THE ADONIS PROJECT: Building a better body through MCDONALDS.Destroying Anssi M.

[Nordic Superman]

no... we are all the same. You can try to make differences all you want. I bet you are one of those in the closet raciest who tries to pretend there are genetic differences that exist when it comes to this.

Many of the black African races became lactose intolerant along with other races across the world.

Now, it is very rare for northern Europeans to be lactose intolerent because it has been in our diet for thousands of years.

There are variations in different races digestive processes. Fact.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Many of the black African races became lactose intolerant along with other races across the world.

Now, it is very rare for northern Europeans to be lactose intolerent because it has been in our diet for thousands of years.

There are variations in different races digestive processes. Fact.

You refusing to believe this simple concept is equated to a bible sales man who refuses to understand evolution.

[Nordic Superman]

You refusing to believe this simple concept is equated to a bible sales man who refuses to understand evolution.

You're the idiot communist who believes everyone is identical. Sorry son, you're a fuckwad!

[BEAST 8692]

bug

i know you want to believe that a guy just under 6ft. has a lbm of 150 like you, but you obviously haven't ventured out of that room (you post all of your pics from) your whole life, but to say that everyone is the same gentetically and thus respond to exercise in the same way is just pure and utter bull shit.

congratulations, you're as delusional as the owner of that nut sack you ride on.

[Matt C]

no... we are all the same. You can try to make differences all you want. I bet you are one of those in the closet raciest who tries to pretend there are genetic differences that exist when it comes to this.

Pretend there are genetic differences?  Pretending has nothing to do with it.  Adjusting for all possible variables, there are still differences amongst races in terms of average IQ score.  That is scientific fact.  If you want, I will be glad to post you dozens of peer reviewed literature pieces which prove that too.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Pretend there are genetic differences?  Pretending has nothing to do with it.  Adjusting for all possible variables, there are still differences amongst races in terms of average IQ score.  That is scientific fact.  If you want, I will be glad to post you dozens of peer reviewed literature pieces which prove that too.

no... we are all the same. You can try to make differences all you want. I bet you are one of those in the closet raciest who tries to pretend there are genetic differences that exist when it comes to this.

[Matt C]

The_Leafy_Bug - why do some people eat roughly the same diet but look totally different?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

The_Leafy_Bug - why do some people eat roughly the same diet but look totally different?

Because we have different DNA shit head. Im not denying genetic difference. But when you subtract 1 from 3 you will always get 2. What universe are you living in?

[Krankenstein]

Because we have different DNA shit head. Im not denying genetic difference. But when you subtract 1 from 3 you will always get 2. What universe are you living in?

You are so headed for a meltdown.....its almost palpable in your posts....

[pumpher]

no... we are all the same. You can try to make differences all you want. I bet you are one of those in the closet raciest who tries to pretend there are genetic differences that exist when it comes to this.

Because we have different DNA shit head. Im not denying genetic difference. But when you subtract 1 from 3 you will always get 2. What universe are you living in?

You claim we are "all the same," yet you realize that there are genetic differences? You're contradicting yourself, son.

I'm not "trying to make differences," I'm using facts and science, you would know this if you had attended even high school science class.

[Matt C]

Happy New Year to all.

Today begins the first day to building a better body and the official start of destroying Anssi Manninen, the Muscular Development "(gym)Science Editior". I will be eating EVERY single meal at MCDONALD`S to achieve this rather simple feat.

I am saving all of the receipts, keeping a journal and doing some video as well. This project should be very interesting as you will see me mantain a physique at 6 percent and then eventually to an incredible 3 percent and lower. All by eating MCDONALD`S.

NO SUPPLEMENTS
NO DRUGS
NO CARDIO

ALL MCDONALD`S! and of course some weight training.

Follow along with me. Join me. Get in the best shape of your life, eating the greatest, most nutritious, and most economical food available to date.

You won`t regret it.

And when do you plan to post these receipts and update this thread to own Anssi M?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

You claim we are "all the same," yet you realize that there are genetic differences? You're contradicting yourself, son.

I'm not "trying to make differences," I'm using facts and science, you would know this if you had attended even high school science class.

If you feed 2 overweight dogs of the same breed, one with table scraps, and the other with dog food on a restricted calorie diet will they both lose weight? Will they both retain the same ammount of muscle. Lets say 2 dogs with myostatin deletion.... Or how about just 2 normal dogs. Do you think you will tell a differece?

[pumpher]

If you feed 2 overweight dogs of the same breed, one with table scraps, and the other with dog food on a restricted calorie diet will they both lose weight? Will they both retain the same ammount of muscle. Lets say 2 dogs with myostatin deletion.... Or how about just 2 normal dogs. Do you think you will tell a differece?

Exactly the point I'm trying to make.

Canines are of the same genus and species. It's minor genetic variations that account for the multiple breeds, say a pitbull vs. a doberman, vs. a greyhound for instance. Realize that there are genetic differences. If you fed a toy poodle and a great dane the same 10kg of food, what do you think would happen?

There are genetic differences between humans. There are vast differences in translation of proteins. eg. skin pigmentation, secretory enzymes, mitochondrial DNA, etc.. etc..

I'm not saying that total caloric intake is unimportant. In fact it's probably the most important factor. But to ignore differences in macronutrients, metabolic pathways, enzyme regulation etc..., is simply ignorant.

[jason armstrong]

BUTT suck BUG is a demented little geeky fag.

[climber]

BUTT suck BUG is a demented little geeky fag.

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[The_Leafy_Bug]

Exactly the point I'm trying to make.

Canines are of the same genus and species. It's minor genetic variations that account for the multiple breeds, say a pitbull vs. a doberman, vs. a greyhound for instance. Realize that there are genetic differences. If you fed a toy poodle and a great dane the same 10kg of food, what do you think would happen?

