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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2007, 04:32:01 PM »
i would buy the video if it comes out
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2007, 04:45:37 PM »
I wonder if Milos has anything to say about trevor....
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2007, 04:48:40 PM »
I wonder if Milos has anything to say about trevor....

I'd love to hear what he has to say

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2007, 04:51:52 PM »
I'd love to hear what he has to say

I wonder what it would take to get him to post in this thread......I'm gonna pm him....
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2007, 06:36:13 PM »
I wonder if Milos has anything to say about trevor....

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2007, 06:39:15 PM »
I just searched on his forum but it doesn't seem like he gave his opinion about it there either

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2007, 07:21:40 PM »
no..you got it wrong, I wasn't saying it like that.  I wasn't t;rying to be a dick, I just heard different things than you did.

I know he worked on a dvd but I just heard a different story than you did...nothing more nothing less.  I hope it comes out, I'd probably buy it.

I didn't take it as you being a dick. I knew how you meant it.

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2007, 07:27:36 PM »
You want your legs to feel pain? Do Serge's leg routine full-bore twice a week. Yeah, bitches!  >:(
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2007, 08:13:04 PM »
You want your legs to feel pain? Do Serge's leg routine full-bore twice a week. Yeah, bitches!  >:(
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2007, 08:13:47 PM »
what is it ?

Squat with the empty bar for 10 000 quarter reps at full speed. Seriously.
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2007, 08:15:02 PM »
Squat with the empty bar for 10 000 quarter reps at full speed. Seriously.
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2007, 08:30:53 PM »
sounds gay

That's cause your spotter has a boner every time you do squats

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2007, 08:41:10 PM »
That's cause your spotter has a boner every time you do squats

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2007, 09:26:22 AM »
http://www.musclemayhem.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39691

this really is an awsome thread, there's a few interviews with Lee Priest and one with Paul Demayo that are pretty good reads.  Sounds like trevor and Lee were buddies so I wonder if Lee would comment on this thread.

Really, if you take the time to read it there is some very good information to be found, I don't know about how true the weights used are-I'd love to see the video but the training sounds pretty brutal from what is written here.
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2007, 11:19:15 AM »
http://www.musclemayhem.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39691

this really is an awsome thread, there's a few interviews with Lee Priest and one with Paul Demayo that are pretty good reads.  Sounds like trevor and Lee were buddies so I wonder if Lee would comment on this thread.

Really, if you take the time to read it there is some very good information to be found, I don't know about how true the weights used are-I'd love to see the video but the training sounds pretty brutal from what is written here.

He seems like a smart guy, big heart and brains. However, he died and he died by his own doing. It is hard to take seriously everything he writes when you know that he will eventually hurt himself. I  hope he rest in peace but I think he should have listened to his own advice, especially about cycles.

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2007, 08:00:51 AM »
pretty cool pic I found, that's a ton of weight and I don't think the guy spotting him is capable of helping him that much....anyway, this is a pretty cool pic:

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2007, 11:15:38 AM »
pretty cool pic I found, that's a ton of weight and I don't think the guy spotting him is capable of helping him that much....anyway, this is a pretty cool pic:


The spotter can't help much. But between the spotter, the wraps, and his pushing off of his knees, he's got a big advantage. Still rather impressive for one leg, I guess.
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2007, 11:49:49 AM »
If I may offer my 2 cents and some clarification here.

a)Trevor was monstrous. I stood next to Trevor at the expo in Vegas at the USA's and I was 303lbs at 6'1", Trevor was an inch taller than me but easily had another 50-60lbs on me.  He had some bodyfat on him but make no doubt about it, he was a massive individual and would of been incredibley impressive dieted down. He had alot of muscle mass on him.

b)For many years now I feel like I should of said/done more at the end. Trevor had emailed me some days before he died....it really took a huge toll on him, the relationship woe's coupled with a resounding sickening fact that people online dont stop for a second to think about. There were alot of people who bashed Trevor relentlessly, some people who are still here to this day on this very board, who took great joy in making that guy feel like total absolute shit. Alot of it was really brutal.
    He took that stuff to heart ... we had talked about it many times....the stuff said hurt him. All what you guys saw was a 360 pound individual who you thought it was cool to make fun of....well that guy was a human being inside.
    He could not understand why when he was just trying to help people with a mindset and a methodology, that people could say things that cut to the bone. I know you guys think "oh its only a freaking message board, who the f**k cares"....well thats fine and dandy when you hide behind a screen name 24/7 and noone knows who the hell you are.....your hidden, you just click the off button and your right back to your anomynous life.....its another thing when your pics and full name are out there and people are saying "that fat f**k doesnt deserve his hot wife, what does she see in that fucking obese MF" and so on and so on..............Trevor read it all, every bit of it, he just never posted in reaction............so Trevor and I talked thru this in emails back and forth at the end and I thought I left him on a pretty good note as he said something to the effect "thanks dante, I really appreciate those words, its been really tough on me of late"
Obviously I didnt say enough (Im pretty sure I know how Trevor died, and some of you guys on this thread who knew him do to....Im not privy to say though...as there is some legal jargon to run thru in all this)

