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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2007, 06:06:50 AM »
only winter

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2007, 06:10:55 AM »
only winter

no winter this year  8)

10 degree Celsius here in Montreal ! I am starting to love winter haha
I think it snowed once or twice this year  ;D

so the winter won't stop the Heath too !!!

Nothing stops the Heath !!!

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2007, 06:16:47 AM »
no winter this year  8)

10 degree Celsius here in Montreal ! I am starting to love winter haha
I think it snowed once or twice this year  ;D

so the winter won't stop the Heath too !!!

Nothing stops the Heath !!!
hahahahah..well said
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2007, 06:21:13 AM »
no winter this year  8)

10 degree Celsius here in Montreal ! I am starting to love winter haha
I think it snowed once or twice this year  ;D

so the winter won't stop the Heath too !!!

Nothing stops the Heath !!!


 ;D  i  fucking hate winter

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2007, 06:34:35 AM »
are you smokin some crack..20-30 of muscle...he only needs to add 10-15lbs of muscle..he will blow his waist up if he adds 20-30lbs on that frame

20 to 30...  He's well behind Jay.  Didn't you see the pictures in the Magazine of them workin out together?
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2007, 06:34:50 AM »
Phil looks great. He'll quality for the Olympia easily, but he won't break top 5 there this year. He needs a better chest and back. Give him a few years to get bigger and he'll be in the top 5 if all stays the same.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2007, 06:36:01 AM »
20 to 30...  He's well behind Jay.  Didn't you see the pictures in the Magazine of them workin out together?

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2007, 06:55:46 AM »
20 to 30...  He's well behind Jay.  Didn't you see the pictures in the Magazine of them workin out together?
dude phil is on the aesthetic side of bodybuilding..he is like modern days flex wheeler..20-30lbs will ruin his shape.he ain't no mass monster and never gonna be one..all he needs to is add 10-15 in the next 2 or 3 yrs..he'll be mr olympia
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2007, 07:08:17 AM »
Phil looks great. He'll quality for the Olympia easily, but he won't break top 5 there this year. He needs a better chest and back. Give him a few years to get bigger and he'll be in the top 5 if all stays the same.
Care to put your money where you mouth is on that?

Heath's DVD in it's final touches and you'll see his training.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2007, 07:22:54 AM »
Care to put your money where you mouth is on that?

Heath's DVD in it's final touches and you'll see his training.



Lift, is there a release date?
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2007, 07:26:25 AM »
Lift, is there a release date?
Looking like the end of this month, we're waiting on some footage from the Colorado Pro to integrate.

The fans will decide which DVD cover goes to production - look for it this weekend.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2007, 07:27:34 AM »
Looking like the end of this month, we're waiting on some footage from the Colorado Pro to integrate.

The fans will decide which DVD cover goes to production - look for it this weekend.


do you have any info on ronnies dvd?
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2007, 07:34:55 AM »
do you have any info on ronnies dvd?
No. Not sure who did Ronnie's DVD.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2007, 07:53:21 AM »
as with ray and a 93 wheeler has a bigger than he really is type physique,at 215 his muscle pop's and is full,has great conditioning and at least he has leg's so that is not a big priority like some pro's playing catchup on leg's is tougher,than refining say some more chest .he will be a player in the grand scheme,give credit when credit is due.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2007, 07:58:48 AM »
Heath's arms are already pretty loaded. I don't see where he needs to bring them up. If anything, maybe his chest. But he's got a nice flow to everything now. As for as putting on 20-30 lbs. I thought Melvin would throw it away if he went for more muscle and he did and he looks better than ever.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2007, 09:49:50 AM »
Heath's arms are already pretty loaded. I don't see where he needs to bring them up. If anything, maybe his chest. But he's got a nice flow to everything now. As for as putting on 20-30 lbs. I thought Melvin would throw it away if he went for more muscle and he did and he looks better than ever.

