Funny thing about our enemies...

[BRUCE]

Beach Bum,

How do you define a 'neoconservative'?

You seem to label anyone that disagrees with you this, just as you called me 'right-wing' 

[Dos Equis]

Beach Bum,

How do you define a 'neoconservative'?

I don't.  Not a part of my vocabulary.  I don't think I've ever used the term.  But I know how many others use it.  

[Dos Equis]

You seem to label anyone that disagrees with you this, just as you called me 'right-wing' 

Ding!   

[240 is Back]

I don't.  Not a part of my vocabulary.  I don't think I've ever used the term.  But I know how many others use it.  

Why would you engage in a discussion on a word that you cannot define?

[Dos Equis]

Why would you engage in a discussion on a word that you cannot define?

"But I know how many others use it."  And you and Berserker engaged me.    

[240 is Back]

"But I know how many others use it."  And you and Berserker engaged me.    

So you defended and/or attacked the definition of the word before forming your own opinion on its definition.

Do you frequently engage in debates where you have no idea what your position is?

[Dos Equis]

So you defended and/or attacked the definition of the word before forming your own opinion on its definition.

Do you frequently engage in debates where you have no idea what your position is?

I too frequently answer your dumb questions.  That's for sure.     Quit trying to act like an intellectual.  Stick with your multiple conspiracy theories, like the faked moon landing, the 93 WTC, Oklahoma City, 9/11, etc., etc, etc.

[BRUCE]

I too frequently answer your dumb questions.  That's for sure.     Quit trying to act like an intellectual.  Stick with your multiple conspiracy theories, like the faked moon landing, the 93 WTC, Oklahoma City, 9/11, etc., etc, etc.

Oh brother  , monster paranoia.  How does this guy sleep at night with all the unsolved mysteries to expose?!!

[Dos Equis]

Oh brother  , monster paranoia.  How does this guy sleep at night with all the unsolved mysteries to expose?!!

I think it does indeed take a paranoid mind to believe in all of those purported conspiracies. 

[BRUCE]

I think it does indeed take a paranoid mind to believe in all of those purported conspiracies. 

It's an element of self-importance also.  Rob honestly believes he's a step ahead of the heavy mouth breathing masses, which are too busy consuming to notice these amazing conspiracies happening right under our noses.  Little does he know, he's actually exposing himself for those things he accuses our would-be conspirators guilty of.......

[240 is Back]

No, it takes an open mind to analyze events, take note when those doing the investigation also have the most to gain from the events, and looking at the evidence.


No offense, but anyone who believes the "official story" on Oklahoma city is F*cking retarded.  only way to put it.  The feds carried out two undetonated bombs, planted inside the building, in front of all the TV cameras.  FEMA wrote all about the details.

Then, the next day, those bombs no longer existed.  Cleared from record, never mentioned in court.



So yes, there were add'l bombs planted in the building, and yes, they were quietly dropped.  So yes, there was a coverup to some extent, and since it involved more than one man, it was, by definition, a conspiracy.  

To deny a conspiracy here - where bombs disappeared - shows you are truly an idiot.  Sorry, but it's true.  Not placing blame on any group - but to deny there was a cover up is to ignore the facts.

[240 is Back]

It's an element of self-importance also.  Rob honestly believes he's a step ahead of the heavy mouth breathing masses, which are too busy consuming to notice these amazing conspiracies happening right under our noses.  Little does he know, he's actually exposing himself for those things he accuses our would-be conspirators guilty of.......

Believe what you want.  We faked the gulf of tonken.  Declassified documents prove it.  This shit happens.  For years, people accused the govt of lying about it, and for years, they were called crazy.  Then, they were proven right, and all those people who called them crazy all those years... well, they just shut up.

[Hugo Chavez]

I don't.  Not a part of my vocabulary.  I don't think I've ever used the term.  But I know how many others use it.  

