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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #75 on: January 07, 2007, 01:23:10 PM »
Even if global warming were true, according to you, at this point what would we be able to do about it...absolutely nothing...so stop worrying...

there is PLENTY that can be done, ...however it MUST start NOW!!!

For starters:
  • We can start using energy more responsibly
  • We can make sure our vehicles are running efficiently and not contributing to global pollution
  • We can cut our dependency on fossil fuel
  • we can stop wasting water. etc., etc., etc.
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #76 on: January 07, 2007, 01:24:50 PM »
we can stop buying SUVS and TRUCKS..

we can improve emission standards (one of the LOWEST on this planet)
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #77 on: January 07, 2007, 01:38:20 PM »
I've heard one scientist is proposing that we release sulfer into the atmosphere to increase the earth's albedo.

That's not likely to happen soon. Infact, they just mandated the lowering of sulphur within diesel fuel.
It's a nightmare for truckers because the new low sulphur fuels reduces their mileage even more.
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2007, 02:39:38 PM »
we can stop buying SUVS and TRUCKS..

we can improve emission standards (one of the LOWEST on this planet)

Screw that, I'm trading in my Durango for an F-550!!

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2007, 02:40:28 PM »
Screw that, I'm trading in my Durango for an F-550!!



we make concessions for the handicapped...

its ok..you r a republican!  ;D
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #80 on: January 07, 2007, 02:47:18 PM »
This is Necessary for everyday living.




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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2007, 02:52:36 PM »
This is Necessary for everyday living.





when i ws in northern pakistan long time ago..the dumbfucks carring machine guns around used to say the same damn thing!  :)
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2007, 02:58:26 PM »
This is Necessary for everyday living.





EXACTLY!!

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2007, 03:01:12 PM »




For the life of me, I simply can't understand how the American people can vote to office a person who is so obviously unintelligent.  John Stewart had an episode where Bush was debating Bush - he would show Bush voice one opinion then in another clip, show Bush talking about the same topic and voice the polar opposite opinion.  Like my opinions or hate them, my views are very well formed and I can explain to you my opinions in great detail.  It seems like Bush doesn't even have a clue of what he is saying half the time and is nothing more than a front for others within his administration.



Well, most Americans live in comfort, they feel as though they don't have to have a complex understanding of most issues. This leads them to making decisions based on the opinions of others, regardless of whether those opinions make any fucking sense or not. I guess most Americans are not critical thinkers, which is why a lot of horrible shit is being allowed to happen. Things such as wiretapping, the Iraq war, pushing for a third front in Iran. Antther thing is that Americans are basing more and more sutff on ideals, rather than facts. Just look at the war on drugs. The sole purpose of the war on drugs has very little to do with helping people, but rather it has more to do with people's views on drug use. What I'm angry about is that most Americans don't even seriously speak out against stupid government policies that are completely bogus and are implemented via lies.

The US should be a liberterian country because libertarian ideals are what this country was founded upon. Funny how Bush always talks about freedom, it's obvious he doesn't have a clue what freedom is.

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2007, 03:01:23 PM »
EXACTLY!!

well when it gets hotter and hotter my brown desert bearing ass will be still ok...


you r the first one in trouble with rizing skin cancer rates whitey!  ;D
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2007, 04:35:28 PM »
Actually, you CAN do something about it.

If you believe man is affecting the environment, vote for a party which wants to limit pollution, require standards, and investigate it.

if you believe man has zero influence on it, vote for a party which doesn't want to do anything about these things.


It ain't rocket science.  We may or may not be causing it.  But there's no denying the waters are rising, the weather is changing, and that crazy shit people predicted a few years back is actually happening. :(

Rob,

I agree we should influence action. It is the responsibility of leading first world nations to take a leadership role in addressing this global challenge, and we can help make this happen.

We should write to our local newspapers about the significance of the global warming threat and the need for leadership on the issue. We can also monitor our newspaper's coverage of this issue and write in response to any stories or letters that dismiss global warming. We can write or call our heads of state to let them know that we expect them to be an international leader on this issue.

Contact our members of parliament, or congressional representative and senators to encourage them to support actions to address the root causes of global warming: the emission of heat-trapping gases.