c)Ill tell you what.... give me the choice of having Trevor as a friend versus 99% of people on these boards who will backstab you and screw you over at the drop of a hat to better themselves.....Id take Trevor in a heartbeat. He was loyal and he had honor, something you dont see in this sport much.....just look at the deviousness of this board....could you honestly trust the people on this board that are around you with the gimmick accounts and the backstabbing. What you see is what you got with Trevor...I dont care what these other people on this thread say. He was a good man in my book.  If I remember right he asked me to write something for his mag he was putting out back in the day, I asked him to see a copy.....he sends me a copy and 4 jugs of free protein with a note ("on the house Dante, your a good guy")

and he was too

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2007, 12:13:55 PM »
DC, I almost thought about asking you if you knew Trevor, his writing style reminds me alot of yours for some reason and it seems like he thought out of the box alot which I also think you do.

Anyway, the thread that someone posted earlier and then I reposted it is really pretty f'n awsome, I'm reading every word of it...lots of great, great information on there.  I just finished the first page and I honestly haven't read a better thread in a loooooong time.  Good interview with Lee Priest on there.  I'd encourage everyone to read it...not cause I'm a trevor smith slappy..I didn't even know who he was until a few months ago but because he wrote some really amazing articles and was pretty brutally honest in what he wrote, he doesn't back down from any subject..it really is a great read.
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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2007, 12:35:50 PM »
If I may offer my 2 cents and some clarification here.

a)Trevor was monstrous. I stood next to Trevor at the expo in Vegas at the USA's and I was 303lbs at 6'1", Trevor was an inch taller than me but easily had another 50-60lbs on me.  He had some bodyfat on him but make no doubt about it, he was a massive individual and would of been incredibley impressive dieted down. He had alot of muscle mass on him.

b)For many years now I feel like I should of said/done more at the end. Trevor had emailed me some days before he died....it really took a huge toll on him, the relationship woe's coupled with a resounding sickening fact that people online dont stop for a second to think about. There were alot of people who bashed Trevor relentlessly, some people who are still here to this day on this very board, who took great joy in making that guy feel like total absolute shit. Alot of it was really brutal.
    He took that stuff to heart ... we had talked about it many times....the stuff said hurt him. All what you guys saw was a 360 pound individual who you thought it was cool to make fun of....well that guy was a human being inside.
    He could not understand why when he was just trying to help people with a mindset and a methodology, that people could say things that cut to the bone. I know you guys think "oh its only a freaking message board, who the f**k cares"....well thats fine and dandy when you hide behind a screen name 24/7 and noone knows who the hell you are.....your hidden, you just click the off button and your right back to your anomynous life.....its another thing when your pics and full name are out there and people are saying "that fat f**k doesnt deserve his hot wife, what does she see in that fucking obese MF" and so on and so on..............Trevor read it all, every bit of it, he just never posted in reaction............so Trevor and I talked thru this in emails back and forth at the end and I thought I left him on a pretty good note as he said something to the effect "thanks dante, I really appreciate those words, its been really tough on me of late"
Obviously I didnt say enough (Im pretty sure I know how Trevor died, and some of you guys on this thread who knew him do to....Im not privy to say though...as there is some legal jargon to run thru in all this)

c)Ill tell you what.... give me the choice of having Trevor as a friend versus 99% of people on these boards who will backstab you and screw you over at the drop of a hat to better themselves.....Id take Trevor in a heartbeat. He was loyal and he had honor, something you dont see in this sport much.....just look at the deviousness of this board....could you honestly trust the people on this board that are around you with the gimmick accounts and the backstabbing. What you see is what you got with Trevor...I dont care what these other people on this thread say. He was a good man in my book.  If I remember right he asked me to write something for his mag he was putting out back in the day, I asked him to see a copy.....he sends me a copy and 4 jugs of free protein with a note ("on the house Dante, your a good guy")

and he was too

Didn't know you knew him well. I'v heard many things on how he died. One being due to a synthol injection. The reason I said it was a hart attack is because the person who told me, who had been REALLY close with him for many years told me that.

