Author Topic: JOJ's NEW LIFT CLAIMS IN FLEX MAGAZINE!!!! (Read 4757 times)

alexxx · « **on:** January 10, 2007, 08:53:15 AM »

Apparently the little bugger can press the 150s for 12-15 reps overhead in his offseason. Now last I heard he could barely get 150 x 4 reps with while training with Coleman on incline chest. How can this be?

The Squadfather · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:54:05 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 08:53:15 AM

Apparently the little bugger can press the 150s for 12-15 reps overhead in his offseason. Now last I heard he could barely get 150 x 4 reps with while training with Coleman on incline chest. How can this be?

bullshit.

anvil · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:55:42 AM »

We're all stronger on paper. And the internet.

alexxx · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:58:59 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on January 10, 2007, 08:54:05 AM

bullshit.

Here is the full quote!

"With his full quota of carbs(who talks this way anyways) and calories in the offseason, Jackson regularly presses 150-pound dumbbells(sp haha) for 15 reps, uses 100 pound dumbells for 10 reps of side laterals, and upright rows are 335 for 12 reps. He's hoisted as much as 405 for eight reps for upright rows."

The Squadfather · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:59:57 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 08:58:59 AM

Here is the full quote!

"With his full quota of carbs(who talks this way anyways) and calories in the offseason, Jackson regularly presses 150-pound dumbbells(sp haha) for 15 reps, uses 100 pound dumbells for 10 reps of side laterals, and upright rows are 335 for 12 reps. He's hoisted as much as 405 for eight reps for upright rows."

hahahaha, what a bunch of bullshit, haha "hoisted".

alexxx · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:01:59 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on January 10, 2007, 08:59:57 AM

hahahaha, what a bunch of bullshit, haha "hoisted".

Most bodybuilders can't even deadlift that much and we are supposed to believe he has used those for upright rows? Who else here can upright row what they bent row?

jaejonna · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:02:22 AM »

The only thing more superfical than bodybuilding itself are the pundages.....then the results you get from products.

Monster Industry based on lies, lies , lies I tell ya!

Petrucci · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:03:40 AM »

well, at least we saw him doing 9 reps i think with 100lbs for side laterals on the W4W videos with chick with reasonable good form

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:12:41 AM »

i doubt he can even do one rep with 150lbs for shoulder press

bigtraps · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:26:10 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on January 10, 2007, 09:12:41 AM

i doubt he can even do one rep with 150lbs for shoulder press

Might be able to get 1 with help.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:27:59 AM »

Quote from: bigtraps on January 10, 2007, 09:26:10 AM

Might be able to get 1 with help.

yeah one shaky rep...maybe

MCWAY · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:56:03 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 08:58:59 AM

Here is the full quote!

"With his full quota of carbs(who talks this way anyways) and calories in the offseason, Jackson regularly presses 150-pound dumbbells(sp haha) for 15 reps, uses 100 pound dumbells for 10 reps of side laterals, and upright rows are 335 for 12 reps. He's hoisted as much as 405 for eight reps for upright rows."

Who talks like that? Hmmm...try magazine writers with vocabularies.

Why are Jackson's strength claims so far-fetched. I've pressed with 105s and I'm nowhere near as big as Jackson is.

alexxx · « **Reply #12 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:59:07 AM »

Quote from: MCWAY on January 10, 2007, 09:56:03 AM

Who talks like that? Hmmm...try magazine writers with vocabularies.

Why are Jackson's strength claims so far-fetched. I've pressed with 105s and I'm nowhere near as big as Jackson is.

Yes we know magazine writers are girlie men.

so from pressing the 105s you get that you can also press the 150s or what?

MCWAY · « **Reply #13 on:** January 10, 2007, 10:01:07 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 09:59:07 AM

Yes we know magazine writers are girlie men.

so from pressing the 105s you get that you can also press the 150s or what?

Ummm....NOOOOO!!!

My point was that, if I can press 105s, I don't find it all that difficult to see how Jackson (FAR LARGER AND STRONGER THAN I AM) can handle 150s (especially, if he's in off-season mode).

alexxx · « **Reply #14 on:** January 10, 2007, 10:07:57 AM »

Quote from: MCWAY on January 10, 2007, 10:01:07 AM

Ummm....NOOOOO!!!