Ask your premiers, governors, state legislators, MPs, and public utility regulators to promote energy efficiency, nonpolluting transportation alternatives, and the development of clean, renewable sources of energy -- like solar and wind power.

Tell government officials that we want them to push industry to protect the future health of the environment by reducing carbon emissions.

It's important to note that our power to effect global warming also goes well beyond the ballot box. Some may choose to believe we have no power to effect change if the right person isn't voted into office, or if our elected officials choose to ignore us. Nonsense! Given events of late, it is quite very possible our elected officials may choose to ignore us. nonetheless, it's our problem, and it's time for us as citizens on this beautiful blue ball we call home, to rise up and reclaim our planet, both for ourselves, and for the subsequent generations who will inhabit it. So what if an environmentalist isn't in power, ...we can STILL do our part and effect change on a global scale.

We all know that burning fossil fuels such as natural gas, coal, oil and gasoline raises the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and carbon dioxide is a major contributor to the greenhouse effect and global warming.

We can help to reduce the demand for fossil fuels, which in turn reduces global warming, by using energy more wisely.

Here are 10 simple, painless, & practical actions we can take to reduce global warming.



1) Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

We can do our part to reduce waste by choosing reusable products instead of disposables. Buying products with minimal packaging (including the economy size when that makes sense for you) will help to reduce waste. And whenever we can, recycle paper, plastic, newspaper, glass and aluminum cans. If there isn’t a recycling program at your workplace, school, or in your community, ask about starting one. By recycling half of our household waste, we can save 2,400 pounds of carbon dioxide annually.

2) Use Less Heat and Air Conditioning

Adding insulation to our walls and attic, and installing weather stripping or caulking around doors and windows can lower our heating costs more than 25 percent, by reducing the amount of energy we need to heat & cool our homes
 
Turn down the heat while we’re sleeping at night or away during the day, and keep temperatures moderate at all times. Setting our thermostat just 2 degrees lower in winter and higher in summer could save about 2,000 pounds of carbon dioxide each year.

3) Change a Light Bulb

Wherever practical, replace regular light bulbs with compact florescent light (CFL) bulbs. Replacing just one 60-watt incandescent light bulb with a CFL will save us $30 over the life of the bulb. CFLs also last 10 times longer than incandescent bulbs, use two-thirds less energy, and give off 70 percent less heat.

If every North American family replaced one regular light bulb with a CFL, it would eliminate well over 90 billion pounds of greenhouse gases, the same as taking 7.5 million cars off the road.

4) Buy Energy-Efficient Products and Foods

When it’s time to buy a new car, choose one that offers good gas mileage. Home appliances now come in a range of energy-efficient models, and compact florescent bulbs are designed to provide more natural-looking light while using far less energy than standard light bulbs. Look for the EnergyStar on our appliances.

For coffee lovers, drink shade-grown coffee. Sun-grown coffee is produced in areas of devastated rainforest, while shade-grown varieties help preserve the rainforest, reduce the need for pesticides, and are ultimately beneficial for the planet.

Eat more vegetables, less meat. The average North American diet causes the release of an extra 1.5 tons of greenhouse gases per year compared with a strict plant-based diet. Reducing your meat and dairy intake by half can make a big difference.

Avoid products that come with excess packaging, especially molded plastic and other packaging that can't be recycled. If we reduce our household garbage by 10 percent, we can save 1,200 pounds of carbon dioxide annually.


5) Use the "Off" Switch

Save electricity and reduce global warming by turning off lights when we leave a room, and using only as much light as we need. And remember to turn off our television, video player, stereo and computer when we're not using them.
 

6) Plant a Tree

If you have the means to plant a tree, start digging. Trees absorb carbon dioxide and give off oxygen. They are an integral part of the natural atmospheric exchange cycle here on Earth, but there are too few of them to fully counter the increases in carbon dioxide caused by automobile traffic, manufacturing and other human activities. A single tree will absorb approximately one ton of carbon dioxide during its lifetime.

7) Get a Report Card from Your Utility Company

Many utility companies provide home energy audits to help consumers identify areas in their homes that may not be energy efficient. In addition, many utility companies offer rebate programs to help pay for the cost of energy-efficient upgrades.

