PDI - No Website For A Month??

[BRUCE]

I talked to Wayne day before yesterday for about 30 minutes.  The website is almost done.  It should be up this month.  He told me who has been in contact with him and who has committed.  And EVERYONE will be surprised I promise 100%.

Why, if 240 can do it in a matter of hours, is it taking the PDI months to create a website?? How serious are they about really promoting their product?

[onlyme]

Why, if 240 can do it in a matter of hours, is it taking the PDI months to create a website?? How serious are they about really promoting their product?

He hired a major firm to do it.  Let it go.  And have you seen the IFBB website.  Ask your self how serious are they then come back.

[BRUCE]

He hired a major firm to do it.  Let it go.  And have you seen the IFBB website.  Ask your self how serious are they then come back.

You tell me to let it go with the PDI and then raise the IFBB's own website issue, bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?  I do agree that their website is far less than adequate, but at least they have one.  I look forward to seeing the PDI's version.

[getfast81]

I too have been waiting out for this PDI website.  But I am pretty sure Wayne will get it right with the website.  And I am damn sure there will be some new guys on board that might surprise some people.  Paul Dillett is a great catch for them for sure.

[Hugo Chavez]

He hired a major firm to do it.  Let it go.  And have you seen the IFBB website.   Ask your self how serious are they then come back.

yea, it's like designed for a 10 inch monitor and looked the same as it did when it began...

1998 same as today

http://web.archive.org/web/19981212025808/http://www.ifbb.com/

[gordiano]

yea, it's like designed for a 10 inch monitor and looked the same as it did when it began...

1998 same as today

http://web.archive.org/web/19981212025808/http://www.ifbb.com/

LOL.



What a fucking turd that site was/is!

[Matt C]

Even a website of the highest caliber won't take more than a day to make.  240 can make a website in a matter of hours and if he wanted to bring things up a notch quality wise it would still not take him anything near a month.

I'm going to start on a new website template right now as I browse getbig and use MSN.  Before I go to bed (in a couple of hours), it will be complete.  I will post a link before bed.

[BRUCE]

Even a website of the highest caliber won't take more than a day to make.  240 can make a website in a matter of hours and if he wanted to bring things up a notch quality wise it would still not take him anything near a month.

I'm going to start on a new website template right now as I browse getbig and use MSN.  Before I go to bed (in a couple of hours), it will be complete.  I will post a link before bed.

This is what I was getting at, Matt.  What's with the delay?? How serious is the PDI? I'd want it up and running much sooner that just 'sometime this month'.....

[Stark]

Why, if 240 can do it in a matter of hours, is it taking the PDI months to create a website?? How serious are they about really promoting their product?

I tell you why... and I want to appologice to 240 right from the start, I'm just honest here bro.
I have been designing webpages HTML, XHTML, PHP, FLASH you name it for about 7-8 years now, so I can say with confidence that I know what I'm talking about.
With all respect to 240 he is doing a good job when it comes down to making money of the thing, but his webpages are seriously nothing to brag about and defiantly nothing I would use If I would be the head of the PDI.
He might be doing a great job in the eyes of people who have never done a webpage before.
I mean look at the Kaged Muscle webpage..http://www.kagedmuscle.com horrific design and concept.

What 240 should do is to share his success with somebody (and there are plenty young very very extremely talented guys out there www.sitepoint.com) artists.

[210 and growing]

haha - i have just had a look at the ifbb website to see what it is like - they actually have an anti-doping section on there, with lists of banned substances etc. Just goes to show what a hypocritical joke the sport of bodybuilding is!! 

[slaveboy1980]

PDI   FBI  CIA

[Stark]

PDI   FBI  CIA

It all makes sense now

[slaveboy1980]

It all makes sense now

PDI is a catheter into the dark dealings of bodybuilding

[RHINO290]

PDI is a catheter into the dark dealings of bodybuilding

What? This is a ridiculous statement......

[slaveboy1980]

What? This is a ridiculous statement......

i believe PDI is like FBI

[onlyme]

This is what I was getting at, Matt.  What's with the delay?? How serious is the PDI? I'd want it up and running much sooner that just 'sometime this month'.....

God I love people on here that know nothing.  So in order for a business to be successful and real they have to have a website.  Do you really believe this.  Please tell us you aren't that stupid.  Or are you?  There are over 3500 members in the Hawaii Visitors Bureau.  Less than 30% of them have websites.  And so far the PDI has done fine without one.  Get your shit straight, you embarass yourself.  And you guys who say you can do a website in a day.  Like the old saying goes "you get what you pay for".  Your one day site would exhibit "amateurism".

[onlyme]

Matt C still waiting for your awesome website.  What happened.  I read your excuse about other stuff coming up.  Good cope-out.  Also since you are a great webdesigner, you should call up Disney or Nike or someone like that.  They wasted $100,000+ on their websites that you could have done in a day for a few hundred dollars.  You are missing your calling

[Chick]

Gotta agree with my friend Keith on this one...a website aint going to make ANY difference in the success or failure of the PDi OR the IFBB.

