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[mroup]

See the problem with this kid is that he is going to do it no matter what you guys say. ( plus most of you guys are sounding like his parents trying scare tactics like " I had a friend who took gear when he was 18 once and now hes all messed up" ) I would love to hear how it was the steroids that "messed him up". I beleive that when you are a teenager you feel invincible and if he is on here asking he is going to do it anyway. I will not give him advice but I sure wish I would have had things like the internet and access to all the good "real" gear that is around today. I started competing as a bodybuilder when I was a teenager and won my state overall and Heavyweight teenage title when I was 19. I didnt take much gear back then but my first cycle was when I was 17. I took 200mg of the old Steris Test Cyp for 10 weeks. I remember I gained like 15lbs by week 6!!! ( I lost all of it after being off for 5 weeks though LOL) I didnt take anything again until I was 19. I took 50 tabs of Anadrol for 7 weeks and gained another 15-20lbs. ( lost that in like 1 week of being off ) I then took another bottle of Cyp 24 weeks out from the show. I started dieting 14 weeks out and took the following  1 10ml vial Test Cyp, 1 10ml vial Test Prop, 1 30ml vial Winstrol V, 50 tabs Anadrol, 40 Nolvadex tabs and about 5 amps of Sten thrown in because I happen to have them. The thing is I had been lifting hard since I was 13 and trained for years drug free. I came into that show at 5'9" 181lbs at 4% bodyfat and won hands down. ( the show was a national qualifier and very well known ) I also was squating about 405lbs for deep reps of 10 then, Bench Pressing 405lbs for sets of 8-10 and 315lbs for 15reps. Shoudler Dumbbell presses with 120lbs for sets of 10 reps. So I was very strong from years of hard ass training and was surronded by hardcore competitors that gave me good guidance. I dont feel that steroid use in teens if done the way I did is bad. The High School I went to and the friends I hung out with where all very big in BB. My best friend from HS is a Pro BB currently and just competed in the Olympia. So to the kids question it just depends. Most young guys dont have a clue and should never take anything because they are to imature and uninformed.

[leonp1981]

...I dont feel that steroid use in teens if done the way I did is bad...

You say earlier in your post that you lost all of your gains from your first two experiences, so do you not regret that at all?

On topic, I agree with the guy who said sell them fakes.  Get some vitamins, or trib, or arginine, or anything like that, stick it in some small plastic bags, and sell it to them.  They obviously don't know what they're looking for anyway, so as long as you're quite good at acting, you'll be alright.  That way they think they're 'juiced' and you make some cash!!

[BigNBloated]

Selling them fake gear is really fucking dumb, even if its vitamins or some shit. You can get in trouble for that just like if you sold fake crack or coke or something, bad idea. their parents find that shit and tell the police or something parents like to do and your gonna have to deal with a bunch of unwanted shit.

[bigguns175]

LOL, i doubt the penalties if any of selling them vitamins or amino acids or creatine will get him in anywhere near the trouble it would selling them a real steroid.  And in the end, if he ever got caught which I doubt most people in high school don't taddle or they just lie, but when he tells him why he did it that he didn't want them to get hurt taking the real stuff and lays the sad sap story on them, he will be looked at like a hero.  Just make sure to give them something they can take a lot of without O.D.ing because you know how teens are you tell them take 3 a day and i bet ya they will take 6.

[trulytoned]

i doubt the penalties if any of selling them vitamins or amino acids or creatine will get him in anywhere near the trouble it would selling them a real steroid. 

Actually if you were to put it in a steriod bottle and tell them they were steriods when you sold them the penalty would most likely be the same.

[gtbro1]

Actually if you were to put it in a steriod bottle and tell them they were steriods when you sold them the penalty would most likely be the same.

It is the exact same penalty. I know a guy who went to prison selling fake shit. It is the intent. Selling grass(I mean regular grass like in your yard is just the same as selling marijuana if you are telling the person that it is marijuana.

[bigguns175]

LoL, wow that is fucked up.  Intent that is total bullshit.  My intent was to sell fake shit that doesn't harm people and that is what I did.  Pish what if I said really quietly when I was selling that it was fake or had my fingers crossed or was like hey man you want to buy some grass and he thought I was talking about weed but I meant grass. huh huh lol I know I'm just being an idiot now but that is ridiculous.  Especially when it is a civil sale.  It isn't like were a big company that lies about what we are selling...wait isn't that every supplement company....

I'm so enraged right now, I'm sure there is some loopholes though to get around this but none the less, hey the kid always has age working behind him though he is a juvenile can't be too harsh.

[BigNBloated]

It is the exact same penalty. I know a guy who went to prison selling fake shit. It is the intent. Selling grass(I mean regular grass like in your yard is just the same as selling marijuana if you are telling the person that it is marijuana.

Exactly, you intended to sell them as drugs, and the police could try and make an example out of you. Just because its fake doesnt mean a bit of diff. Palumbo was selling fake GH, they didnt cut him any breaks because it wasnt real although thats an entirely diff level of what were talking about, just bringing it up to support the point being made.

[gtbro1]

Exactly, you intended to sell them as drugs, and the police could try and make an example out of you. Just because its fake doesnt mean a bit of diff. Palumbo was selling fake GH, they didnt cut him any breaks because it wasnt real although thats an entirely diff level of what were talking about, just bringing it up to support the point being made.

Like I said I know a guy got 6 years for selling fake shit.

[BigNBloated]

Thats some awful shit. Sometimes I think we need to assess our drug laws. Six years of your life for selling some dope, thats fucking insane. Government officials are out of their mind and still beleive we need to be more harsh to criminals. We gonna start hangin people again for theft or selling some drugs. Its one thing if your a big ass dealer and an entirely diff thing if your just slingin some weed. I dont know the details but i doubt your buddy deserved to spend 6 years of his life in prison for whatever he did.

[gtbro1]

Thats some awful shit. Sometimes I think we need to assess our drug laws. Six years of your life for selling some dope, thats fucking insane. Government officials are out of their mind and still beleive we need to be more harsh to criminals. We gonna start hangin people again for theft or selling some drugs. Its one thing if your a big ass dealer and an entirely diff thing if your just slingin some weed. I dont know the details but i doubt your buddy deserved to spend 6 years of his life in prison for whatever he did.

 Well he was dumb enough to sell to an undercover cop.

[BigNBloated]

Well he was dumb enough to sell to an undercover cop.

I guess thats the idea, how you gonna know? Not like its obvious hes a narc ass cop otherwise people wouldnt get busted.