There are genetic differences between humans. There are vast differences in translation of proteins. eg. skin pigmentation, secretory enzymes, mitochondrial DNA, etc.. etc..

I'm not saying that total caloric intake is unimportant. In fact it's probably the most important factor. But to ignore differences in macronutrients, metabolic pathways, enzyme regulation etc..., is simply ignorant.

We are talking about HUMANS... Thats like saying a brown dog won't reaact to the exact same diet the the white dog will. We are talking about humans here. Not humans and neanderthals.

[MisterMagoo]

We are talking about HUMANS... Thats like saying a brown dog won't reaact to the exact same diet the the white dog will. We are talking about humans here. Not humans and neanderthals.

dude, you're a kid. you know as much about human physiology and nutrition as you do about nuclear science and the global economy. a few google searches and regurgitating what adonis says doesn't mean you know shit about shit. you don't even have a particularly impressive physique that would back up your theories, you're just lean. i knew kids in high school that looked like you do just from wrestling practices without lifting weights. that's not a flame, it's just reality.

sit back, quit acting like an expert, and come back to us when you actually have some experience under your belt.

[pumpher]

We are talking about HUMANS... Thats like saying a brown dog won't reaact to the exact same diet the the white dog will. We are talking about humans here. Not humans and neanderthals.

My young friend, scroll up. YOU are the one who brought up the discussion on dog breeds. I merely replied.

Of course, I brought the relevant discussion back to humans. And I still claim there are genetic differences between humans, and relevant to this discussion, there are genetic differences between humans in how they digest, absorb, and process food.

[Cee21Jay]

Exactly the point I'm trying to make.

Canines are of the same genus and species. It's minor genetic variations that account for the multiple breeds, say a pitbull vs. a doberman, vs. a greyhound for instance. Realize that there are genetic differences. If you fed a toy poodle and a great dane the same 10kg of food, what do you think would happen?

There are genetic differences between humans. There are vast differences in translation of proteins. eg. skin pigmentation, secretory enzymes, mitochondrial DNA, etc.. etc..

I'm not saying that total caloric intake is unimportant. In fact it's probably the most important factor. But to ignore differences in macronutrients, metabolic pathways, enzyme regulation etc..., is simply ignorant.

No flame.  How do dogs have "minor genetic variations that account for the multiple breeds, say a pitbull vs. a doberman, vs. a greyhound for instance" and humans have "vast differences in translation of proteins. eg. skin pigmentation, secretory enzymes, mitochondrial DNA, etc.. etc.."

I thought if anything it would be the other way around.  I would think that humans were more similar to each other than different breeds of dogs.  Dogs have gone through some hardcore changes due to humans selection of certain traits.  I think people are pretty similar, especially in comparison to something as extreme as breeds of dogs.  Could be wrong however.

[Cee21Jay]

While TA and his crew are correct in saying that humans respond in the same manner to the same inputs over the entire population, they seem to ignore the fact that individuals can be total outliers in a data set.  He speaks as if there are no exceptions to the mean.

I think they ignore the outliers to rile people up and make them consider the possibility that some of the things they say probably have some merit.

[Bast000]

No flame.  How do dogs have "minor genetic variations that account for the multiple breeds, say a pitbull vs. a doberman, vs. a greyhound for instance" and humans have "vast differences in translation of proteins. eg. skin pigmentation, secretory enzymes, mitochondrial DNA, etc.. etc.."

I thought if anything it would be the other way around.  I would think that humans were more similar to each other than different breeds of dogs.  Dogs have gone through some hardcore changes due to humans selection of certain traits.  I think people are pretty similar, especially in comparison to something as extreme as breeds of dogs.  Could be wrong however.

How do you figure, since there are different ethnicities of humans?

[Matt C]

Where are TA's receipts for McDonald's?

[Cee21Jay]

How do you figure, since there are different ethnicities of humans?

You think they are as drastic as dog breeds?   

[The_Leafy_Bug]

dude, you're a kid. you know as much about human physiology and nutrition as you do about nuclear science and the global economy. a few google searches and regurgitating what adonis says doesn't mean you know shit about shit. you don't even have a particularly impressive physique that would back up your theories, you're just lean. i knew kids in high school that looked like you do just from wrestling practices without lifting weights. that's not a flame, it's just reality.

sit back, quit acting like an expert, and come back to us when you actually have some experience under your belt.

I never claimed to be an expert magoo. Just said that it was possible to lose weight and maintain muscle mass on a free calorie diet. Before you critisize someones physique i think you should take a look at yourself in the mirror.

[MisterMagoo]

I never claimed to be an expert magoo. Just said that it was possible to lose weight and maintain muscle mass on a free calorie diet. Before you critisize someones physique i think you should take a look at yourself in the mirror.

it's extremely unlikely. simply put the body reacts to different foods different. this is inarguable. if you get all your protein from soy, all your carbs from sugar, and all of your fat from canola oil you're going to be in a very, VERY different state than if you get them from eggs and oatmeal.

furthermore, if you get all of your calories from protein/fat with a heavy emphasis toward fat, your body goes into ketosis. this doesn't happen when you eat a lot of carbs. all by itself this should tell you that yes, your body DOES differ in its response to nutrient ratios. you can try this any time you'd like, spend a week getting half of your calories from fat using oil, 25% from pure cane sugar, and the other 25% from soy. then do it again, but with 40% of your calories from carbs via oatmeal, and then the rest via eggs and egg whites. see what happens.

if nutrient ratios didn't matter, the RDA wouldn't make guidelines because as long as you got 2000 calories you'd be fine.