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Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« on: January 15, 2007, 01:39:24 PM »
interesting....

Now that Bush has delivered Kristol’s speech, we can expect a full-court press in the corporate media to demonize Iran in preparation for an attack against that country.

“U.S. officials tell CBS News that American forces have begun an aggressive and mostly secret ground campaign against networks of Iranians that had been operating with virtual impunity inside Iraq,” CBS News reports, or rather reads from the neocon script.

“According to U.S. military figures, 198 American and British soldiers have been killed, and more than 600 wounded by advanced explosive devices manufactured in Iran and smuggled in through the southern marshes and along the Tigris River. Attempts to disrupt these networks, combined with the decision to send a second aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf as a warning to Iran, significantly raises the stakes, according to former Assistant Secretary of State Martin Indyk.”

Indyk is a prominent Israel Firster. He “served” as U.S. ambassador to Israel, directs the rabidly pro-Israel Saban Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings, and is a member of the Middle East Strategy Group klatsch at the neolib Aspen Institute, where he rubs elbows with Henry Kissinger and Dianne Feinstein. Aspen is a pet project of the Rockefeller brothers and the Ford Foundation.

As it turns out, these “advanced explosive devices” are from Britain, not Iran. Back in October of 2005, the Independent reported “soldiers, who were targeted by insurgents as they traveled through [Iraq], died after being attacked with bombs triggered by infra-red beams. The bombs were developed by the IRA using technology passed on by the security services in a botched ’sting’ operation more than a decade ago…. This contradicts the British government’s claims that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard is helping Shia insurgents to make the devices.”

The Independent on Sunday can also reveal that the bombs and the firing devices used to kill the soldiers, as well as two private security guards, were initially created by the UK security services as part of a counter-terrorism strategy at the height of the troubles in the early 1990s.

According to security sources, the technology for the bombs used in the attacks, which were developed using technology from photographic flash units, was employed by the IRA some 15 years ago after Irish terrorists were given advice by British agents.

In fact, the devices were made in America. “In late 1993 and early 1994, I went to America with officers from MI5, the FRU and RUC special branch. They had already sourced the transmitters and receivers in New York following liaison with their counterparts in the FBI,” Kevin Fulton, who infiltrated the IRA in the Newry area while being handled by the Force Research Unit, told the Sunday Tribune in June, 2002. Fulton’s trip was confirmed by the FBI, according to Matthew Teague, writing for the Atlantic. The Independent on Sunday “has also spoken to a republican who was a senior IRA member in the early 1990s. He confirmed that Mr. Fulton had introduced the IRA to the new technology and that the IRA shared this with ‘like-minded organizations abroad.’”

“Since its founding in 1997, the Real IRA has been fully infiltrated by British intelligence—MI5,” writes Paul Joseph Watson in his book, Order Out of Chaos. The “Real IRA,” or “True IRA,” consisted of “disaffected IRA members,” in other words, it was created by British intelligence as a way to discredit and demonize the Provisional IRA. “In June 2003 raids, Irish national police interdicted two large-scale vehicle-born improvised explosive devices, each weighing more than 1,000 lbs,” according to FAS.

Of course, all of this has since found its way to the memory hole, as did the fact Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, provided by the United States prior to Bush Senior’s invasion, were systematically destroyed by the United Nations Special Commission in the 1990s. Depending on amnesia and selective omission, the corporate media, guided by the perfidious neocons, are in the process of creating likewise fairy tales to lay the foundation for an attack against Iran.

Iran’s alleged possession and use of IEDs made in America will, according to Israel Firster Martin Indyk, have “some rather serious consequences,” in other words, plenty of Iranians will die as a result.

In preparation of the coming attack, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the neocons will “make certain that we disrupt activities that are endangering and killing our troops, and that are destabilizing Iraq,” while refusing to state specifically if the United States will “take action” against Iran.

Instead, the United States needs to “solidify the consensus” and focus on the “regional aggression of Iran” as it supposedly engages “in activities that endanger our troops.” In fact, it is the Iraqi resistance that endangers “our troops,” not the Iranians.

During an interview with the Bush Ministry of Disinformation, otherwise known as Fox News, Condi the Destroyer said the United States “is not going to simply stand idly by and let these activities continue.” IEDs made in the United States, with the help of Britain, a loyal and able co-conspirator, will naturally facilitate the process.

Recall Bush and his eager cohort, Tony Blair, discussing “three possible ways” to provoke confrontation with the Saddam Hussein. Bush’s “first suggestion was to fly U-2 spy aircraft over Iraq painted in United Nations colors,” writes Ehsan Ahrari for the Asia Times.

David Manning, Blair’s chief foreign policy adviser at the time, wrote a memo detailing the discussion of such dirty tricks. “The memo reports Bush as saying, ‘If Saddam fired on them he would be in breach.’ His second suggestion was to bring out Iraqi defectors, who would give public testimony about Saddam’s supposed weapons of mass destruction. His third proposal was to assassinate the Iraqi dictator.”