Beach makes his own reality...  who are we to get in the way of his delusions

[Dos Equis]

It's an element of self-importance also.  Rob honestly believes he's a step ahead of the heavy mouth breathing masses, which are too busy consuming to notice these amazing conspiracies happening right under our noses.  Little does he know, he's actually exposing himself for those things he accuses our would-be conspirators guilty of.......

And one of the most bizarre things is the fact he ridicules people who DON'T believe in this nonsense. 

[Dos Equis]

Beach makes his own reality...  who are we to get in the way of his delusions

Hahaha!!  Says the mean who believes multiple governments are planning the end of the world.  hee hee hee.  You make me laugh man.     [Oops.  One of my assistants just asked me why I was laughing.   ]  Hey did you build your end-of-the-world bunker yet? 

[240 is Back]

And one of the most bizarre things is the fact he ridicules people who DON'T believe in this nonsense. 

nah, it's people who will dismiss my posts without looking at the facts.

BB, you call me out for the OKC beliefs.

What explanation do you have for the giant bombs removed in front of the TV cameras which disappeared from the court records?  Why do audio recordings have TWO giant blasts, and seismic records do too?   Why was McVeigh videotaped on a military base, doing spec ops for a bombing unit, 15 months after the Army said he was discharged?

See, I post and ask for explanations.  none come.  Instead, just mockery.  however, for anyone else reading this, they look at what we post.  I post facts which I can back up with evidence.  You don't even address them, because any one of them destroys the official story for that event.



History will prove me right on OKC.  A republican congress just reprimanded the FBI for ignoring evidence on OKC.  A repub congressman is opening a new investigation.  He believes it was an inside job.

So are you gonna address facts, or just hurl insults?

[Hugo Chavez]

CONNOTATION.  Obviously a typo.   Grammar Nazi.     Good thing I didn't send you a bill.
 
"240 and I are quite surgical with our use of the term . . ."  Bwahahahaha!!!  Now that is the funniest thing I've heard all day.   

Please quote where we used the term out of context provided by popular definition as outlined by us... Unless you can do that, you're talking out your arse as usual.  Oh and that was one hell of a typo, it wasn't even close: connotation vs. connation  Don't call me a grammar nazi, you're the one that got on your high horse and told me to look up terms everyone knows the meaning of.  If you're going to send me marching off to the dictionary, you better be spelling it right   Other than that, I make mistakes all the time, this is just a message board but you bought this one

[Hugo Chavez]

Hahaha!!  Says the mean who believes multiple governments are planning the end of the world.  hee hee hee.  You make me laugh man.     [Oops.  One of my assistants just asked me why I was laughing.   ]  Hey did you build your end-of-the-world bunker yet? 

The big difference is, I prefaced that thinking by noting it was extreme thinking and that I did not expect people to follow Nice of you to conveniently leave that little fact out

[Dos Equis]

nah, it's people who will dismiss my posts without looking at the facts.

BB, you call me out for the OKC beliefs.

What explanation do you have for the giant bombs removed in front of the TV cameras which disappeared from the court records?  Why do audio recordings have TWO giant blasts, and seismic records do too?   Why was McVeigh videotaped on a military base, doing spec ops for a bombing unit, 15 months after the Army said he was discharged?

See, I post and ask for explanations.  none come.  Instead, just mockery.  however, for anyone else reading this, they look at what we post.  I post facts which I can back up with evidence.  You don't even address them, because any one of them destroys the official story for that event.



History will prove me right on OKC.  A republican congress just reprimanded the FBI for ignoring evidence on OKC.  A repub congressman is opening a new investigation.  He believes it was an inside job.

So are you gonna address facts, or just hurl insults?

I chose "hurl insults."     *insert Twilight Zone theme*

[240 is Back]

I chose "hurl insults."     *insert Twilight Zone theme*

 











 

[BRUCE]

nah, it's people who will dismiss my posts without looking at the facts.

BB, you call me out for the OKC beliefs.

What explanation do you have for the giant bombs removed in front of the TV cameras which disappeared from the court records?  Why do audio recordings have TWO giant blasts, and seismic records do too?   Why was McVeigh videotaped on a military base, doing spec ops for a bombing unit, 15 months after the Army said he was discharged?

