Author Topic: why is VICTOR MARTINEZ so hyped up this year? (Read 5134 times)

the shadow · « **on:** January 06, 2007, 06:58:41 AM »

last year all over the mags we had everybody on the phil heath bad wagon and now this year everybody is on victor martinez band wagon..i know vic is good but is he that good?..i mean in every other forum they have vic at no.1..what about gustavo,ruhl,toney?

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:02:46 AM »

victor could have been even better but instead he added to much mass...and got a thick waist. but his back is sick if you seen pics from muscletime. he had great future (he can still do damage) but i think he (partly) fucked up his physique...

Lift Studios · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:03:36 AM »

HEATH HEATH HEATH

Vic is geat but as unpredictable as Titus on meth when it comes to showing up in shape.

the shadow · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:05:10 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on January 06, 2007, 07:02:46 AM

victor could have been even better but instead he added to much mass...and got a thick waist. but his back is sick if you seen pics from muscletime. he had great future (he can still do damage) but i think he fucked up his physique...

correct..but i think if he shows up few pounds less than he usually shows he could do alot of damage this year

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:06:41 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 06, 2007, 07:05:10 AM

correct..but i think if he shows up few pounds less than he usually shows he could do alot of damage this year

he has better structure than most guys on IFBB circuit...but he has to come in ripped shape...but i think it will be hard for him to reduce his waist.

the shadow · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:09:14 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on January 06, 2007, 07:06:41 AM

he has better structure than most guys on IFBB circuit...but he has to come in ripped shape...but i think it will be hard for him to reduce his waist.

his case is very similar to heaths..heath needs to gain a few pounds and vic needs to loose a few pounds

bounce72 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2007, 08:12:47 AM »

Well oddly enough, for those that feel Victor's physique is so-so and he's unpredictable lets look at his recent track record. 5th at the 05 Olympia, 3rd at the 06 ASC, and 3rd at the Olympia. Since he's teamed up with Chad i think his track record speaks for itself! I seriously await to see the ASC line up with Dex, Phil, and Vic battling for the top spot. Plus, the placings are based on the actual physiques they bring that day, not the reputation or what they've done in the past.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2007, 08:20:34 AM »

Quote from: bounce72 on January 06, 2007, 08:12:47 AM

Well oddly enough, for those that feel Victor's physique is so-so and he's unpredictable lets look at his recent track record. 5th at the 05 Olympia, 3rd at the 06 ASC, and 3rd at the Olympia. Since he's teamed up with Chad i think his track record speaks for itself! I seriously await to see the ASC line up with Dex, Phil, and Vic battling for the top spot. Plus, the placings are based on the actual physiques they bring that day, not the reputation or what they've done in the past.

dont get me wrong victor is good but after adding too much weight his waist got to big..he could have been better if he had added less mass more slowly

carvedoutofwood · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2007, 08:59:11 AM »

Quote from: bounce72 on January 06, 2007, 08:12:47 AM

Well oddly enough, for those that feel Victor's physique is so-so and he's unpredictable lets look at his recent track record. 5th at the 05 Olympia, 3rd at the 06 ASC, and 3rd at the Olympia. Since he's teamed up with Chad i think his track record speaks for itself! I seriously await to see the ASC line up with Dex, Phil, and Vic battling for the top spot. Plus, the placings are based on the actual physiques they bring that day, not the reputation or what they've done in the past.

if victor comes to the ASC in the same shape he did last year he WONT be top 4.... which although great for the average pro would be a huge disapointment for victor...

Big N · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:03:42 AM »

Victor Martinez still has hope and he works hard

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:04:00 AM »

Heath will conquer.

KTMckay · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:12:54 AM »

He's underrated. If we see him dry as a bone and full best ever it will be an amazing sight to see.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:15:39 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 06, 2007, 06:58:41 AM

last year all over the mags we had everybody on the phil heath bad wagon and now this year everybody is on victor martinez band wagon..i know vic is good but is he that good?..i mean in every other forum they have vic at no.1..what about gustavo,ruhl,toney?

Maybe because he looked better than Gutler and Ronnie at the O?

