Salary of the Pro's

[Chick]

Exactly, The promoter of any show with a guest posing is GOING to pay the guest poser with a CHECK and that is a paper trail which is reported and TAXED.
However..... I would imagine that a gay-4-pay posing session would be paid in cash as no-one would want a paper trail at either end. Therefore private posing sessions would be tax free.
As far as how much these guys make, I can assure you that they arent making very much at all doing guest posings.
Most local/ regional/state BBing shows can barely even fill an auditorium even 60% full, that will scarcely cover the overhead to rent out the facility. And you think they are going to pay out several thousand$ to a IFBB pro for a 10 min posing routine in the middle of a show? Hell I was at a local show where 4 IFBB pros were posing ... including Gunter and Ronnie....no way enough $$ was generated to pay several thousand to those guys along with the overhead of the Ball room that was rented out...... the promoter would have taken a loss.
BTW... 99% of these guys are DEEP in debt, live WAY beyond their means and live paycheck to paycheck.
If you think Dex owns any of his cars your sadly mistaken.

LOL...

[G o a t b o y]

It's good money but you don't make that amount of money for long, and if you retire at the age of 40 or so, then what are you going to do?? Hopefully they have that figured out.   

The true "stars of the sport", Mr O's and consistent top 5 contenders might have up to an 8 or 10 year run where they're making several hundred thousand dollars a year. If they're smart, and put it away and invest it, they can retire with a couple million invested and live off the returns.  (of course, all bets are off if the dumbasses spend it on "bling" and Bentleys).


The rest of the IFBB pros, even the ones who are hot for a few years, only make enough to support themselves and their lifestyle for the few years they're making money, and when they're done, they're done! No money in the bank, and no visible means of supporting themselves.   

[240 is Back]

One good pro DVD can help a pro score an extra 10k a year alone.

How many DVDs would a pro have to sell to earn $10k?

[Chick]

between 750-1,000

[240 is Back]

between 750-1,000

Dat be a lot of DVDs.

Estimate... how many pros move that many a year?

[realkarateblackbelt]

Aren't Jay's DVDs like 50 dollars? He would only need to sell 200. I'm sure he sells more than that.

[240 is Back]

minus production, advertising costs.

[realkarateblackbelt]

ah.

[bigmikecox]

The Arnold is a big schmoe convention.  Just check out the side of the stage at the Ms. I when the women are coming off and on.  E-mail a pro women bber and tell her you want a session at the Arnold.

[Chick]

minus production, advertising costs.

Exactly...

I'm also ball-parking the estimate...there are a lot of factors, like prod. costs, profit margin, etc....some make more profit and need to sell much less to make up the money.

[Captain Equipoise]

The only 2 people that are making over $200 are Jay and Ronnie.

Didn't Lee Priest disclose his income on here at around $330k or something like that?

[onlyme]

production costs (film, sound and lighting, artwork, editing, reproduction), marketing and advertising costs, distribution costs.  At the end the profit is low in DVD's.  I would think most pros would take a one time buy-out rather than go through the hassle of tracking sales and accounting.

[j3di3]

The basic schmoeconomy is sizable and it's safe to say that it's probably growing. 

There's also 'high schmociety', where top physique models can pick up an easy $10,000-15,000/month, cash. 

And that's just from a single 'sponsor'...

rofl
"schmoeconomy" "high schmociety"

[SWOLETRAIN]

i imagine you have to pay a pretty penny for mits's knee pads.... But I'm sure these guys do fine, the Olympia athletes at least. They're pro bodybuilders for crying out loud! Like a surfer they get to travel compete and do what they love to do. This is not the NFL with millions and millions of fans. In Gustavo's dvd he seems happy, pushes a BMW and has a nice condo in Vegas. Not to mention their wives who also work. If they wanted money they should have went to school and planned to make money outside bodybuilding. dugdale, henry, even Ronnie have ventures outside of bodybuilding. So if they're not making money solely within bodybuilding then their just lazy.

[pushinweightwi]

Why should anyone in the USA pay income tax?  Do you know it is illegal for the US government to collect income tax?

More info:

Stop paying your taxes!  They can't throw everyone in jail and without the 1T per year in revenue, they won't have the power to do much anyway.  Americans should band together to do this.

