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2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« on: January 03, 2007, 02:29:32 PM »
How many wars has obama started in the last 6 years? 

How many soldiers has obama gotten killed in the last 6 years?




Thanks in advance!

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 02:32:06 PM »
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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 03:00:45 PM »
How many wars has obama started in the last 6 years? 

How many soldiers has obama gotten killed in the last 6 years?




Thanks in advance!

The same number of people Saddam has tortured/inprisoned/mutilated/executed since he was caught.

The same number of people in the USA that Al Queda and the terrorist network has bombed/murdered/crashed airplanes into since we started stomping thier guts out world wide.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007, 05:26:36 PM »
How has the death rate in Iraq looked since we won that war? ;)  Sadaam kept better peace than you guys are, sorry, but its' true.  Less life was lost under sadaam.  Less innocents died.  Sorry again, but it's true.

You wish... Why don't you take some time to figure out how many INNOCENTS Saddam MURDERED since coming to power and than double that for what would've happened if we never went there.  And that's a conservative estimate.  It's a drastic change in a radical part of the world.  War ALWAYS gets worse before it gets better.

Hey, how many people in the USA were "bombed/murdered/crashed airplanes into" BEFORE a very shady GW Bush took office?

0.

Classic liberal.. blames the conservative prez. for acts committed by foreign terrorists.  Shame shame.


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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 05:37:34 PM »

DOUBLE THAT?  Sadaam killed one million in 22 years.  What evidence do you have that he would have killed ONE MILLION PEOPLE from 2003 to 2006?  (kinda a bold statement ya made there)

I was figuring leaving him in power for many years to come.  Get it?

Do you think it's easier for jihadists to kill Americans on US soil, or in the middle east?

You want them killing women and children over here for many many years or do you want our soldiers killing them (and being killed) over there?

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 05:37:57 PM »
What difference does it make how many people Saddam killed? 

How many people were being killed in Darfur in the last few years?

How many americans did he kill is a better question.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 05:39:47 PM »
Also  Saddam wasn;t going to do anything to jepordize hiw power that would include:

-  Harboring terrorist
-  Supporting terror
-  Harming US interests


He was under our thumb plain and simple and becuase of that Iraq was indirectly under our control in the above regards

Now we may just lose 400 billion for nothing and lose Iraq also.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 05:45:29 PM »
What difference does it make how many people Saddam killed? 

How many people were being killed in Darfur in the last few years?

How many americans did he kill is a better question.

To anyone that actually knows anything Darfur is a lost cause.

I'm sure glad Americans did something when Hitler was killing off a third of Europe.  We could've just said "well he's not killing americans!"

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2007, 05:46:34 PM »
Also  Saddam wasn;t going to do anything to jepordize hiw power that would include:

-  Harboring terrorist
-  Supporting terror
-  Harming US interests


Funny how he did all those and more.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 05:48:24 PM »
To anyone that actually knows anything Darfur is a lost cause.

I'm sure glad Americans did something when Hitler was killing off a third of Europe.  We could've just said "well he's not killing americans!"

Thank Japan for that.  Hitler and Saddam?  Are comparing the 2?  you are not are you?  Was Hitler invading 10 countries at once?  Did Saddam have a "world power" army?  com on dude.

Darfur a lost cause?  Are you camparing this to Iraq it's current lost cause?   ;)

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 05:50:48 PM »
Funny how he did all those and more.

reports befor ethe invasio had saddam not invovled in terrorist.

Think about it bulldog.............  in the fear based histeria of 2002-2003 would we really have needed to sight WMD's if there was any concrete evidence of terrist invovlement?  Of course not.  We would have wave the terrorist flag and never brought up WMD. 

But we didn;t because there wasn't a terrorist threat of harboring etc.. going on in any significant way in Iraq. 

Think!

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 05:53:53 PM »
Thank Japan for that.  Hitler and Saddam?  Are comparing the 2?  you are not are you?  Was Hitler invading 10 countries at once?  Did Saddam have a "world power" army?  com on dude.

Were you willing to wait until he built one?  Isolationism is ignorance.

Darfur a lost cause?  Are you camparing this to Iraq it's current lost cause?   ;)

Nope.


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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007, 05:56:39 PM »
reports befor ethe invasio had saddam not invovled in terrorist.

Satellite photos had been watching terrorist camps for years.  Of course our capabilities were classified making it really hard for that to be a reason to go.

Think about it bulldog.............  in the fear based histeria of 2002-2003 would we really have needed to sight WMD's if there was any concrete evidence of terrist invovlement?  Of course not.  We would have wave the terrorist flag and never brought up WMD. 

If we weren't concerned about Nat'l security.... then we could've used that.  Of course he DID have WMD's and he DID use them.  You have no arguement.


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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2007, 05:58:31 PM »
Were you willing to wait until he built one?  Isolationism is ignorance.

Well then what about N. Korea and Iran?  We've already just let them build nukes!

Not a good point to argue becuase Saddam didn;t have the capability,  but the 2 countries who do we've nothing and we are committed in Iraq.  Monster brilliance by the conservative admin.

Are you suggesting Saddam was more of a threat the wacked out leaders of N- Korea and Iran?  I'm sure you are not.   being they have nukes now.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2007, 05:59:29 PM »
How has the death rate in Iraq looked since we won that war? ;)  Sadaam kept better peace than you guys are, sorry, but its' true.  Less life was lost under sadaam.  Less innocents died.  Sorry again, but it's true.

Hey, how many people in the USA were "bombed/murdered/crashed airplanes into" BEFORE a very shady GW Bush took office?

