him saying something like..."Joe, I know some of your people are here tonight...if anything I just said is not true sue me".  He got a standing ovation.

Rumors were hot during that time that an expose was comming out about the bisexuality of the Weiders and what it really took to make it to the top in their camp.

Of course I'm just a lying pathetic jealous old man who would trade his successfull family and professional life for some more Tin trophies am I not ?   

 

[Wombat]

You don't want to run into a retard strong homosexual (all hopped up on E) at 3 a.m. down a dark alley any time soon...

[nycbull]

Yeah homosexuality exits, doest mean its natural, I BELEIVE that it exists because of some genetic deficiency.


The comparison between humans and animal sex was used to argue the arguement peopel use "to get with the 21st century".  Its so accepted now that if you go against it you, are ignorant and old fashonied.  My point was that if something is not accepted now and will be accepted in 50 years, lets see what this generation will think.  YOu can use any argument-that was just an example.


My argument is 2000 years old?
and.....? Sounds like a good one if it has lasted that long.

where is your evidence that it is a genetic "deficiency". One could say it is actually a genetic advantage. Afterall gay men have survived an onslaught of discrimination and hatred  for centuries and yet have managed to be some of the most successfull people our society has. They make well above the average income and have multiple successfull careers in a lifetime. Why can't it be a good thing to be gay?

http://www.lambda.org/famous.htm

You are clearly backing down on your other "arguments" my friend. You clearly implied that only natural things have any value. Although it is proven that homosexuality is natural. What difference would it make? Without "unnatural" human  innovations and creativity we would still be living in caves and men would be raping women and children. Vienio, do you think rape is a good thing?

Your comparison was stupid, Human beings will never accept sex between a human and a non consenting non-human. It would not follow logic.

Dude, you should be more like Bluto. He is a straight guy that isn't threatened by gay people and can develope unbiased logical conclusions and rational arguments based on fact and not hysteria or rehashing losing 2000 year old arguments. If you dont' like gay people fine but trying to devalue them by calling them unnatural is an old trick and only works in trailer parks.

Hey I hear Rick Santorum is looking for a new advisor and head of his Sex Police. You'd be perfect.

[Yorkie T]

Dude, you should be more like Bluto.

Lol bluto is only agreeing with you nycbull because all he does is sit in front of his pc on this site and opens various threads and disagrees with people in it, hes just a saddo who sadly has just got nothing better to do.

That and the fact he thinks he might have a chance of getting a bit of action from you. Do you like men who dress in leathers and look like bluto from popeye?

[nycbull]

Lol bluto is only agreeing with you nycbull because all he does is sit in front of his pc on this site and opens various threads and disagrees with people in it, hes just a saddo who sadly has just got nothing better to do.

That and the fact he thinks he might have a chance of getting a bit of action from you. Do you like men who dress in leathers and look like bluto from popeye?

you should be thankful to masculine gay culture. In fact they are the leaders in preserving what is left of 20th century masculinity after being decimated and castrated by feminists. Funny how you think being and looking masculine is wrong. Man up dude.  Let me guess you shave your chest, pluck your eyebrows and wear Axe body spray....

by the way dude you and some of your friends know way to much about the "leather" and other subcultures. How about staying on straight sites when you trolling the internet. What makes you so curious?

[Yorkie T]

you should be thankful to masculine gay culture. In fact they are the leaders in preserving what is left of 20th century masculinity after being decimated and castrated by feminists. Funny how you think being and looking masculine is wrong. Man up dude.  Let me guess you shave your chest, pluck your eyebrows and wear Axe body spray....

What on earth is axe bodyspray? if its some homo type of spray then your probably better off asking bluto.

Actually in all seriousness i dont think theres anything worse than a bloke who plucks his eyebrows it looks absolutely ridiculous.

[nycbull]

What on earth is axe bodyspray? if its some homo type of spray then your probably better off asking bluto.

Actually in all seriousness i dont think theres anything worse than a bloke who plucks his eyebrows it looks absolutely ridiculous.

Well we agree on one thing then.

[slaveboy1980]

I've just received another e-mail from an Ironage member. This time it is a post by Jon Meade. Is he a member on this site ?

It's too bad I left Muscle Digest when I did, as I was ready
to expose a story within the bodybuilding community that
would have made the Titus tale just about tame (tho in
all respect, it didn't involve death, although could have).
And for those times and 1981, it would have blown the
lid off the b.b. community and industry. There's not another
story like it, before or since.

Wonder what he is talking about 
But of course I'm only a sad old man spreading made up stories am I not ?

jimmy open the bulbous rotting belly of professional bodybuilding...open it wide and let the "fans" smell the old hairy perverted anal fumes.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Chick, Did you ever get propositioned for homo sex?  Did you ever see anything like this.  You have been around BB for a long time, you must have some insight.
It took you 20 years to get your pro card.  Wonder if you gave in to some behind action if you would have gotten it sooner.  I commend you for your persistence and hard work, but honestly, do you not find it at all homosexual being in a room with a bunch of guys wearing speedos gettign oiled up with people gawking at you.  

Tell me this.  Do you get freaked out when guys want to touch your muscles?

I knew this one guy who competed and I swear it was wierd, I saw him at a supplement store and at the drop of a hat pulled off his shirt and dropped his pants to show us his physique days out from a show.  I kind of felt uncomfortable, but he had no issues.  

Jimmy.  Don't let some of these haters get to you.

