Masters World Championship: The Fix Part Deux ?

[jaejonna]

If they do not have the same contest that was won by Chick last year, will that be proof that it was all a fix and set up merely to let Chick win it ?

And if it is held again, will the champion defend his title like a real man, or just hide behind the commentators table with the other 'has beens' and 'never weres'.

[Chick]

As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.

If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.

I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.

Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...

Keep up the good work.

[jaejonna]

As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.

If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.

I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.

Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...

Keep up the good work.

Im just saying, it seems like the contest was just taylor fitted to your BB.com road to the masters DVD...and now that its all said and done, no contest this year ?

[ThaRealist]

Hell I wish Shawn would decide to compete again and easily win a Master's Olympia or World's Title

[shootfighter1]

Damn, they should have that show every year.  So many great BBers that want to continue competing after 40.

[Chick]

Im just saying, it seems like the contest was just taylor fitted to your BB.com road to the masters DVD...and now that its all said and done, no contest this year ?

No...we fitted the W4W DVD to getting ready for the show.

Now that it's said and done...Steve decided not to hold it again this year, as it didn't make any additional money for him...just cost him money.

Even before I became eleigable for the masters...I said it wasn't a profitable venture, hence the Masters Olympis getting the ax a few years back.

It was a nice idea originally, but the former champs they were hoping to come back...didn't. Quite frankly...for the purse, it doesn't really pay (financially) to compete in it.

[ThaRealist]

No...we fitted the W4W DVD to getting ready for the show.

Now that it's said and done...Steve decided not to hold it again this year, as it didn't make any additional money for him...just cost him money.

Even before I became eleigable for the masters...I said it wasn't a profitable venture, hence the Masters Olympis getting the ax a few years back.

It was a nice idea originally, but the former champs they were hoping to come back...didn't. Quite frankly...for the purse, it doesn't really pay (financially) to compete in it.

So when are you going to let guys like Freeman into that secrete???

[Chick]

Huh?

[timfogarty]

why couldn't it just be added to another show?   since you're already renting out the auditorium, there would be little additional cost

[Chick]

why couldn't it just be added to another show?   since you're already renting out the auditorium, there would be little additional cost

...Other than the $20,000 purse.

[ToxicAvenger]

wish there ws a masters this yr....yonnie hamburger ws saying something about it this past summer..

i'd like to see how he does..

[timfogarty]

...Other than the $20,000 purse.

a separate ticket should more than cover that, even if it was only $40

[Chick]

a separate ticket should more than cover that, even if it was only $40

And you think there is enough interest for 1,000 ADDITIONAL people to purchase a $40 ticket??

LOL...

[dan18]

As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.

If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.

I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.

Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...

Keep up the good work.

Take it with a grain of salt bob look whos making the comment,some young punk whos done nothing in the world of bb.Are there cases were one shouldnt have won over another HELL YES  but you cannot control everything a judge is going to do just like in sports the refs dont always make good calls..

You won that show hands down.And adding a  masters show to another venue wouldnt be a bad idea ..  

[timfogarty]

And you think there is enough interest for 1,000 ADDITIONAL people to purchase a $40 ticket??

LOL...

first it's only 500, and they wouldn't all be additional people.  contests often have separate tickets for the men prejudging and the women prejudging, especially figure.  have a separate relatively cheap ticket for prejudging the Masters.  you'll get some people coming specifically for the Masters, and while they're there, some may buy tickets for the other events as well.

but as I've written before, the problem with the pro shows is they try to create these mega events, expecting people to fly in from all around the country, yet they spend very little trying to get the locals to come.   

The Ironman in Pasadena is 6 weeks away.  they should already have ads in the LA Weekly.   In a few weeks they should have ads in Frontiers.    The week before they should be standing outside the major serious gyms handing out 4x6 cards.