8 ) Use Less Water

Set your water heater at 120 degrees to save energy, and wrap it in an insulating blanket if it is more than 5 years old. Buy low-flow showerheads to save hot water and about 350 pounds of carbon dioxide yearly. Wash your clothes in warm or cold water to reduce your use of hot water and the energy required to produce it. That change alone can save at least 500 pounds of carbon dioxide annually in most households. Use the energy-saving settings on your dishwasher and let the dishes air-dry. It’s also a good idea to turn off the water when you’re not using it. While brushing your teeth, shampooing the dog, or washing your car, turn off the water until you actually need it for rinsing. Even better, ...wash your car without water. Yes, ...it IS possible to do that. You’ll reduce your water bill and help to conserve a vital resource. Imagine what a positive impact that would have on the world's water supply if everyone starting washing their car without water... Imagine that

9) Drive Less and Drive Smart

Less driving means fewer emissions. Besides saving gasoline, walking and biking are great forms of exercise. Explore your community’s mass transit system, and check out options for carpooling to work or school.

When you do drive, make sure your car is running efficiently. For example, keeping your tires properly inflated can improve your gas mileage by more than 3 percent. Every gallon of gas you save not only helps your budget, it also keeps 20 pounds of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.

Use MPG-Caps. <--click me

Not only have these caplets been proven in over 20,000,000 miles of highway/city fleet testing to improve gas mileage and fuel economy, they have also been proven to reduce smog causing emissions by 75% +. 

Just listen to what these satisfied users have to say about them, as well as all the money they're saving.

10) Encourage Others to Conserve

Share information about recycling and energy conservation with your friends, neighbors and co-workers, and take opportunities to encourage public officials to establish programs and policies that are good for the environment.

These 10 steps will take us a long way toward reducing our own energy use AND our monthly bills. And less energy use means less dependence on the fossil fuels that create greenhouse gases and contribute to global warming.

Hope That Helps,


“Global warming and the pollution and burning of fossil fuels that cause it are threats we see here in California and everywhere around the world. I am joining this historic virtual march on Washington, along with other leaders, because we need to address global warming now.” -- Arnold Schwarzenegger - Governor (R-CA)
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2007, 05:36:42 PM »
well when it gets hotter and hotter my brown desert bearing ass will be still ok...


you r the first one in trouble with rizing skin cancer rates whitey!  ;D

I'm Italian, I live at the beach and most of the time I'm in flip flops, board shorts and shirtless and get checked regularly....I'm good, and when the earth temp rises another one degree in the next hundred years....it ain't my problem...I'll be dead!!

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2007, 05:51:58 PM »
jag has the right idea... there's something WE can do about it,,, things dont get done when you put blame on others, while you sit around with your thumb up your ass.. dont bother asking a politician what to do,, act on your own

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2007, 06:32:11 PM »
it ain't my problem...I'll be dead!!

aren't ya supposed to be a good christian?

you ARE a bush supporter..

ziiiing!  ;D
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2007, 09:25:18 PM »
And the 10 hottest years in history have been in the last 11 years.

All the previously predicted computer model simulations run in the 50s & 60s are proving correct.

everyone makes statements the say "in History" when in fact we only have knowledge of a couple hunred years...What was the temp here on the east coast of the states in 10 BC...for 840 AD or 1492 how about 1700??? nobody knows do they? What if in 1492 we had 75 degree winters...What would be the cause? 

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2007, 09:55:31 PM »
And the 10 hottest years in recorded history have been in the last 11 years.

All the previously predicted computer model simulations run in the 50s & 60s are proving correct.

There Wombat, I corrected it.  :)
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2007, 09:59:45 PM »
This is Necessary for everyday living.


Don't begrudge I-one his extender. Some guy's do it with vettes & ferrarri's, some need monster trucks.
...sides, the truck isn't really all that big {whispering} it just looks that way because Joe is so small. shhhhh.  ;)
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #92 on: February 05, 2007, 03:03:50 AM »
I agree.  ;)

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/features/gardening/pages/CAON0688.htm

-38 Celsius!!!  That's -36.4 F!  Yesterday it went down to -43.6F!!  Do you have any idea how cold that is?  You can literally die if you walk outside in that weather and you aren't adequately dressed for it.

Ya Matt, I do. I'm just glad I got my balaclava. They just announced our high today is gonna feel like -30 degrees.