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Re: Trevor Smith: Beyond Failure Training and the stories of his life
« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2007, 04:10:43 PM »
I posted my first thread yesterday about a man here in Kansas City who claims to have co-created BFT with Trevor. He has even opened a Beyond Failure Training Center in Blue Springs,MO. Most people think this guy is full of shit. This guys name is Larry Maples. Can anyone that knew Trevor comment on this? Is it even legal for him to use the Beyond Failure name?

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Re: Trevor Smith: Beyond Failure Training and the stories of his life
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2007, 04:22:18 PM »
I posted my first thread yesterday about a man here in Kansas City who claims to have co-created BFT with Trevor. He has even opened a Beyond Failure Training Center in Blue Springs,MO. Most people think this guy is full of shit. This guys name is Larry Maples. Can anyone that knew Trevor comment on this? Is it even legal for him to use the Beyond Failure name?

I sent a message to someone who might be able to do something about it.

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Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training !
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2007, 04:29:44 PM »
If I may offer my 2 cents and some clarification here.

a)Trevor was monstrous. I stood next to Trevor at the expo in Vegas at the USA's and I was 303lbs at 6'1", Trevor was an inch taller than me but easily had another 50-60lbs on me.  He had some bodyfat on him but make no doubt about it, he was a massive individual and would of been incredibley impressive dieted down. He had alot of muscle mass on him.

b)For many years now I feel like I should of said/done more at the end. Trevor had emailed me some days before he died....it really took a huge toll on him, the relationship woe's coupled with a resounding sickening fact that people online dont stop for a second to think about. There were alot of people who bashed Trevor relentlessly, some people who are still here to this day on this very board, who took great joy in making that guy feel like total absolute shit. Alot of it was really brutal.
    He took that stuff to heart ... we had talked about it many times....the stuff said hurt him. All what you guys saw was a 360 pound individual who you thought it was cool to make fun of....well that guy was a human being inside.
    He could not understand why when he was just trying to help people with a mindset and a methodology, that people could say things that cut to the bone. I know you guys think "oh its only a freaking message board, who the f**k cares"....well thats fine and dandy when you hide behind a screen name 24/7 and noone knows who the hell you are.....your hidden, you just click the off button and your right back to your anomynous life.....its another thing when your pics and full name are out there and people are saying "that fat f**k doesnt deserve his hot wife, what does she see in that fucking obese MF" and so on and so on..............Trevor read it all, every bit of it, he just never posted in reaction............so Trevor and I talked thru this in emails back and forth at the end and I thought I left him on a pretty good note as he said something to the effect "thanks dante, I really appreciate those words, its been really tough on me of late"
Obviously I didnt say enough (Im pretty sure I know how Trevor died, and some of you guys on this thread who knew him do to....Im not privy to say though...as there is some legal jargon to run thru in all this)

c)Ill tell you what.... give me the choice of having Trevor as a friend versus 99% of people on these boards who will backstab you and screw you over at the drop of a hat to better themselves.....Id take Trevor in a heartbeat. He was loyal and he had honor, something you dont see in this sport much.....just look at the deviousness of this board....could you honestly trust the people on this board that are around you with the gimmick accounts and the backstabbing. What you see is what you got with Trevor...I dont care what these other people on this thread say. He was a good man in my book.  If I remember right he asked me to write something for his mag he was putting out back in the day, I asked him to see a copy.....he sends me a copy and 4 jugs of free protein with a note ("on the house Dante, your a good guy")

and he was too

Damn Dante I had no idea message boards could do that. Words sting harder than swords if you let them.
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Re: Trevor Smith: Beyond Failure Training and the stories of his life
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2007, 12:04:50 PM »
Hey Chris2489, did you hear back from the person you e-mailed about this guy using the Beyond Failure name and taking credit for helping create the system? I just found out the guy is now trying to start BFT centers across the country. Maybe I'm wrong, and the guy has permission to do this, but he seems like a con- man to me and everyone else around here.

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Re: Trevor Smith: Beyond Failure Training and the stories of his life
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2007, 12:24:08 PM »
Hey Chris2489, did you hear back from the person you e-mailed about this guy using the Beyond Failure name and taking credit for helping create the system? I just found out the guy is now trying to start BFT centers across the country. Maybe I'm wrong, and the guy has permission to do this, but he seems like a con- man to me and everyone else around here.

you should try trackind down Ian Harrison or maybe Trevor's wife.  I know in his writings whenevere trevor mentions BFT training or any of his techniques he puts a "TM" on them so they are trademarked.
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