[Chick]

first it's only 500, and they wouldn't all be additional people.  contests often have separate tickets for the men prejudging and the women prejudging, especially figure.  have a separate relatively cheap ticket for prejudging the Masters.  you'll get some people coming specifically for the Masters, and while they're there, some may buy tickets for the other events as well.

but as I've written before, the problem with the pro shows is they try to create these mega events, expecting people to fly in from all around the country, yet they spend very little trying to get the locals to come.   

The Ironman in Pasadena is 6 weeks away.  they should already have ads in the LA Weekly.   In a few weeks they should have ads in Frontiers.    The week before they should be standing outside the major serious gyms handing out 4x6 cards.

Yeah...500 if the promoter is looking to break even. Promoters are looking to MAKE money...not break even, and not LOSE money, or they wont be promoting very long.

I'm not even factoring in additional expenses like renting the auditorium for more hours, union costs, awards, flying pro athletes in and putting them up, etc...

Believe me...if there was money to be made...they'd be putting it on.

[MCWAY]

I don't see the point for a Masters show, personally. From what I've seen in history, some of the best bodybuilders ever won the top titles when they were in their forties.

Case in point:

Bill Pearl - won the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe at age 41, at his all-time best 241 lbs.

Chris Dickerson won the Mr. Olympia in 1982 at age 43.

At least one of Franco Columbu's Olympia occurred, when Columbu was in his 40s.

Ronnie Coleman has procured two Olympias in his 40s.

Lou Ferrigno came in his best shape (size and condition) in 1993, at 315 lbs and age 41.

And, there's Vince Taylor, who placed top 5 at the Olympia and Arnold Classic, in his 40s. He would have placed top-5 more often, had DeMilla let him compete in both the Masters and regular Olympia.

Plus, considering how close Mr. Chicerillo came to winning a pro show in 2002, I think he can still hold his own with the IFBB's best.

[MCWAY]

Yeah...500 if the promoter is looking to break even. Promoters are looking to MAKE money...not break even, and not LOSE money, or they wont be promoting very long.

I'm not even factoring in additional expenses like renting the auditorium for more hours, union costs, awards, flying pro athletes in and putting them up, etc...

Believe me...if there was money to be made...they'd be putting it on.

Two questions, Chick!!

1) You didn't get the Darrem Charles' treatment, with regards to your first-place check, did you?

2) Do you still have the hat that Ken Jones tossed you, from the 2004 Orlando Xtreme Pro show?

[Chick]

Two questions, Chick!!

1) You didn't the Darrem Charles' treatment, with regards to your first-place check, did you?

2) Do you still have the hat that Ken Jones tossed you, from the 2004 Orlando Xtreme Pro show?

1.) My check was given to me on the spot from Steve W. there was no problem or delay in cashing it.

2.) No, I tossed it back....

[Option D]

So like toney freeman and ronnie can compete in that show too. If i were them i would do it to get a quick pay day..

Would anyone look down on them?

[jaejonna]

Take it with a grain of salt bob look whos making the comment,some young punk whos done nothing in the world of bb.Are there cases were one shouldnt have won over another HELL YES  but you cannot control everything a judge is going to do just like in sports the refs dont always make good calls..

You won that show hands down.And adding a  masters show to another venue wouldnt be a bad idea ..  

hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.

ps fuck the world of BB...

[Chick]

hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.

ps f**k the world of BB...

Were you there?

Don't you find it a bit ironic that no one who was actually there in attendance disputed the win, or even thought it was close?

[dan18]

hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.

ps f**k the world of BB...

meltdown by the way your to easy as far as kissing his ass ok jj give the man his due you know you were fishing for an argument and nothing like self owning yourself calling yourself a kid.. there are alot of members on here 35 and older some in the squad so what are you saying we should post here.....

maybe when you put the bottle down and move outa mommies house you may learn something. untill then STFU ...

[Fury]

hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.

ps f**k the world of BB...

hahahahaha, Dan18 shouldn't be typing on the computer when he's supposed to be fetching coffee for the workers in the mail room.

[dan18]

hahahahaha, Dan18 shouldn't be typing on the computer when he's supposed to be fetching coffee for the workers in the mail room.

you shouldnt poke your nose were it dont belong