[Chick]

Chick, Did you ever get propositioned for homo sex?  Did you ever see anything like this.  You have been around BB for a long time, you must have some insight.
It took you 20 years to get your pro card.  Wonder if you gave in to some behind action if you would have gotten it sooner.  I commend you for your persistence and hard work, but honestly, do you not find it at all homosexual being in a room with a bunch of guys wearing speedos gettign oiled up with people gawking at you.  

Tell me this.  Do you get freaked out when guys want to touch your muscles?

I knew this one guy who competed and I swear it was wierd, I saw him at a supplement store and at the drop of a hat pulled off his shirt and dropped his pants to show us his physique days out from a show.  I kind of felt uncomfortable, but he had no issues.  

Jimmy.  Don't let some of these haters get to you.

Yes, I've already stated I've been propositioned 100's of times...so have most pro's. Easy to just ignore the email, not respond, or simply say "No thanks" if they're in person...after you've been in te biz for a while, I think they know who's not interested, as the propositions and inquiries get fewer and less frequent.

No, Honestly I don't find it homosexual to be involved in BB...why would I? I'm not homosexual...I'm at a show to compete and compare my physique level to other pro BB....Would you find playing Rugby "gay" or "homosexual"? Groping, touching, sweating with a bunch of guys while wearing skimpy shorts....or wrestling? rolling around with another guy trying to "pin" him in a submissive position?

You can see where I'm going with this...you can put a "gay" spin on just about anything if that's what you perceive....the only people that look at it as gay, are those who wish to look at it as gay...for whatever reasons thy choose....thy'r gay themselves, they're fighting their own inner demons, they have a chip on their shoulder, etc...

[jonno gb]

Jimmy-how about answering the question regarding competing in a lifetime natural federation when you are a self confessed drug user ie cheating.Do you think this was rife at the time?

[Yorkie T]

Yes, I've already stated I've been propositioned 100's of times...so have most pro's. Easy to just ignore the email, not respond, or simply say "No thanks" if they're in person...after you've been in te biz for a while, I think they know who's not interested, as the propositions and inquiries get fewer and less frequent.

No, Honestly I don't find it homosexual to be involved in BB...why would I? I'm not homosexual...I'm at a show to compete and compare my physique level to other pro BB....Would you find playing Rugby "gay" or "homosexual"? Groping, touching, sweating with a bunch of guys while wearing skimpy shorts....or wrestling? rolling around with another guy trying to "pin" him in a submissive position?

You can see where I'm going with this...you can put a "gay" spin on just about anything if that's what you perceive....the only people that look at it as gay, are those who wish to look at it as gay...for whatever reasons thy choose....thy'r gay themselves, they're fighting their own inner demons, they have a chip on their shoulder, etc...

Is there any truth to all the scandals involving joe weider, do you have any knowledge of this Bob?

[El Diablo Blanco]

Yes, I've already stated I've been propositioned 100's of times...so have most pro's. Easy to just ignore the email, not respond, or simply say "No thanks" if they're in person...after you've been in te biz for a while, I think they know who's not interested, as the propositions and inquiries get fewer and less frequent.

No, Honestly I don't find it homosexual to be involved in BB...why would I? I'm not homosexual...I'm at a show to compete and compare my physique level to other pro BB....Would you find playing Rugby "gay" or "homosexual"? Groping, touching, sweating with a bunch of guys while wearing skimpy shorts....or wrestling? rolling around with another guy trying to "pin" him in a submissive position?

You can see where I'm going with this...you can put a "gay" spin on just about anything if that's what you perceive....the only people that look at it as gay, are those who wish to look at it as gay...for whatever reasons thy choose....thy'r gay themselves, they're fighting their own inner demons, they have a chip on their shoulder, etc...

I agree with you there.  There have been numerous rumours about wrestling, especially in the WWE about the same sort of stuff that is being posted in this thread.

If I walked up to you, total stranger and asked to feel your muscles, would you let me?  It is easy for people to consider that gay but it is also a vanity thing. It is the fact of being appreciated for your hard work at the gym.

[The Heckler]

Jimmy-how about answering the question regarding competing in a lifetime natural federation when you are a self confessed drug user ie cheating.Do you think this was rife at the time?

maybe next month.  In the meantime he's busy fabricating more bullshit lies.

[slaveboy1980]

maybe next month.  In the meantime he's busy fabricating more bullshit lies.

are you weiders toyboy? 

[DEFCON]

Ask me specific questions about individuals and I will give my opinion. But ask yourself this, how come so many guys who do not look like they even work out have such high places within NABBA ot the IFBB?  The Weiders?  Oscar State?  Ivan Dunbar?  What is it that attracts them to bodybuilding when they don't have a physique themselves?

 

they're faggits

[onlyme]

What on earth is axe bodyspray? if its some homo type of spray then your probably better off asking bluto.

Actually in all seriousness i dont think theres anything worse than a bloke who plucks his eyebrows it looks absolutely ridiculous.

Actually I use AXE.  I smells great.  It seems like everytime I wear it at least one or more girls will say how nice I smell.  And I am the farthest you can get from being gay.

[Yorkie T]

Actually I use AXE.  I smells great.  It seems like everytime I wear it at least one or more girls will say how nice I smell.  And I am the farthest you can get from being gay.

I dont think we have axe over here.

[onlyme]

I dont think we have axe over here.

They have really funny commercials.  I have a small can of it I keep in my car.  Just spray it on.