I work with a guy who did this spent over a million in court/lawyer fees and ended up spending 18 months in club fed.  If we all did it maybe but go it alone and your fucked.  He told me alot of the dificulty is any case where people or companies won were all closed and you could not use prior cases to support yours.

[ali23]

How much do you reckon Jay, Dexter, Victor and Ronnie would earn a year??

What about someone at the other end of the scale, like Jaroslav Horvath, Tommi Thorvildsen, Kris Dim, or Will Harris?

Discuss

why don't you just say how much do you think.. instead of how much you reckon lol.. Australlian lingo=lame

[onlyme]

Why should anyone in the USA pay income tax?  Do you know it is illegal for the US government to collect income tax?

More info:

Stop paying your taxes!  They can't throw everyone in jail and without the 1T per year in revenue, they won't have the power to do much anyway.  Americans should band together to do this.

No it is not a law.  There is no where anywhere written where a person has to pay PERSONAL income tax.  I did the website for the foremost expert on this issue. www.irwinschiff.com  He offers anyone $100,000 to show where it says a person has to pay personal income tax.  Their is NO law and there is NO statute anywhere in the IRS Code book.  In fact he sell more copies of the IRS Code book than anyone else in the world.  He loves to prove there is no law.  What he does is amazing with taxes.  Also, the most recent website is different from the one I did back in 2000.  I did the original.

[tommywishbone]

I heard Gunter was making $350,000 from Weider alone. That Contract came about after the 2002 GNC show.

  I'm not laughing at you, I'm just laughing at the fact that $$ #'s like these are even rumored to exsist.

Weider ain't paying nobody $6,750.00 per week... for anything.

[slaveboy1980]

rofl
"schmoeconomy" "high schmociety"

fuck you i termed it schmoeconomy you fat pig 

[Chick]

  I'm not laughing at you, I'm just laughing at the fact that $$ #'s like these are even rumored to exsist.

Weider ain't paying nobody $6,750.00 per week... for anything.

I wouldn't be laughing too hard...that figure isn't far off. I know that for fact.

[ramazon]

gh15 sponsorted by Arab Oil King
So he has unlimited money now

http://www.oxygengymkuwait.com/

What a spectacular image you've posted here, sushi.  Please tell me who
he is.  Thanks.

[UpTheDosage]

Exactly, The promoter of any show with a guest posing is GOING to pay the guest poser with a CHECK and that is a paper trail which is reported and TAXED.
However..... I would imagine that a gay-4-pay posing session would be paid in cash as no-one would want a paper trail at either end. Therefore private posing sessions would be tax free.
As far as how much these guys make, I can assure you that they arent making very much at all doing guest posings.
Most local/ regional/state BBing shows can barely even fill an auditorium even 60% full, that will scarcely cover the overhead to rent out the facility. And you think they are going to pay out several thousand$ to a IFBB pro for a 10 min posing routine in the middle of a show? Hell I was at a local show where 4 IFBB pros were posing ... including Gunter and Ronnie....no way enough $$ was generated to pay several thousand to those guys along with the overhead of the Ball room that was rented out...... the promoter would have taken a loss.
BTW... 99% of these guys are DEEP in debt, live WAY beyond their means and live paycheck to paycheck.
If you think Dex owns any of his cars your sadly mistaken.

you've done alot of guest posings huh? lol at all promoters are GOING to pay with a CHECK.

[mame09]

this is embarassing that a pro of a 75 year old sport is not making minimum 400k each. at least when a pro from a different sport like football gets injured and cant play anymore they got money to fall on.  look at mike matarazzo he is a repo man and he was a pro bb.

[Tre]

The Arnold is a big schmoe convention.  Just check out the side of the stage at the Ms. I when the women are coming off and on.  E-mail a pro women bber and tell her you want a session at the Arnold.

The women??

Surely you jest.

You're sorely mistaken if you think that session providers are all or even predominantly female.

[Tre]

Are you saying that Tre is part of a contingent of schmoes? 

I'm part of the new breed of schmoes who don't lurk in dark shadows waiting for you to turn around so that our buddies can snap a pic of us copping a feel of your girlfriend's biceps. 

With me, you know what you're getting the moment I walk up to you and introduce myself.