Author Topic: Masters World Championship: The Fix Part Deux ? (Read 6521 times)

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #50 on:** January 02, 2007, 07:22:20 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 02, 2007, 04:11:41 PM

You tell me...you seem to have the pulse of the schmo's as you bring them and homo's up in almost every post you make.

Still have those unresolved issues?

LOL

SecondFocus · « **Reply #51 on:** January 03, 2007, 08:10:37 AM »

Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.

And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.

Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.

jaejonna · « **Reply #52 on:** January 03, 2007, 08:39:14 AM »

Quote from: SecondFocus on January 03, 2007, 08:10:37 AM

Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.

And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.

Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.

I love how people try to talk intelligent but dont even read what the topic was. Ian, Bob was the best....that day... yes (against 7 scrubs)...but WAS the show was all set up to have him win? . Thats why its inaugural year was also its last year. Do you follow ?

Chick · « **Reply #53 on:** January 03, 2007, 08:50:37 AM »

How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered?

jaejonna · « **Reply #54 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:29:34 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 03, 2007, 08:50:37 AM

How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered?

Bob the people who ENTERED were on stage....this was just a fake contest with fake competetion. Thats like playing a football game against your buddies and telling others that your beat the San Diego Chargers, because they COULD of played too.

Chick · « **Reply #55 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:34:00 AM »

Are you high?

Anyone eligable could have entered if they wished...I called out Strydom, Taylor, Flex, and anyone else in the world that wanted to mix it up.

If Ronnie himself wanted to enter, no one could have told him no...

It wasn't an invitational, it was a Masters IFBB Pro show open to anyone with a valid IFBB Pro cad and over 40 years old....GET IT?

NJ_Slinky · « **Reply #56 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:35:27 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 03, 2007, 08:50:37 AM

How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered?

I think what is being said is the show was so bootleg that it couldn't possibly attract a decent pro. It's a legit questioning with a low purse to not entice quality pro's, one year only, winner finally receive a "pro win", hype for site, etc....

You even admit it's not cost effective for most to enter due to preparation costs, so why did you enter?

this thread has merit - delts

Dog Chapman · « **Reply #57 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:35:50 AM »

Bob remember no icy in paradisey! look at what happen to Craig.

he had me and beth on a wild goose chase. lucky for him the cops got him first or i would of maced his face!

Chick · « **Reply #58 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:39:41 AM »

Quote from: NJ_Slinky on January 03, 2007, 09:35:27 AM

I think what is being said is the show was so bootleg that it couldn't possibly attract a decent pro. It's a legit questioning with a low purse to not entice quality pro's, one year only, winner finally receive a "pro win", hype for site, etc....

You even admit it's not cost effective for most to enter due to preparation costs, so why did you enter?

this thread has merit - delts

I entered for a few reasons...

1.) It was cost effective for me, as I believed I had a chance to win it.

2.) It gave me a great reason to make a DVD chronicling my prep for it..

3.) Gave me a chance at a title

4.) By using the PBBW show as a media outlet, I was trying to get more of the 40+ Pro's out on the stage and try and make it a great show entertaining for the fans.

jaejonna · « **Reply #59 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:43:59 AM »

Bob,

With all due respect, not taking anything away from you but you are a 'product'. I know you like to think of yourself as your own person but the people who pay you $$$ do so because (weather we like it or not) you are pretty much the 'face of professional BB'. And if i was your boss and had the chance to 'persuade' a couple of pros not to enter a contest so that our 'spokesperson' can be validated as a champion. Then thats where thier advertising dollars went for that month. Heck, knowing how you talk so frankly, I wouldnt let you in on the secret either. Your just a spoke in the wheel Bob, we are all spokes of some else's wheel 'champ'.

Chick · « **Reply #60 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:47:13 AM »

lolololol...you need to get with 240 on the other conspiracies!

You think BB.com REALLY gives a shit what shws I enter? It wasn't their call...it was mine, just as it is THIS year if I chose to compete or not.

NJ_Slinky · « **Reply #61 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:47:27 AM »

Chick,

Would you be upset if there was an asterisk* next to your IFBB win?

Lift Studios · « **Reply #62 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:49:39 AM »

Bob's episodes on The Fit Show were the best things they've put out to date. Bob had the vast majority of you hate'n on his conditioning 4 weeks out and showed you he's not quite over the hill yet.

You know it's a slow month in the bodybuilding world when this horse is still getting a beating. Thankfully, only a couple months until the conspiracies on the IRONMAN, Sacramento and Arnold winners begin.

jaejonna · « **Reply #63 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:53:13 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 03, 2007, 09:47:13 AM

lolololol...you need to get with 240 on the other conspiracies!

You think BB.com REALLY gives a shit what shws I enter? It wasn't their call...it was mine, just as it is THIS year if I chose to compete or not.

So are they gonna make a new show for you to compete and win in again this year ?