0.
less life was lost under saddam? either you know your full of shit or you are misguided. saddam murderd between 750,000 and 1 million people.. you ignorent fool

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2007, 06:02:41 PM »

Satellite photos had been watching terrorist camps for years.  Of course our capabilities were classified making it really hard for that to be a reason to go.

our satellite capabilities have been common knowlege for years. So showing photos of camps wouldn't have been any big deal.  All they would have had to do was show the public a few pics and off to war we all would havbe gladly gone.  But they instead had to amke up a story about WMD's becuase there was no Threat. 

What isn;t common knowledge is that we can measure how much gasoliine is in a gas tank of a car from UAV's. 


So were are the WMD's?  Why isn't the proof been waved in our faces?  The Conservatives would have not lost the election if they could have justified the war.

Well?

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2007, 06:38:21 PM »
Well then what about N. Korea and Iran?  We've already just let them build nukes!

Not a good point to argue becuase Saddam didn;t have the capability,  but the 2 countries who do we've nothing and we are committed in Iraq.  Monster brilliance by the conservative admin.

Are you suggesting Saddam was more of a threat the wacked out leaders of N- Korea and Iran?  I'm sure you are not.   being they have nukes now.

When countries enter the nuclear arena diplomacy is almost the only option.  Look at the consequences.

We could afford to go after saddam militarily but no western nation will push for that and risk nuclear war.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2007, 06:43:19 PM »
Well then what about N. Korea and Iran?  We've already just let them build nukes!

Not a good point to argue becuase Saddam didn;t have the capability,  but the 2 countries who do we've nothing and we are committed in Iraq.  Monster brilliance by the conservative admin.

Are you suggesting Saddam was more of a threat the wacked out leaders of N- Korea and Iran?  I'm sure you are not.   being they have nukes now.

How about the fact Saddam had billions in cash that he stole from his people?  We found a billion in cash in one of his palaces.  I am certain that kind of cash was not being used for legitimate reasons.  No telling who he was bankrolling.  I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that money was used to support terrorists.  We know he was giving financial rewards to the families of suicide bombers in Israel. 

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2007, 06:45:27 PM »
our satellite capabilities have been common knowlege for years. So showing photos of camps wouldn't have been any big deal.  All they would have had to do was show the public a few pics and off to war we all would havbe gladly gone.  But they instead had to amke up a story about WMD's becuase there was no Threat. 

Our the terrorists might be gone before we got there.  Strategically speaking it would have been wrong to devulge our capabilities.  Yeah everyone knows we can take pictures but what no one else needed to know is what exactly we were taking pictures of.  Of course no one acknowledges that Iraq was harboring them.  That would be disasterous for your argument.

What isn;t common knowledge is that we can measure how much gasoliine is in a gas tank of a car from UAV's. 


So were are the WMD's?  Why isn't the proof been waved in our faces?  The Conservatives would have not lost the election if they could have justified the war.

Media BURIES that information.  It WAS known and it WAS shown.  We found him with loads of VX gas.  And, once again, the WMD's we watched go "other" places right before our invasion isn't something our gov't wants to acknowledge openly.  The things you see from my side are a little difference when you have accessto privalidged information.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2007, 06:47:17 PM »
Whenever anyone compares Saddam to Hitler it is absolutely mind-boggling.  it's like they have no clue what hitler did.  I am speechless.

As it applies here the argument makes perfect sense.  Innocents being murdered/tortures in large numbers... act or don't act.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2007, 09:04:49 PM »
Well then what about N. Korea and Iran?  We've already just let them build nukes!

Not a good point to argue becuase Saddam didn;t have the capability,  but the 2 countries who do we've nothing and we are committed in Iraq.  Monster brilliance by the conservative admin.

Are you suggesting Saddam was more of a threat the wacked out leaders of N- Korea and Iran?  I'm sure you are not.   being they have nukes now.


Anyone who gets a nuke is because secretely we allowed it and wanted it to happen...As soon as they use one of their nukes any where in the world, they will be wiped off the map...

In the eyes of our government why wouldn't they want them to have one?...Even if Iran set off a moble nuke in grand central station, in  the whole scheme of things, does it really doesn't matter?...We would have total control of the middle east...This government would probably drop a few in Iraq also...They are already telling us the Iran controls Iraq...

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2007, 11:44:45 PM »
You see no difference between Hitler invading soverign nations, and Sadaam killing people inside his own borders?


This whole international law thing - they don't teach that in boot camp?

Of course there is a difference, don't ask stupid questions.  What we DO about it is the same.

Didn't Saddam invade a soveirgn nation?  Oh yeah and we didn't finish the job the first time.  Glad we did this time.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 12:19:25 AM »
Of course there is a difference, don't ask stupid questions.  What we DO about it is the same.

Didn't Saddam invade a soveirgn nation?  Oh yeah and we didn't finish the job the first time.  Glad we did this time.

Don't try and confuse people with the facts.  Yes Saddam invaded a sovereign nation and was about to invade a second before we stopped him. 

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 06:32:57 AM »
you're referring to 1991, and that was resolved with sanctions.

This was a new war for new reasons.

Resolved with sanctions... ah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!@!!!!!!!

oh jeez


Hey, maybe we should go an invade england for f'king up DC in 1812... whatddya think?

Sure ... I dub you in charge of making up rediculus nonsense and inventing a conspiracy.

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Re: 2 quick questions about Barrak Obama
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2007, 06:37:52 AM »
brix - are you now saying that Bush2 invaded Iraq not for any of the reasons we were told, but now, it was to finish 1991?

Make up your mind :)

All of the above... we let saddam off and he just gave us more reasons.