The wind is sooo bad, it blows down the vent and keeps blowing my fireplace out.
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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #93 on: February 05, 2007, 12:42:22 PM »
I'm Italian, I live at the beach and most of the time I'm in flip flops, board shorts and shirtless and get checked regularly....I'm good, and when the earth temp rises another one degree in the next hundred years....it ain't my problem...I'll be dead!!

It will be your kids, and his kids problem. Good thinking!!!!!

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #94 on: February 05, 2007, 12:46:51 PM »
it ain't my problem...I'll be dead!!

What kind of world do you want your kids and grandkids to live in?

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #95 on: February 05, 2007, 12:48:23 PM »
What kind of world do you want your kids and grandkids to live in?




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« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2007, 12:53:21 PM »
What kind of world do you want your kids and grandkids to live in?

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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2007, 06:11:52 PM »
Some reasons why anthropogenic global warming is a poor theory:

1.  The theories pinning the blame for warming on human activities are based upon computer models.  As someone who has worked on computer models (for phenomena much simpler than the climate), I assure you that when it comes down to getting paid you'll find ways to make the model predict what you need it to.  The climate is ridiculously complicated.  All you have to do is tweak assumptions slightly and you can get dramatically different outcomes, and no one can say a priori if the assumptions are reasonable or not. 

2.  The earth has gone through numerous warming and cooling phases in the past, long before we were ever around.  It's going to go through climate swings long after we're gone, too.  Most people don't know that the average temperature in the Middle Ages was warmer than it is now.  (I guess we can conclude that it was all of the feudal serfs' CO2 emissions that caused the warming?).  Correlation does not imply causation; just because our industrial activity and "greenhouse gas" emissions are higher now does not imply that the earth is warming as an effect. 

3.  Anthropogenic global warming is not falsifiable, at least not within the span of several decades.  When you point to evidence that some regions (Western USA) are having very cold winters you're told that it's due to global warming.  Having a lot of hurricanes (in 2005) is alleged to be a sign of global warming, and not having hurricanes is also alleged to be a sign of global warming (in 2006).  You can't have it both ways!  In order for a theory to be taken seriously it needs to be able to make predictions that can be disproved.  Global warming, conveniently enough, does not make predictions that can be tested out in any meaningful sense. 

4.  There are simpler, more direct mechanisms for describing the earth's warming or cooling (mainly solar activity).  But these can't be blamed on human activity, and so they're of little interest to a media that is focused on scare tactics to get juicy stories. 


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Re: There is NO such thing as global warming......
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2007, 06:26:10 PM »
Some reasons why anthropogenic global warming is a poor theory:

1.  The theories pinning the blame for warming on human activities are based upon computer models.  As someone who has worked on computer models (for phenomena much simpler than the climate), I assure you that when it comes down to getting paid you'll find ways to make the model predict what you need it to.  The climate is ridiculously complicated.  All you have to do is tweak assumptions slightly and you can get dramatically different outcomes, and no one can say a priori if the assumptions are reasonable or not. 

2.  The earth has gone through numerous warming and cooling phases in the past, long before we were ever around.  It's going to go through climate swings long after we're gone, too.  Most people don't know that the average temperature in the Middle Ages was warmer than it is now.  (I guess we can conclude that it was all of the feudal serfs' CO2 emissions that caused the warming?).  Correlation does not imply causation; just because our industrial activity and "greenhouse gas" emissions are higher now does not imply that the earth is warming as an effect. 

3.  Anthropogenic global warming is not falsifiable, at least not within the span of several decades.  When you point to evidence that some regions (Western USA) are having very cold winters you're told that it's due to global warming.  Having a lot of hurricanes (in 2005) is alleged to be a sign of global warming, and not having hurricanes is also alleged to be a sign of global warming (in 2006).  You can't have it both ways!  In order for a theory to be taken seriously it needs to be able to make predictions that can be disproved.  Global warming, conveniently enough, does not make predictions that can be tested out in any meaningful sense. 

4.  There are simpler, more direct mechanisms for describing the earth's warming or cooling (mainly solar activity).  But these can't be blamed on human activity, and so they're of little interest to a media that is focused on scare tactics to get juicy stories. 





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