As we now know, the second “suggestion” was milked for all it was worth, that is to say it was transparently worthless, as many of us insisted at the time.

For the warmongering neocons, all the pieces are falling into place. As noted by neocon enablers at the New York Times, Bush and Rice are following the script, making sure to mention “evidence” of the supposed “increasing lethality in what [the Iranians] were producing.”

Rice, according to the Times, “was referring to what American military officials say is evidence that many of the most sophisticated improvised explosive devices, or I.E.D.’s, being used against American troops were made in Iran…. Ms. Rice’s willingness to discuss the issue seemed to reflect a new hostility to Iran that was first evident in Mr. Bush’s speech to the nation on Wednesday night, in which he accused Tehran of providing material support for attacks on American troops and vowed to respond.”

In fact, this “new hostility” is hardly new, as it reflects years of neocon duplicity and scheming.

It appears the universal fascist and Mussolini admirer, Michael Ledeen, will finally get his way.

Last November, Ledeen wrote that Bush “knows we are at war with Iran, but has chosen—wrongly, in my opinion (but then I wasn’t elected either)—to delay our response.” Actually, Ledeen, or more specifically chosen members of the neocon cabal, were “elected,” or rather appointed, and Bush, their ventriloquist dummy, now agrees “the real war is a regional war, and most likely a world war…. The first step is to embrace the unpleasant fact that we are at war with Iran, and it is long past time to respond.”

Thus the neocons fine tune their casus belli while the American people slumber their way into World War Four, as the neocons would have it. Under CONPLAN 8022, now operational, nuclear preemptive strikes are the order of the day and you can bet the farm the demented neocons, who have managed so far to kill more than a half million Iraqis, will embrace this “doctrine,” actually an egregious war crime of historical proportion.

Addendum

“Commenting about the briefing on MSNBC after Bush’s nationwide address, NBC’s Washington bureau chief Tim Russert said ‘there’s a strong sense in the upper echelons of the White House that Iran is going to surface relatively quickly as a major issue—in the country and the world—in a very acute way,’” writes Robert Parry. “Russert and NBC anchor Brian Williams depicted this White House emphasis on Iran as the biggest surprise from the briefing as Bush stepped into the meeting to speak passionately about why he is determined to prevail in the Middle East.”

It shouldn’t come as a surprise, as the neocons have talked about taking out Arab and Muslim nations one by one for years now. But then, of course, Russert and Williams work for General Electric News, that is to say NBC (as a death merchant, GE manufactures jet engines for Boeing and Lockheed Martin), and GE stands to make a bundle on the mass murder adventures of the neocons.

“While avoiding any overt criticism of Bush’s comments about an imaginary Iraqi-Iranian arms race, Russert suggested that the news executives found the remarks perplexing,” Parry notes. Naturally, Russert would dare not bite the hand that feeds, or would he walk a gang plank and bring his career to an end, never mind it might make a difference of life and death for thousands of Iranians.

“That’s the way he sees the world,” Russert explained. “His rationale, he believes, for going into Iraq still was one that was sound.”

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews then interjected, “And it could be the rationale for going into Iran at some point.”

Russert paused for a few seconds before responding, “It’s going to be very interesting to watch that issue and we have to cover it very, very carefully and very exhaustively.”

Indeed, it will be “very interesting,” as the hotel rooftop coverage of the bombing of Baghdad was “interesting,” never mind the wanton slaughter of children and grandmothers.

Of course, GE News and the rest of the corporate media will cover the invasion of Iran “very, very carefully and very exhaustively,” that is they will make it a 24-7 spectacle devoid of any objective fact telling or commentary, as usual.

“While some observers believe Israel or the Bush administration may be leaking details of the plans as a way to frighten Iran into accepting international controls on its nuclear program, other sources indicate that the preparations for a wider Middle Eastern war are very serious and moving very quickly,” concludes Parry.

No doubt such “observers” live on another planet or are trapped in another dimension. Even a cursory examination of the neocon ideology and their public statements reveal they are determined to instigate World War Four, basically a hyper effort to kill hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of Muslims, as dictated by the “clash of civilizations” criminal philosophy.

Naturally, we can ignore Russert and Williams. Unfortunately, plenty of blindsided and hoodwinked Americans are unable to see through the fakery and pretend surprise of such talking heads, essentially mouthpieces for the neocons.

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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2007, 01:47:14 PM »
War is big business now.

We're not "saving" anyone, and we're initiating contact in every case.  Examples:

Afghanistan - tried to turn over Osama - we refused and chose war.

Iraq - tried to agree to UN sanctions, and we launched war.

Iran - trying to have talks with the US.  We're refusing and surrounding their nation with carriers and forces, and telling the world how bad they are.



You can agree with it or disagree with it - but for anyone here to ever say "We only use war as a last resort" is a f'king douche, and is outright wrong.   These wars are ELECTIVE in that - THEY WANT THEM.

