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vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« on: January 03, 2007, 06:34:04 PM »
what are your guys' opinions on these supps?  Are they worthwhile?

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 06:36:38 PM »
Vitamin C is always a good idea.  ;D

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 06:37:39 PM »
On a serious note I only take vitamin E on training days (4-5 times a week). I've read it helps with muscle soreness.

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007, 06:38:18 PM »
do you think they're necessary in addition to a multivitamin?

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 06:49:34 PM »
do you think they're necessary in addition to a multivitamin?

I don't think vitamin E is but there's nothing wrong with an extra 500-1000mg of vitamin C a day (split up the dose if possible).

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 08:36:02 PM »
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 10:20:45 PM »
I take all of these twice daily.  I believe that your body can't absorb all of that stuff at once - so you need to take it more often and pass the extra (unfortunately).
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 10:08:09 AM »
I take all three.  I take vitamin C multiple times per day.  I take 6-9 grams of fish oil per day in 3g installments.

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 12:44:19 PM »
I take all three.  I take vitamin C multiple times per day.  I take 6-9 grams of fish oil per day in 3g installments.

if ya check the link..above and buy the FAT soluble kind..you dont have 2..  ;)
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 01:30:21 PM »
if ya check the link..above and buy the FAT soluble kind..you dont have 2..  ;)

I checked the link.  Interesting.

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 01:49:41 PM »
Vitamin C is always a good idea.  ;D
very. Keeps me from getting sick....i think.
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 05:20:26 PM »
I checked the link.  Interesting.

far soluable vitamin > water soluble..
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 06:01:21 PM »
far soluable vitamin > water soluble..

how so?

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 06:12:16 PM »
how so?


you piss out the water soluable kind..

the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2007, 06:16:58 PM »

you piss out the water soluable kind..

the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..

yeah, but don't you only piss out what you don't need...

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2007, 06:33:48 PM »
yeah, but don't you only piss out what you don't need...

with fat soluable..what ya dont need has a greater chance of ending up in your fat cells..

costs about the same..
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2007, 06:45:22 PM »
with fat soluable..what ya dont need has a greater chance of ending up in your fat cells..

costs about the same..


do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?

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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2007, 07:50:16 PM »

do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?

does vitamin D and E thats stored in fat cells do any good?
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2007, 08:11:58 PM »

do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?

Excellent question!



the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..

Sounds good in theroy, but in (human) reality it falls short.


Ascorbyl palmitate: Ascorbyl palmitate is a fat-soluble antioxidant sometimes used to increase the shelf life of vegetable oils and potato chips. It is an amphipathic molecule, meaning one end is water-soluble and the other end is fat-soluble. This dual solubility allows it to be incorporated into cell membranes. When incorporated into the cell membranes of human red blood cells, ascorbyl palmitate has been found to protect them from oxidative damage and to protect vitamin E (a fat-soluble antioxidant) from oxidation by free radicals. However, the protective effects of ascorbyl palmitate on cell membranes have only been demonstrated in the test tube. Taking ascorbyl palmitate orally probably doesn’t result in any significant incorporation into cell membranes because most of it appears to be hydrolyzed (broken apart into palmitate and ascorbic acid) in the human digestive tract before it is absorbed. The ascorbic acid released by the hydrolysis of ascorbyl palmitate appears to be as bioavailable as ascorbic acid alone. The presence of ascorbyl palmitate in oral supplements contributes to the ascorbic acid content of the supplement and probably helps protect lipid-soluble antioxidants during storage. The role of vitamin C in promoting collagen synthesis and its antioxidant properties have generated interest in its use on the skin. Ascorbyl palmitate is frequently used in topical preparations because it is more stable than some aqueous (water-soluble) forms of vitamin C.
http://lpi.or
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2007, 08:14:20 PM »
  Are they worthwhile?

Absolutely!

400-800 IU vitamin E - Natural - mixxed tocopherols
(also helps fish oil absorption better than synthetic too)
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2007, 08:20:23 PM »

Excellent question!


Sounds good in theroy, but in (human) reality it falls short.


Ascorbyl palmitate: Ascorbyl palmitate is a fat-soluble antioxidant sometimes used to increase the shelf life of vegetable oils and potato chips. It is an amphipathic molecule, meaning one end is water-soluble and the other end is fat-soluble. This dual solubility allows it to be incorporated into cell membranes. When incorporated into the cell membranes of human red blood cells, ascorbyl palmitate has been found to protect them from oxidative damage and to protect vitamin E (a fat-soluble antioxidant) from oxidation by free radicals. However, the protective effects of ascorbyl palmitate on cell membranes have only been demonstrated in the test tube. Taking ascorbyl palmitate orally probably doesn’t result in any significant incorporation into cell membranes because most of it appears to be hydrolyzed (broken apart into palmitate and ascorbic acid) in the human digestive tract before it is absorbed. The ascorbic acid released by the hydrolysis of ascorbyl palmitate appears to be as bioavailable as ascorbic acid alone. The presence of ascorbyl palmitate in oral supplements contributes to the ascorbic acid content of the supplement and probably helps protect lipid-soluble antioxidants during storage. The role of vitamin C in promoting collagen synthesis and its antioxidant properties have generated interest in its use on the skin. Ascorbyl palmitate is frequently used in topical preparations because it is more stable than some aqueous (water-soluble) forms of vitamin C.
http://lpi.or
egonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html

good point..

but taking over 1000mgsd of ascorbic acid in a day will cause the hershy squirts


palmitate dosen't do the same..personal experience..
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2007, 08:22:57 PM »
good point..

but taking over 1000mgsd of ascorbic acid in a day will cause the hershy squirts


palmitate dosen't do the same..personal experience..

You got issues  ;)
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 08:41:27 PM »

You got issues  ;)


lol they do princess..google it..

and of course i have issues..we established that wayyy long ago!  :D
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 08:50:12 PM »
lol they do princess..google it..

and of course i have issues..we established that wayyy long ago!  :D

I must have a cast iron plumbing system.  Nothing does that to me - not even cheap protein.
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Re: vitamin c/vitamin e/fish oil
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2007, 09:08:49 PM »
I must have a cast iron plumbing system.  Nothing does that to me - not even cheap protein.

more than 500 mgs of ascorbic acid..and i'm done for 4 the day...
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