[onlyme]

Gotta agree with my friend Keith on this one...a website aint going to make ANY difference in the success or failure of the PDi OR the IFBB.

We better quit agreeing with each other or people will start to talk

[onlyme]

I was talking on MSN.

I was paid thousands for http://www.tbcbingo.com over other web designers and web design teams.  Paying a lot of money for a website is no guarantee of anything.  The work is easy for people like 240 and I but most people are not very computer literate.

As for paying $100,000 for websites, that is utterly ridiculous, plain and simple.  I own the rights for use and resell of thousands of advanced design templates MUCH better than this:

http://www.disney.ca

Usability testing also costs a lot.  Not like it matters for anyone whose read enough on the subject.  Website design is highly skilled labour which is why it has such a high market value, but like so many other skilled jobs, becomes incredibly easy with time.  By all means, 240's websites are worth more than $300.  He undercuts his market value because he knows he will reach a broader audience that way and since the websites only take him a few hours, he would rather work with high volume.

What would you have charged for this website.  www.hawaiianoasis.com  It is a friend of mines house.  I want to see what you would have charged.

[BRUCE]

God I love people on here that know nothing.  So in order for a business to be successful and real they have to have a website.  Do you really believe this.  Please tell us you aren't that stupid.  Or are you?  There are over 3500 members in the Hawaii Visitors Bureau.  Less than 30% of them have websites.  And so far the PDI has done fine without one.  Get your shit straight, you embarass yourself.  And you guys who say you can do a website in a day.  Like the old saying goes "you get what you pay for".  Your one day site would exhibit "amateurism".

No, I don't think its elementary for a business to have one, but all serious businesses have seriously good websites.  You'll of course, point out all the very successful businesses you know of that don't have websites, won't you Keith?

And for the record, I never said a website would be the difference between succeeding or not, and I agree the IFBB's desperateley needs an overhauling too.  The PDI didn't begin on Jan 1 2007 so it's not just a month we're giving them here either Keith, you should try and stop letting your prejudices against the IFBB rule your mind for a minute and agree it's been too long.

[onlyme]

It looks like a nice, basic little website.  Nothing particularly complicated on there which I think turns people off anyway.  He's using some basic DHTML for the drop down menu from what I can tell.  Example here:

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/dropmenuindex.htm

Other than that, there is nothing too complex about the design.  I could also have a website like that up in a matter of hours to a day.  That having been said, I would ask that they make me an offer.  If it indeed only took me a few hours, I would have no problem taking $100.  If on the other hand, I was going to be offered thousands (like Thunder Bay Community Bingo), I would not say no.

240 charges to make reviews for bodybuilding DVDs in addition to receiving a review copy.  To make the review below, MuscleTime.com simply sent me the DVD for free:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gunterschlierkampstarpowerdvdreview.html

That review from start to finish took me at least five hours.  I could have charged for it, but I didn't because I'm the kind of guy who is happy to just make a living and not have to work a shitty 9-5 working for someone I hate.  I pay my friend $1,200 a year to host my website even though I could get it for $100 a year somewhere else.  I just think there is more to life than money, such as enjoying life.

Rob has an impressive resume:

http://www.flashrob.com/webdesign.htm

Why does the PDI need a more advanced website design than what Rob could offer?

My firend paid someone $30,000 for that website.  Have you ever seen this guys work.  He is awesome.  www.xdude.com

[onlyme]

No, I don't think its elementary for a business to have one, but all serious businesses have seriously good websites.  You'll of course, point out all the very successful businesses you know of that don't have websites, won't you Keith?

And for the record, I never said a website would be the difference between succeeding or not, and I agree the IFBB's desperateley needs an overhauling too.  The PDI didn't begin on Jan 1 2007 so it's not just a month we're giving them here either Keith, you should try and stop letting your prejudices against the IFBB rule your mind for a minute and agree it's been too long.

I asked Wayne about a website way back in March or April.  At that time it was the last thing he was thinking about.  Also, at the time I felt he could care less about a website.  But, now I can tell he sees the advantages of having one.  The PDI is his business not mine.  He does what he does when he wants.  So far not having a website hasn't hurt him at all.  So, in reality it hasn't mattered.  He did tell me it should be up this month and hopefully it is.  Especially now with more shows and more competitors. It will be a great way to announce new members and shows.

[BRUCE]

I asked Wayne about a website way back in March or April.  At that time it was the last thing he was thinking about.  Also, at the time I felt he could care less about a website.  But, now I can tell he sees the advantages of having one.  The PDI is his business not mine.  He does what he does when he wants.  So far not having a website hasn't hurt him at all.  So, in reality it hasn't mattered.  He did tell me it should be up this month and hopefully it is.  Especially now with more shows and more competitors. It will be a great way to announce new members and shows.

I agree, that's why they should have one and why it should be far better than the IFBB's.  Surely Wayne sees that as a weakness in one of his competitors.