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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2007, 02:25:08 PM »
Afghanistan - tried to turn over Osama - we refused and chose war.


did they try to turn him over after 9/11???  NO


Iraq - tried to agree to UN sanctions, and we launched war.


he broke 17 resolutions over how many years??  we was not "trying" to agree to anything.  he was playing a game.  it's what dictators like him do.


Iran - trying to have talks with the US.  We're refusing and surrounding their nation with carriers and forces, and telling the world how bad they are.

please tell me your are not defending iran. 
you cannot talk and make "deals" with this nutbag from iran.  they don't understand that.  did he not tell the US a few weeks ago that he would destroy us?  now he's buddy-buddy with that clown from Venezuela. 
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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 02:38:46 PM »
Afghanistan - tried to turn over Osama - we refused and chose war.
did they try to turn him over after 9/11???  NO

Yes.  With proof of involvement in 9/11, they said they'd deliver his dead body, or deliver his coordinates so we could take him alive.  Without any proof, they offered to turn him over to the Hauge for a world trial immediately.  (remember - we had unsuccessfully negotiated with taleban for oil pipeline right up til july 01)

Please look this up - they offered him and we declined.

Iraq - tried to agree to UN sanctions, and we launched war.
he broke 17 resolutions over how many years??  we was not "trying" to agree to anything.  he was playing a game.  it's what dictators like him do.

With 24 hours left on our 48 hour deadline, he folded.  Called the UN and said they could do anything they want, he surrenders.  We responded by putting a JDAM into the building where that call originated.  nice?

Iran - trying to have talks with the US.  We're refusing and surrounding their nation with carriers and forces, and telling the world how bad they are.
please tell me your are not defending iran. 
you cannot talk and make "deals" with this nutbag from iran.  they don't understand that.  did he not tell the US a few weeks ago that he would destroy us?  now he's buddy-buddy with that clown from Venezuela. 

Please tell me why we cannot deal with him.  The USSR was far more dangerous and far more power driven, and we neg'tiated with them successfully for 40 years.  When you say "they don't understand deals", where do you get that information?  From Bush, who is very excited about war there?

Fact of the matter is - and i'm not defending them, so don't go down that route - Iran didn't even START a nuke program until we invaded their neighbors on both sides and labeled them evil and put forces at their borders and shores. 


you're buying Bush's description of iran's actions and intentions, just like we all bought Bush's WMD speech.  He has offered to debate and deal with us.  What do we have to lose by talks? 


it's insane that two nations with nukes (us and maybe them) wouldn't have a conversation before going to war, isn't it?

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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 03:13:50 PM »
240, i think you are wrong. 
back when clinton was in office they 2 opportunities that i know about to get bin laden.  once when he was with some saudi prince,  they didn't want to kill the prince so they done nothing.  the second was when the drone found him at some al-quada camp and for some reason they didn't get him. 
i don't believe they offered bin-laden AFTER 9/11 and we refused.  that's insane

i never heard of saddam surrendering at anytime, but i could be wrong.  if he did, i don't believe he had a change of heart.  he's a liar, i wouldn't have believed him anyway

you honestly think iran didn't start a nuke program until we invaded iraq??
come on
"ok guys, we really don't need nuclear weapons so let's just remain a sitting duck for israel, russia, china and the US."
"but sir, the US just invaded iraq."
"oh, crap.  we better start splitting atoms."


we bluffed the s**t out of russia over the years, so maybe that's what we're doing now to iran.  give it some time.  don't assume war,war war.

bush and half the world knew saddam had WMD's.  he did not make that up. 
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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 03:23:28 PM »
bush and half the world knew saddam had WMD's.  he did not make that up. 

Yeao ok  ::)

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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 03:29:36 PM »
i don't believe they offered bin-laden AFTER 9/11 and we refused.  that's insane

New offer on Bin Laden
Minister makes secret trip to offer trial in third country
Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
Wednesday October 17, 2001
The Guardian

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night. For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.

But US officials appear to have dismissed the proposal and are instead hoping to engineer a split within the Taliban leadership.
The offer was brought by Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, the Taliban foreign minister and a man who is often regarded as a more moderate figure in the regime.

He met officials from the CIA and Pakistan's ISI intelligence directorate in Islamabad on Monday. US officials pressed the minister for a sweeping change in the regime. "They are trying to persuade him to get the moderate elements together," another source said.

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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 06:01:06 PM »
where did you get that bogus crap??
i've been on the net for an hour now trying to find ANYTHING to validate your "news" story. 
Nothing.
Below is 3 articles about osama.  nothing about turning him over post 9/11.
i could have given you a thousand more


http://www.prisonplanet.com/us_missed_three_chances_to_seize_bin_laden.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A61251-2001Oct2
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,186625,00.html
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Re: Iran’s IEDs: Made in America
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 06:27:49 PM »
Yeao ok  ::)
We know who was getting their news from Fox :D