Lift Studios · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:36:52 AM »

Quote from: bounce72 on January 06, 2007, 08:12:47 AM

Well oddly enough, for those that feel Victor's physique is so-so and he's unpredictable lets look at his recent track record. 5th at the 05 Olympia, 3rd at the 06 ASC, and 3rd at the Olympia. Since he's teamed up with Chad i think his track record speaks for itself! I seriously await to see the ASC line up with Dex, Phil, and Vic battling for the top spot. Plus, the placings are based on the actual physiques they bring that day, not the reputation or what they've done in the past.

Vic's physique is not "so-so", it's sic and one of the best there is. The issue isn't his physique, it's the question of it's conditioning. Two things Dexter and Phil have that Vic doesn't is consistency. They're conditioned when they step on stage each and every time. Victor is capable as he showed early on at this yea's O, but can he do it again? That's the question.

Let's look at the consistency of placings:

Victor

2004
Olympia - IFBB, 9th
Show of Strength Pro Championship - IFBB, Winner

2005
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 7th
New York Pro Championships - IFBB, 3rd
Olympia - IFBB, 5th
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th

2006
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
Olympia - IFBB, 3rd

Dexter

2004
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, Winner
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 4th
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner

2005
Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd

2006
Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 4th

Phil
2004
Colorado State - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
Colorado State - NPC, Overall Winner

2005
Junior Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
Junior Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
USA Championships - NPC, Overall Winner

2006
Colorado Pro Championships - IFBB, Winner
New York Pro Championships - IFBB, Winner

Yes, well aware Heath's are NPC and not IFBB for the same year but has proven himself every step of the way. Dexter is Mr. Condition and it'll be between him and Phil.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2007, 09:41:59 AM »

Barring any sudden inprisonment for stealing car radios in spanish harlem Vic should do OK this year.

bigmikecox · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2007, 10:04:13 AM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on January 06, 2007, 07:03:36 AM

HEATH HEATH HEATH

Vic is geat but as unpredictable as Titus on meth when it comes to showing up in shape.

If Vic is working with Chad again, he is going to come in on time.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2007, 10:06:41 AM »

Quote from: bigmikecox on January 06, 2007, 10:04:13 AM

If Vic is working with Chad again, he is going to come in on time.

you mean the same Chad that fucked over Ronnie?

Parker · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2007, 10:17:08 AM »

Vic looked unbelieable at the NOC that he won, then he f it all up with added mass. His Ab-thighpose is sickening

bigmikecox · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2007, 10:22:22 AM »

If Victor is in shape he will win. He has no weak bodyparts. He is bigger than Dex and Heath.

Lift Studios · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2007, 10:47:15 AM »

Quote from: bigmikecox on January 06, 2007, 10:22:22 AM

If Victor is in shape he will win. He has no weak bodyparts. He is bigger than Dex and Heath.

Again "IF" - that is what everyone keeps talking about "IF". We know Heath and Jackson will.

It's a big "IF"

Chick · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2007, 11:21:37 AM »

If... IF'S and BUTS were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas...!

kiwiol · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2007, 11:32:14 AM »

Vic needs to focus and train reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eal hard and heavy like Ronnie does. If he gets Ronnie's or Yates' work ethic, there is no one at the moment who could beat him in a couple of years. He need to get to work especially on the Squat rack.

rs3000 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2007, 11:34:43 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 06, 2007, 11:21:37 AM

If... IF'S and BUTS were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas...!

Haha... that wasn't bad... where do you get this stuff?

"Where is that from... the 80's?!?"

"No more like the 70's"

MRMD2003 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2007, 12:26:52 PM »

vic is probably the only bb other then ronnie, that has a shot at beating Jay

Blockhead · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2007, 12:53:36 PM »

Yes but like what Father kiwiol said...he has to develop a work ethic comparable to a Ronnie or Yates...even a Jay.

Notice that with Jay, Ronnie and Yates...know what they have in common? They stay away from 'the scene' and focus strictly on their job...which is bodybuilding.

Haney as well.

Victor is great but he is very very much involved with the whole Bodybuilding living like a rock star 'scene' on the mean streets of New York.

He needs to isolate himself from the outside world...then he can do it.

Author Topic: why is VICTOR MARTINEZ so hyped up this year? (Read 5134 times)

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