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Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« on: January 19, 2007, 05:21:33 AM »
by Kavan Peterson
A little-noticed change in federal law packs an important change in who is in charge the next time a state is devastated by a disaster such as Hurricane Katrina.
To the dismay of the nation’s governors, the White House now will be empowered to go over a governor’s head and call up National Guard troops to aid a state in time of natural disasters or other public emergencies. Up to now, governors were the sole commanders in chief of citizen soldiers in local Guard units during emergencies within the state.

A conflict over who should control Guard units arose in the days after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. President Bush sought to federalize control of Guardsmen in Louisiana in the chaos after the hurricane, but Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) refused to relinquish command.

Over objections from all 50 governors, Congress in October changed the 200-year-old Insurrection Act to empower the hand of the president in future stateside emergencies. In a letter to Congress, the governors called the change "a dramatic expansion of federal authority during natural disasters that could cause confusion in the command-and-control of the National Guard and interfere with states' ability to respond to natural disasters within their borders."

The change adds to tensions between governors and the White House after more than four years of heavy federal deployment of state-based Guard forces to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since the 2001 terrorist attacks, four out of five guardsmen have been sent overseas in the largest deployment of the National Guard since World War II. Shortage of the Guard’s military equipment -- such as helicopters to drop hay to snow-stranded cattle in Colorado -- also is a nagging issue as much of units’ heavy equipment is left overseas and unavailable in case of a natural disaster at home.

A bipartisan majority of both chambers of Congress adopted the change as part of the budget-busting, 439-page, $538 billion 2007 so-called Defense Authorization Bill signed into law last October.

cont... http://www.progress.org/2007/ussr03.htm

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 06:02:42 AM »
slowly but surely :)

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 06:05:30 AM »
Fuck fuck fuck...

I'm seriously considering a move out of the US.

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 06:08:15 AM »
remember when Bush/CHeney assumed control of the Flight shootdown control?

2 months later, 911 happened and the generals were powerless to shoot down planes heading for buildings while Bush and Cheney wouldn't give the order.

Perhaps the state militias will have an issue in the coming months and the governors will be powerless to act in some capacity?

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2007, 06:10:57 AM »
Hopefully it's while I'm in CO on business. I fcking hate living in NY.

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2007, 06:11:56 AM »
Hhaha..Hey Beserk I will need ur guns and stuff and ur papers as well. 240 u'll be getting on the truck..I hear Alaska is nice this time of year.  :P
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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2007, 06:14:56 AM »
remember when Bush/CHeney assumed control of the Flight shootdown control?

2 months later, 911 happened and the generals were powerless to shoot down planes heading for buildings while Bush and Cheney wouldn't give the order.

Perhaps the state militias will have an issue in the coming months and the governors will be powerless to act in some capacity?

Umm. Norad still is control over American air space.
http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/timeline7.html

Officers at the Northeast Air Defence Sector had still not heard from FAA headquarters. At 9:08 am, Mission Crew Commander Kevin Nasypany began improvising the air defence of North America. "There were a lot of things going through my mind whether I was going to have to force an aircraft down was I going to have to shoot it down? My whole goal is to stop what's happening," recalls Nasypany. "People loose track of how much chaos there was. We were in a situation that was just a mess, you know, and we were trying to get our arms around it a little bit," says Duffy.

 Things were about to get worse. Shortly after 9 am, American Airlines realized that another of their planes, Flight 77, was probably hijacked. Again, relaying the news to the U.S. military would be delayed this time by half an hour. Lt .Colonel Steve O'Brien of the Minnesota Air National Guard happened to be in the Washington area that day. He took off from Andrews Air Force Base at 9:30 in a C-130 cargo plane. Unaware of what was going on, he was pointing out the sights of the national capital to his crew. Then, air traffic controllers asked him to look out for the American Airlines plane. In fact, the hijacked aircraft was about to collide with him. "At that time, we had been converging to the point where he had started to roll up into a forty-five degree bank turn and was almost filling up our entire windscreen. It was fairly close. I would say within a half mile or so. Then maybe five, ten seconds later they came back and asked us if we still had him in sight and if we did they'd like us to follow the aircraft. That was strange, because I've never in twenty-something years of flying have I been asked to follow an aircraft, especially a commercial aircraft," says O'Brien.

American Airlines Flight 77 would crash into the Pentagon at 9:37 am. O'Brien witnessed the crash from the air, " We saw the explosion and I knew right away what had happened. The way it hit the Pentagon, it didn't look like it was an accident. I mean most pilots, if they've got an emergency going on in their aircraft, they are going to do everything they can to avoid populated areas, certainly avoid hitting a big building if they can."
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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2007, 06:16:58 AM »
Hhaha..Hey Beserk I will need ur guns and stuff and ur papers as well. 240 u'll be getting on the truck..I hear Alaska is nice this time of year.  :P
I've thought about Alaska and was raised that they'll take my guns only over my dead body.

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2007, 06:18:56 AM »
Ok but it may come down to ur love of Chavez or ur guns..or its off to the gulag for u. NO STAMPS FOR U ;D
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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2007, 06:23:16 AM »
Lt .Colonel Steve O'Brien of the Minnesota Air National Guard happened to be in the Washington area that day

Joker, you can't stop talking about how worthless firefighter testimony is, and how WTC should focus entirely on sciene.

