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2nd hand smoke
« on: January 10, 2007, 08:45:35 PM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 08:48:19 PM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.

Good post.  Anyone doubting Croatch can visit www.michaelcrichton.com and get set straight.
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 08:48:35 PM »
"second hand"

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 08:51:29 PM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.

no it dosen't...

for YEARS after training i used to train..then immediately go to my bar for some beers and ciggys..

there r more alkie related deaths in the USA/ys than ciggy related deaths..
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 09:37:39 PM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.

croatch smokes, huh?
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 09:56:27 PM »
no it dosen't...

for YEARS after training i used to train..then immediately go to my bar for some beers and ciggys..

Gee, you sound REALLY dedicated to fitness.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 11:35:30 PM »
Gee, you sound REALLY dedicated to fitness.

He's also a cokehead.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 11:44:17 PM »
The boss in my office smokes cigars which pisses me right off.  Problem is that there's just three of us in the office including him.  So if I do rat him out to any labour organizations (not allowed to smoke in the office) it'll be pretty dam obvious its me as the other guy smokes too (at least not in the office).

It hasn't helped...

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 11:47:11 PM »
Gee, you sound REALLY dedicated to fitness.

did i say i ws fuckface?
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2007, 12:27:37 AM »
did i say i ws fuckface?

No, you didn't say you were a fuckface, but I'm starting to believe you are. :)

Why do you workout if you drink and smoke every day?

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2007, 12:31:47 AM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.
maybe not, but it for sure causes: you stink like burnt shit, get the fuck away from me syndrome...

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 05:24:53 AM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.


IDK, but it fucking smells disgusting.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2007, 05:54:32 AM »
Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet
August 2006

Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.1

Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).2
Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke. Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide.3
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700-69,600 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.4
A study found that nonsmokers exposed to environmental smoke were 25 percent more likely to have coronary heart diseases compared to nonsmokers not exposed to smoke.5
Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects.  Levels of ETS in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.6
Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada.7  Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.8
Currently, 14 states including California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, have already passed strong smoke-free air laws.9
As of 2005, nine smoke-free states prohibit smoking in almost all workplaces, including restaurants and bars (CA, CT, DE, ME, MA, NY, RI, VT and WA).10
Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.11
Secondhand smoke exposure may cause buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits per year.12 Secondhand smoke can also aggravate symptoms in 400,000  to 1,000,000 children with asthma.13
In the United States, 21 million, or 35 percent of, children live in homes where residents or visitors smoke in the home on a regular basis.14  Approximately 50-75 percent of children in the United States have detectable levels of cotinine, the breakdown product of nicotine in the blood.15
New research indicates that private research conducted by cigarette company Philip Morris in the 1980s showed that secondhand smoke was highly toxic, yet the company suppressed the finding during the next two decades.16
The current Surgeon General's Report concluded that scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to second hand smoke. Short exposures to second hand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability, potentially increasing the risk of heart attack.17
For more information on secondhand smoke, please review the Tobacco Morbidity and Mortality Trend Report as well as our Lung Disease Data publication in the Data and Statistics section of our website, or call the American Lung Association at 1-800-LUNG-USA (1-800-586-4872).
 
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2007, 06:21:50 AM »
See my avatar? In yo face, mofo. Second hand that.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2007, 06:59:16 AM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.

What's your point?  Secondhand smoke is harmful and not at all good for you.  That's a no-brainer.  Who cares exactly how it's bad for you?

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2007, 07:04:40 AM »
What's your point?  Secondhand smoke is harmful and not at all good for you.  That's a no-brainer.  Who cares exactly how it's bad for you?

they say the same thing about steroids...but look at the current state of bodybuilding..


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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2007, 07:06:45 AM »
Does anyone believe that 2nd hand smoke causes cancer?  If so, let me know and I'll smack you for being a dope.

sure it dose.



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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2007, 09:41:27 AM »
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sure it dose.
Please tell me someone didn't just spell does - dose.
Just when you've think you've seen it all on getbig.com.  A definately or a rediculous, are bad, but passable.  Dose, is just unacceptable.
2nd hand smoke definitely does not cause cancer.  The entire claim is ridiculous. ;)
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2007, 09:46:43 AM »
Please tell me someone didn't just spell does - dose.
Just when you've think you've seen it all on getbig.com.  A definately or a rediculous, are bad, but passable.  Dose, is just unacceptable.
2nd hand smoke definitely does not cause cancer.  The entire claim is ridiculous. ;)

The man who's deathly opposed to tans, implants, steroids and anything deemed 'not natural' smokes.. LOL, priceless.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2007, 09:50:07 AM »
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The man who's deathly opposed to tans, implants, steroids and anything deemed 'not natural' smokes.. LOL, priceless.
Not opposed to tanning, there is no possible way to change pale skin.  Don't smoke, but the 2nd hand smoke crusade is bullshit.
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2007, 09:53:42 AM »
Not opposed to tanning, there is no possible way to change pale skin.  Don't smoke, but the 2nd hand smoke crusade is bullshit.

To each their own, I just don't like standing somewhere and having somebody else's smoke blown in my face, other habits like drinking don't have this problem.. one person drinks, it doesn't affect the person next to them. Smoke by nature spreads in the air.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2007, 10:00:06 AM »
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To each their own, I just don't like standing somewhere and having somebody else's smoke blown in my face, other habits like drinking don't have this problem.. one person drinks, it doesn't affect the person next to them. Smoke by nature spreads in the air.
If I go out and hear a bunch of drunk people acting like douchebags, it does affect me.
I agree 100% though.  Smells like shit, but there is no basis for barring it from restaurants, etc.  There were studies done in 97' which show 2nd smoke to not be cancer causing.  It's basically being passed because smokers are in the minority and most people don't want to smell smoke, that's all.  It's a political move, nothing more.
Dose that make sense?  Dose...oh brother.  I think I spelt does correctly since 4yrs old. ;)
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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2007, 10:27:10 AM »
Can also go to wwwJunkScience.com if anyone is concerned about  just that, junk science. Most of those research lab's depend on government or private grants to stay in business (and it is a business). Most can and will come up with any finding they think the fund givers will agree with. And the few lab's that do not,  are usually ignored or glossed over. Even college lab's come under this negative influence. Political correctness rears it's ugly head again.

Second hand smoke (as well as global warning) fall into the class of not really being sure of any hard evidence, in either case. When you put rats in a small glass booth and pump in layer upon layer of smoke 24/7, the rodents can develop cancer or any other major disease over a period of time. Doesn't even come close (by 10,000  plus times) to what a human may experience being around second hand smoke over a life time.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2007, 10:40:52 AM »
No, you didn't say you were a fuckface, but I'm starting to believe you are. :)

Why do you workout if you drink and smoke every day?

meh..my life...my body..my choice ...

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Re: 2nd hand smoke
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2007, 10:47:53 AM »
Not opposed to tanning, there is no possible way to change pale skin.  Don't smoke, but the 2nd hand smoke crusade is bullshit.

Agreed.
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