See, I post and ask for explanations.  none come.  Instead, just mockery.  however, for anyone else reading this, they look at what we post.  I post facts which I can back up with evidence.  You don't even address them, because any one of them destroys the official story for that event.



History will prove me right on OKC.  A republican congress just reprimanded the FBI for ignoring evidence on OKC.  A repub congressman is opening a new investigation.  He believes it was an inside job.

So are you gonna address facts, or just hurl insults?

Yawn.  So the FBI can pull off killing dozens of innocent people without anyone noticing, but freely allows you to expose their devious scheme on an internet website

To call anyone that doesn't buy into your needlessly elaborate conspiracy theories an idiot is unwarranted, offensive and an attempt to stifle debate.

[Dos Equis]

Please quote where we used the term out of context provided by popular definition as outlined by us... Unless you can do that, you're talking out your arse as usual.  Oh and that was one hell of a typo, it wasn't even close: connotation vs. connation  Don't call me a grammar nazi, you're the one that got on your high horse and told me to look up terms everyone knows the meaning of.  If you're going to send me marching off to the dictionary, you better be spelling it right   Other than that, I make mistakes all the time, this is just a message board but you bought this one

Ding ding ding!  Hey we agree on something.    You of all people should not be correcting anyone's grammar.  I made a mistake.  Trying to multi-task.  It can be very difficult to slap you around and manage a business at the same time.  Challenging.  

Several on this board, particularly you and 240, have used the term "neocon" to describe basically any Republican or conservative, especially those who disagree with you.  That's where the "CONNOTATIVE meaning" comes from.    

[240 is Back]

Yawn.  So the FBI can pull off killing dozens of innocent people without anyone noticing, but freely allows you to expose their devious scheme on an internet website

To call anyone that doesn't buy into your needlessly elaborate conspiracy theories an idiot is unwarranted, offensive and an attempt to stifle debate.

Who said anything about the FBI?  I am not accusing any group of any wrongdoing.  It's wrong for me to do that, and I intend not to.

I am pointing out evidence, and emphasizing the need for a second investigation.

You're not looking at the evidence - you're looking at "whether people would be allowed to put up websites about it".  And it was 168 killed there.  


Facts are facts - Congress said the FBi failed to follow up on certain evidence.  The place was leveled with no forensic analysis.  I could list a dozen more, but it matters naught.  You won't research what i've said so far.

The good news it, people in OK are moving legislation to have it re-opened.  *IF* there was any criminal activity on anyone besides those convicted, and it comes out, great.  At the very least, it should explain just where those two large pesky bombs went.

[240 is Back]

Several on this board, particularly you and 240, have used the term "neocon" to describe basically any Republican or conservative, especially those who disagree with you.  

I've posted MANY times about the split in the repub party between the moderate repubs and the neocons.

You're wrong

[BRUCE]

Who said anything about the FBI?  I am not accusing any group of any wrongdoing.  It's wrong for me to do that, and I intend not to.

I am pointing out evidence, and emphasizing the need for a second investigation.

You're not looking at the evidence - you're looking at "whether people would be allowed to put up websites about it".  And it was 168 killed there.  


Facts are facts - Congress said the FBi failed to follow up on certain evidence.  The place was leveled with no forensic analysis.  I could list a dozen more, but it matters naught.  You won't research what i've said so far.

The good news it, people in OK are moving legislation to have it re-opened.  *IF* there was any criminal activity on anyone besides those convicted, and it comes out, great.  At the very least, it should explain just where those two large pesky bombs went.

What a weak response.  You claim somone, who now you won't name, consipired to kill the 168 people you mention.  Then you claim I ignore evidence, when you yourself completely ignore the (entirely conclusive) evidence presented to you that Timothy McVeigh was actually responsible.  Sigh, you are a lost cause, I only hope everyone else notices your many incosistencies and fact-bendings.