-Rochester Classic
-Masters Moon and Planetary Championship
-Golds Venice Beach Gym Invitational
-Bob versus Tom Prince versus Jerome Championship

natural al · « **Reply #64 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:58:29 AM »

what does it matter if it was a set up? Bob won, either way...it's all said and done, honestly why do you guys care so much? I don't even remember who came in 2nd, 3rd or 4th..it never even passes my mind...are you that hung up about a masters competition? I just don't get it. Even if it was a set up, who gives a shit?

jaejonna · « **Reply #65 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:00:54 AM »

Quote from: natural al on January 03, 2007, 09:58:29 AM

what does it matter if it was a set up? Bob won, either way...it's all said and done, honestly why do you guys care so much? I don't even remember who came in 2nd, 3rd or 4th..it never even passes my mind...are you that hung up about a masters competition? I just don't get it. Even if it was a set up, who gives a shit?

one word.....

RUSTY (bob hears that in his sleep)

natural al · « **Reply #66 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:03:40 AM »

Quote from: jaejonna on January 03, 2007, 10:00:54 AM

one word.....

RUSTY (bob hears that in his sleep)

who? oh, yeah....the guy that "won" the show...funny how nobody ever heard of him before the show and you haven't heard of him since, not to take anything away from him but I'd like to see some pics where he "beat" bob and the other guys who placed ahead of him.

onlyme · « **Reply #67 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:04:36 AM »

Quote from: SecondFocus on January 03, 2007, 08:10:37 AM

Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.

And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.

Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.

Thanks Bob's relative

natural al · « **Reply #68 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:07:40 AM »

what I was saying is there are tons of guys who are in great shape and don't win shows...it's just the way it goes. Did Ronnie Rockel get screwed at the last olympia? Sure he did but I don't see threads about that or about Labrada losing the 90 olympia, sometimes these things happen, you can't blame Bob cause he won a show, let's get a judge on here to explain why he won and until that happens it's kinda uselesss to even talk about, isn't it?

BayGBM · « **Reply #69 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:19:04 AM »

Quote from: natural al on January 03, 2007, 10:03:40 AM

who? oh, yeah....the guy that "won" the show...funny how nobody ever heard of him before the show and you haven't heard of him since, not to take anything away from him but I'd like to see some pics where he "beat" bob and the other guys who placed ahead of him.

Speak for yourself. Lots of people have heard of Rusty before. In fact, I’m sure more people have heard of him than Bob C.

Rusty’s contest history is here
http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=rusty+jeffers&g=M

There are no pix of Rusty and Bob side by side at the 2006 contest and that was not an accident. Remember the placings at the contest were as follows. I believe Rusty came in 8th.

1. Bob Cicherillo
2. Johnny Stewart
3. Pavol Jablonicky
4. Claude Groulx
5. Stan McCrary

Lift Studios · « **Reply #70 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:36:50 AM »

Ray Charles could see Rusty wasn't as conditioned as Bob.

natural al · « **Reply #71 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:39:25 AM »

Quote from: BayGBM on January 03, 2007, 10:19:04 AM

Speak for yourself. Lots of people have heard of Rusty before. In fact, I’m sure more people have heard of him than Bob C.

Rusty’s contest history is here
http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=rusty+jeffers&g=M

There are no pix of Rusty and Bob side by side at the 2006 contest and that was not an accident. Remember the placings at the contest were as follows. I believe Rusty came in 8th.

1. Bob Cicherillo
2. Johnny Stewart
3. Pavol Jablonicky
4. Claude Groulx
5. Stan McCrary

honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....

timfogarty · « **Reply #72 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:53:07 AM »

Quote from: natural al on January 03, 2007, 10:39:25 AM

honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....

because he's been Colt's top model for the last 10-15 years. Colt is a gay soft core porn magazine specializing in very muscular guys. Many of the top bodybuilders of the 1970s were in Colt in the 1980s, including Chris Dickerson, Jim Morris, Bob Birdsong and dozens of others.

Rusty Jeffers (google Carl Hardwick) has done nudes and solo j/o, but never anything with another. Rusty is straight, married, and has a teen age daughter.

Rusty got 8th because the judges were afraid of voting for such a gay icon. yet they have no problem with bodybuilders who receive FedEx packages containing $300k of GH and steroids.

Bob may have been the best bodybuilder on stage, but Rusty was his only real competition.

BayGBM · « **Reply #73 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:59:05 AM »

Quote from: natural al on January 03, 2007, 10:39:25 AM

honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....

You're out of the loop.

Quote from: timfogarty on January 03, 2007, 10:53:07 AM

because he's been Colt's top model for the last 10-15 years. Colt is a gay soft core porn magazine specializing in very muscular guys. Many of the top bodybuilders of the 1970s were in Colt in the 1980s, including Chris Dickerson, Jim Morris, Bob Birdsong and dozens of others.

Rusty Jeffers (google Carl Hardwick) has done nudes and solo j/o, but never anything with another. Rusty is straight, married, and has a teen age daughter.

Rusty got 8th because the judges were afraid of voting for such a gay icon. yet they have no problem with bodybuilders who receive FedEx packages containing $300k of GH and steroids.

You know too much.

The Luke · « **Reply #74 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:05:24 AM »

Maybe Bob could explain where he thinks Rusty should have placed?

I don't have any particularly homophobic feelings, got nothing against Jeffers. I also really enjoyed Bob's "War for the Worlds" watching it every week in the lead up to the show... I like Bob (great guy with a charasmatic personality), but as an impartial observer I noticed Rusty had Bob beat in each and every one of the mandatories.

Doesn't that warrant a comparison?

The Luke