THEN you make the pentagon attack - entirely NOT backed up with science or video evidence - based upon the testimony of military men.

(ya know, if a missile hit the building, i'm not sure a Lt. is the most unbiased guy out there).

Why is it that you ignore the 42 firefighters who said there were bombs, but all you need is a military man's word to ignore the pentagon oddities?

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2007, 06:39:40 AM »
Ok but it may come down to ur love of Chavez or ur guns..or its off to the gulag for u. NO STAMPS FOR U ;D
please review my posts on Chavez, you're probably not getting why I like him and to what extent I support him... I'm an American headhunter.  You may critice me for being something of an isolationist but not a traitor to my country.  I do not have to chose between guns and Chavez, that's an incredibly stupid notion...

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2007, 06:40:09 AM »
Get readuy folks something big is going to happen soon :)

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2007, 07:14:00 AM »
Get readuy folks something big is going to happen soon :)

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Storm of the Century :D  I agree, it's coming.... it's like when Sarah rides off toward the mountains... There's a storm coming... I know...

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 07:20:46 AM »
Storm of the Century :D  I agree, it's coming.... it's like when Sarah rides off toward the mountains... There's a storm coming... I know...

Totaly underrated movie great story from King...

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2007, 07:33:49 AM »
Joker, you can't stop talking about how worthless firefighter testimony is, and how WTC should focus entirely on sciene.

THEN you make the pentagon attack - entirely NOT backed up with science or video evidence - based upon the testimony of military men.

(ya know, if a missile hit the building, i'm not sure a Lt. is the most unbiased guy out there).

Why is it that you ignore the 42 firefighters who said there were bombs, but all you need is a military man's word to ignore the pentagon oddities?

I don't ignore the testimony of 42 fire fighters. I combine their testimony with other 1000 witnesses.

BTW the pentagon attack is backed by science. A Plane hit the pentagon. You just don't believe it.
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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 07:41:58 AM »
The sky is falling.   ::)

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2007, 07:56:06 AM »
The sky is falling.   ::)
Why do you disturb yourself by coming here everyday...  It's clear that you have a pretty picture of the world and don't want anything to disturb your matrix...  Why do you bother?  If you wanna live in false reality, it's not going to help you to come here each day and subject yourself to things that disturb you ;D

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2007, 09:24:03 AM »
Why do you disturb yourself by coming here everyday...  It's clear that you have a pretty picture of the world and don't want anything to disturb your matrix...  Why do you bother?  If you wanna live in false reality, it's not going to help you to come here each day and subject yourself to things that disturb you ;D

Easy.  So I can laugh at you and one or two others.   ;D  Laughter is good medicine. 

I could choose to enjoy the great health and this great country, etc. God has blessed me with, or I could be Chicken Little like you.  I choose to be happy.  You should try it.  It's awesome. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2007, 02:14:15 PM »
Easy.  So I can laugh at you and one or two others.   ;D  Laughter is good medicine. 

I could choose to enjoy the great health and this great country, etc. God has blessed me with, or I could be Chicken Little like you.  I choose to be happy.  You should try it.  It's awesome. 
You don't sound like you're enjoying life, you sound like you're stuggling to keep your matrix from melting ;D Funny, you think God blessed you with America ::)  So what, God cursed people born in struggling 3rd world countries ::)  Ok Pat ::)

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2007, 02:32:46 PM »
  I choose to be happy.  You should try it.  It's awesome. 

You're so obviously overcompensating, dude.

What 40 year old man says things like that? 

Just like the closet homosexual that brags to his friends about how much he loves vagina, when a person brags about "how awesome their happiness is"...

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2007, 02:38:04 PM »
LOL.   ;D  Thanks.  You two make me laugh just about every day. 

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2007, 03:50:48 PM »
LOL.   ;D  Thanks.  You two make me laugh just about every day. 
Well I guess since you can never seem to successfuly argue the points, at least you have that...

Beach Bum, the Giggling 40 year old Board Joker... :P

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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2007, 04:01:01 PM »
Well I guess since you can never seem to successfuly argue the points, at least you have that...

Beach Bum, the Giggling 40 year old Board Joker... :P

*giggle*   ;D  Must suck to be you man.  Like my kids say, "put a smile on."   :)  Go outside.  Smell the fresh air (depending on where you live).  Go train and get an endorphin rush (I'll be doing that soon.  It's Friday!).  Go help someone.  Tell a joke.  Read a 240 post.  Listen to Bobby McFerrin.  . . . . You know, I think I'll swap out the Diana Krall currently in my CD player and pop in Bobby McFerrin.  Don't worry.  Be happy.   ;D

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2007, 04:08:21 PM »
Interesting Beserker......


So what does this mean exactly?

What can the president of the United States do with a power like this? 

I'd just like you to put why you think this is very bad into some black and white points.

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Re: Bush Seizes Control Over State Militias
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2007, 04:28:32 PM »
*giggle*  

"put a smile on."  

Listen to Bobby McFerrin

Beach "likes it in the" Bum.