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An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« on: January 06, 2007, 04:18:12 AM »
Here is a clip from the 2006 Colorado Pro.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5830485586257073449&q=Phil+Heath&hl=en

With that, this is the first video footage I have seen of Phil and here are some comments I have regarding his physique below...  Keep in mind, I'm a huge fan of his BUT I now see many holes in his physique.

From the front in the relaxed pose Phil looks below average.  His quads and calves overpower his upperbody.
Phil's chest is underdeveloped and he needs much more size on his delts to give him the illusion of width, because there will not be much he can do with somewhat narrow clavicals by pro bodybuilding standards.
See "Exibit1".
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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 04:25:08 AM »
Continuing on, Phil has an excellent front double biceps pose in which there are virtually no weaknesses, you can say the same for his front lat spread. I would say that he can add little more size to his arms for perfection.  See "Exibit2" and "Exibit3".



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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 04:31:27 AM »
Here is "Exibit3"

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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 04:37:35 AM »
Phil displays exceptional separation between the quads and hamstrings in the side chest pose.
But once again you can see that the lack of development in his chest keeps him from being "great" in this pose.  See "Exibit4"
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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2007, 04:41:40 AM »
Phil displays exceptional separation between the quads and hamstrings in the side chest pose.
But once again you can see that the lack of development in his chest keeps him from being "great" in this pose.  See "Exibit4"
from the side he looks bigger than he does in the front poses
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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 04:42:28 AM »
If I am not mistaken that is from the NY pro, I personally thought that Darrem was a tad better than him.
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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 04:45:26 AM »
Phil has one of the best back double biceps in the game today.
He displays tremendous separation, and his glutes and hamstrings are shredded.
But he will be going up against "A" listers from here on out and guys like Jay, Victor, Dexter, and Gustavo have the same attributes from the back plus one that Phil doesn't have yet and that's back thickness.  His back lat spread is good but he needs more overall back thickness to take it to the next level.  See "Exibit5" and "Exibit6".
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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 04:48:40 AM »
from the side he looks bigger than he does in the front poses

You are 100% correct Shadow which is why he will be exposed during the Arnold.  I don't think many of these "shortcomings" will be corrected in one year.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 04:53:38 AM »
Small and high lat. No future.

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Re: Phil Heath clip
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 04:54:03 AM »
You are 100% correct Shadow which is why he will be exposed during the Arnold.  I don't think many of these "shortcomings" will be corrected in one year.

even if he uses Gakic?
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 04:55:08 AM »
Exibit 6
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 04:57:54 AM »
Small and high lat. No future.

Actually his lats are not high.  Dennis Wolfe and Dexter have high lats.
While Phil doesn't possess low lat insertions like a Ronnie or Dorian, there is nothing bad about them.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 04:58:51 AM »
He's a year or two of mass building to be a top contender, for now I think the "newness" of him has worn off and his placing will suffer a bit.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2007, 05:02:34 AM »
I can't think of too many people who have a better side triceps pose than Phil Heath see "Exibit7" nuff said....

Methyl Mike, I think unless he hasn't made dramtic improvements, you are correct.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2007, 05:05:28 AM »
I can't think to too many people who have a better side tricep pose than Phil Heath see "Exibit7" nuff said....

Methyl Mike, I think unless he hasn't made dramtic improvements, you are correct.
dude after his 2 pro wins he took the rest of the year off..i think so he migh have corrected or some what improved upon his faults
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2007, 05:06:49 AM »
He has a decent abs and thighs pose.  See "Exibit8"
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2007, 05:16:01 AM »
Phil is rare in that he looks great in all his most muscular poses. See Exibits 9, 10, and 11.
In the first one he resembles Ronnie, the second one Flex and the third one Dexter.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2007, 05:18:46 AM »
Small and high lat. No future.

bullshit..if the guy can add mass to the right places and not go overboard, he will do well.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2007, 05:19:09 AM »
Phil Heath in about a year or 2 is unquestionably going to win the olympia if he can stay proportioned but with a little more size.  He needs another 20-30 pounds of muscle more.  

And of course with some Gakic and Phosphogen, as well as NOx209 and a crash MandF workout, he can pack on an incredible 20pds of muscle while lowering bodyfat levels by a stunning 10% in an incredible 2 months!  LOL..
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2007, 05:23:47 AM »
Phil Heath in about a year or 2 is unquestionably going to win the olympia if he can stay proportioned but with a little more size.  He needs another 20-30 pounds of muscle more.  

And of course with some Gakic and Phosphogen, as well as NOx209 and a crash MandF workout, he can pack on an incredible 20pds of muscle while lowering bodyfat levels by a stunning 10% in an incredible 2 months!  LOL..
are you smokin some crack..20-30 of muscle...he only needs to add 10-15lbs of muscle..he will blow his waist up if he adds 20-30lbs on that frame
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2007, 05:24:53 AM »
Phil Heath in about a year or 2 is unquestionably going to win the olympia if he can stay proportioned but with a little more size.  He needs another 20-30 pounds of muscle more.  

And of course with some Gakic and Phosphogen, as well as NOx209 and a crash MandF workout, he can pack on an incredible 20pds of muscle while lowering bodyfat levels by a stunning 10% in an incredible 2 months!  LOL..


hmm..im not sure about 30lbs...but with some added mass he will do well..but i dont think he needs 30lbs of mass

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2007, 05:25:29 AM »
are you smokin some crack..20-30 of muscle...he only needs to add 10-15lbs of muscle..he will blow his waist up if he adds 20-30lbs on that frame

shadow is correct

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2007, 05:33:54 AM »
Actually his lats are not high.  Dennis Wolfe and Dexter have high lats.
While Phil doesn't possess low lat insertions like a Ronnie or Dorian, there is nothing bad about them.
MMmm strange, i have just seen the video and looked like high lat. But in these pics, he doesnt.
As you say, Dex do have high lat but dennis wolf dont.Dennis is just not still mature.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2007, 05:52:33 AM »
MMmm strange, i have just seen the video and looked like high lat. But in these pics, he doesnt.
As you say, Dex do have high lat but dennis wolf dont.Dennis is just not still mature.

phil has been competing for a shorter period then dennis fucktard.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2007, 06:04:56 AM »
great unbiased analysis !! We don't see that much often on  bodybuilding board !

I say yes, from those pictures Phil needs more muscle but he had more than enough time to gain a good 5-7 pounds of pure muscle this year, wich will make an incredible difference is he gained it in the right places.l

yes he looks pretty average in the relaxed poses, that's his biggest weakness.
but in the other poses, he looks 20 pounds heavier than he actually his !
in the double biceps poses, he looks simply perfect and in the most musculars, he looks unbelievable !

I say: HEATH FOR THE TOP 3 AT THE ARNOLD !!!!!!!!

NOTHING STOPS THE HEATH !!!