Actually if you look at Melvin from this past Mr. O, you can see his waist line is bigger than say......before he started working with "The Chad". On the plus side is that Chad brought him in better condition and bigger, I guess you have to sacrifice something.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2007, 09:59:31 AM »
Phil is on time for where he is at his age and where he is trying to be in the future.
The Future is not now, he knows it and will pace himself accordingly.
He is trying to improve slowly, let his muscle maturity run it's course by doing so, in 3 to 4 years he will be sitting pretty provided he does not get caught up with the almighty Scale, which has ruined it's share of potential great athletes.
Size is not going to be his problem down the road, Balance will become more important when you get right down to it.
He needs to focus on his weaknesses, sans the extra mass and the rest will take care of it's self.
Circa 1993 Flex Wheeler at the ASC never looked better and he was 216-218lbs at 5'10. His conditioning was sick and separation was rivaled by none!
This will be Heath's Ace in the Hole, as the majority of Pro's on the circuit today, sacrifice Conditioning for Mass.
This will separate him from the pack "Conditioning" and the cream will rise to the top.
Phil is handling his business at a young age being compared to guys with 5 to 10 yrs of more training is not really fair but he is ahead of most of them at this point of his career with time on his side.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2007, 10:01:02 AM »
Heath's arms are already pretty loaded. I don't see where he needs to bring them up. If anything, maybe his chest. But he's got a nice flow to everything now. As for as putting on 20-30 lbs. I thought Melvin would throw it away if he went for more muscle and he did and he looks better than ever.
problem is that his arms kind of overshadow everything else on him right now, awesome bb'er though.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2007, 10:04:46 AM »
Heath's arms are already pretty loaded. I don't see where he needs to bring them up. If anything, maybe his chest. But he's got a nice flow to everything now. As for as putting on 20-30 lbs. I thought Melvin would throw it away if he went for more muscle and he did and he looks better than ever.
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2007, 10:05:08 AM »
problem is that his arms kind of overshadow everything else on him right now, awesome bb'er though.

lets see what he does against the big boys..no way his perfect record stays intact
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2007, 10:07:03 AM »
lets see what he does against the big boys..no way his perfect record stays intact
he can beat guys like Alves, JOJ, even some of the best second tier guys like DJ and Markus, but against Jay, Ronnie, Dex, Gustavo, Victor, Gunter we'll just have to see.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2007, 10:09:34 AM »
he can beat guys like Alves, JOJ, even some of the best second tier guys like DJ and Markus, but against Jay, Ronnie, Dex, Gustavo, Victor, Gunter we'll just have to see.

Gustavo is second tier me...you think Heath can beat Rule if Markus comes in 100%?
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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2007, 10:11:41 AM »
Gustavo is second tier me...you think Heath can beat Rule if Markus comes in 100%?
Gustavo has proven that he's a first tier guy IMO, and i'm not saying that he SHOULD beat Markus but i'm saying that the judges will be blinded by Phil's "shape" over Ruhl's mind blowing size and condition.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2007, 10:36:22 AM »
First off, props to Big_Wiggs for a well written and clearly thought out thread. It's obvious you put a lot of work into it.

I'm very impressed by Phil Heath. Despite his narrow clavicles and lighter weight, his muscles expand tremendously when he poses and his true talent shines through. In the side tricep pose, for instance, his arm seems impossibly thick, as do his hamstrings. It's wondrous how he can look like a narrow shouldered boy standing in the front relaxed pose and yet seem mound of muscle upon muscle in his hands together all muscular pose.

As for his future, he needs about 10-15 pounds of quality muscle, especially on his back. There's really no rush to do so because he is VERY competitive as he is (or was many months ago). It will be exciting to see how much he has improved since the NY Pro come March 3rd at the Arnold Classic.

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Re: An analysis of Phil Heath's physique and a Phil Heath clip
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2007, 10:44:24 AM »

I agree with Shawn - Phil needs to pace himself, and decide strategically what is the best career moves for him. There is so much pressure on Phil for this year, everyone expects him to be the best, to become an overnight sensation now that he is competing in the his major pro bodybuilding show with some of the top ten in the world.

For some, placing in the top 6 of the Arnold Classic is great. For Phil Health, the top three is quite easily attainable. But to win the Arnold Classic... well... he has to go through Victor Martinez and Dexter Jackson, and they have a lot of say about this rookie sensation if he thinks he will win the Arnold.

However, I have to say that Phil is quite humble, friendly and realistic in his quest for rankings at the Arnold. Phil has learned is PR business well from his days as a basketball player.