My point was that, if I can press 105s, I don't find it all that difficult to see how Jackson (FAR LARGER AND STRONGER THAN I AM) can handle 150s (especially, if he's in off-season mode).

I am sure he could press them for a few but with no range. I know that magazine writers have a nack for stretching the truth. Johnnie could be ending his workout with a few reps of them.

Flex does them with full range and he does not consider himself the strongest lifter.

MCWAY · « **Reply #15 on:** January 10, 2007, 10:49:32 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 10:07:57 AM

I am sure he could press them for a few but with no range. I know that magazine writers have a nack for stretching the truth. Johnnie could be ending his workout with a few reps of them.

Flex does them with full range and he does not consider himself the strongest lifter.

So, you believe that Wheeler (a guy who wasn't known for having phenomenal strength, relatively speaking) can handle 150s; but, Jackson, who is at a similar size level and a bona-fide powerlifter, somehow can't do the same?

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2007, 11:09:40 AM »

I like that, people who train heavy but make the muscle work and don't boast about their lifts (flex,Lee). I really don't care that ronnie can do the 200s and then scream yeah buddy.

Overload · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:20:56 PM »

JOJ does 10 or 12 easy reps with the 150's on incline in his "power bodybuilding DVD"...

I think they meant bent rows instead of upright...that's alot of weight.

if you watch his videos you will see he is pretty strong...benches 495 for 3 reps.

pinchharmonic · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:25:48 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on January 10, 2007, 08:58:59 AM

Here is the full quote!

"With his full quota of carbs(who talks this way anyways) and calories in the offseason, Jackson regularly presses 150-pound dumbbells(sp haha) for 15 reps, uses 100 pound dumbells for 10 reps of side laterals, and upright rows are 335 for 12 reps. He's hoisted as much as 405 for eight reps for upright rows."

wth? i think everyone's seen the video of him "hoisting" 405 for bent over barbell rows, how the hell can he do that so poorly and manage to do 405 for upright rows for 8??!?

pinchharmonic · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:30:13 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on January 10, 2007, 10:01:07 AM

Ummm....NOOOOO!!!

My point was that, if I can press 105s, I don't find it all that difficult to see how Jackson (FAR LARGER AND STRONGER THAN I AM) can handle 150s (especially, if he's in off-season mode).

i find it hard to believe someone that would type "ummm... noooooooo!!!!" like some 8 year old girl could press 105s

cheeksmaliod · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2007, 01:37:34 PM »

Branch has said before that Johnnie would use 315 for a bunch of reps with the upright row. As for the 150 shoulder press I don't believe it. In a muscular development a few years back Branch said that he only does theat weight for 8 reps and that he would never think about going heavier. Johnnie is a terrific squatter and deadlifter but to say he is stronger than Branch at pressing movements is crazy. And also there is a huge difference between pressing 105 and pressing 150. Think back to when you could only press80 pounds would you have every said 105 ain't no big deal.

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2007, 01:45:02 PM »

johnnie has recorded powerlifting lifts of around 830 pounds in the squat and 814 pounds in the deadlift weighing 230 or so, with the deadlift happening a few weeks prior to the 2001 nationals. i don't really find his claim to be bullshit if he's full offseason.

bailey · « **Reply #22 on:** January 10, 2007, 03:39:52 PM »

Well it just goes to show you that it's not how much you lift to have a great physique. His physique is just average as far as the top pro's are concerned. His legs are actually below average in fact. Then again if you see his form and range of motion on his lifts, it explains it all. 1/4 inch range of motion lifts !

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 10, 2007, 03:48:20 PM »

questionable lifts for johnie ronnie did reps with 160lbs

johnie i dont think is strong on pressing lifts at all.... his 405 bench and inclines... qustionable bouncing there.. and he struggled unlike branch...
upright rowing 405.... hmmm i dont think so...
.. i am yet to see johnie on video do any of there lifts..
also branch and johnie behind the neck pressing 405 for 15 or 20 reps i heard. questionable...

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2007, 03:48:48 PM »

Doesn't he have a couple of PL records?

Author Topic: JOJ's NEW LIFT CLAIMS IN FLEX MAGAZINE!!!! (Read 4757 times)

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