Author Topic: Cutler Vs. Yates (Read 14368 times)

IceCold · « **Reply #100 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:23:03 PM »

cutler has never been close to this level of conditioning.

at times, his hams have been ripped, but not even close.

Royalty · « **Reply #101 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:38:25 PM »

Cutler at 280-290...

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #102 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:42:49 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 28, 2007, 01:38:25 PM

Cutler at 280-290...

Stretched photo.

Looks like ASS regardless

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #103 on:** February 28, 2007, 02:40:13 PM »

Dorian is much better than cutler

pobrecito · « **Reply #104 on:** February 28, 2007, 03:19:23 PM »

Please post pictures of Cutler matching this....but don't embarrass yourself

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #105 on:** February 28, 2007, 03:39:31 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 28, 2007, 12:56:04 PM

Yates look aweful at the 1997 Olympia. Most felt that Nasser won that show. And the 2006 Cutler would CRUSH the 1997 Nasser.

Yates at was never this dry at 275lbs...

Plus Jay is Shorter

agreed nasser won 1997!....as for jay...he is one of the worst mr olympias ever. and jay was never in the same condition as dorian was.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #106 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:27:54 PM »

Quote from: Anal Iceman Lubeth on January 21, 2007, 10:03:49 PM

ya ever notice that with all the bullshit "Ronnie vs. Dorian" threads here, you never hear a thread that compares Yates with Cutler?

If Jay is supposed to be new champ, the one who unseated Ronnie, the best the bodybuilding world has to offer... why is it no one bothers to try to put him on Dorian's pedestal?

(This is just one asian guy's opinion, sorry ronnie)

There'a a very simple explanation for that. Ronnie was unseated because he was almost 43 and off in conditioning. This is about comparing peak forms. At their best, Ronnie and Dorian are so far above Cutler that it isn't even funny. No, seriously, it is cruelty. It isn't even a discussion.

Cutler is slightly bigger than both Ronnie and Dorian at their bests, but that's the only thing that Cutler has on Coleman and Yates. Both Ronnie at 249 lbs and Dorian at 260 lbs - their respective bests - are so much more symmetrical, proportional, hard and have such superior structures than Jay that it is almost like comparing the pros to the amateurs.

Even at his worst, at the 1997 Olympia, Dorian was hard as granite at 270 lbs and had clearly separated abdominals and serratus, besides that his back was more separated, much, much harder and even thicker than Cutler's - only the 2003 Coleman has a back as thick as the 1997 Dorian.

Cutler at only 5 lbs heavier is bloated, soft as marschmellow, has little separations and the worst midsection ever. Arguing Dorian vs Ronnie is acceptable, but Dorian vs Jay is retarded. Sorry.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #107 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:29:39 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on February 28, 2007, 04:27:54 PM

There'a a very simple explanation for that. Ronnie was unseated because he was almost 43 and off in conditioning. This is about comparing peak forms. At their best, Ronnie and Dorian are so far above Cutler that it isn't even funny. No, seriously, it is cruelty. It isn't even a discussion.

Cutler is slightly bigger than both Ronnie and Dorian at their bests, but that's the only thing that Cutler has on Coleman and Yates. Both Ronnie at 249 lbs and Dorian at 260 lbs - their respective bests - are so much more symmetrical, proportional, hard and have such superior structures than Jay that it is almost like comparing the pros to the amateurs.

Even at his worst, at the 1997 Olympia, Dorian was hard as granite at 270 lbs and had clearly separated abdominals and serratus, besides that his back was more separated, much, much harder and even thicker than Cutler's - only the 2003 Coleman has a back as thick as the 1997 Dorian.

Cutler at only 5 lbs heavier is bloated, soft as marschmellow, has little separations and the worst midsection ever. Arguing Dorian vs Ronnie is acceptable, but Dorian vs Jay is retarded. Sorry.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

agreed!

IceCold · « **Reply #108 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:30:48 PM »

contdown to MAXMUSCLE:

5....., 4......... 3,..........2,........

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #109 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:20:52 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on February 28, 2007, 04:27:54 PM

There'a a very simple explanation for that. Ronnie was unseated because he was almost 43 and off in conditioning. This is about comparing peak forms. At their best, Ronnie and Dorian are so far above Cutler that it isn't even funny. No, seriously, it is cruelty. It isn't even a discussion.

Cutler is slightly bigger than both Ronnie and Dorian at their bests, but that's the only thing that Cutler has on Coleman and Yates. Both Ronnie at 249 lbs and Dorian at 260 lbs - their respective bests - are so much more symmetrical, proportional, hard and have such superior structures than Jay that it is almost like comparing the pros to the amateurs.

Even at his worst, at the 1997 Olympia, Dorian was hard as granite at 270 lbs and had clearly separated abdominals and serratus, besides that his back was more separated, much, much harder and even thicker than Cutler's - only the 2003 Coleman has a back as thick as the 1997 Dorian.

Cutler at only 5 lbs heavier is bloated, soft as marschmellow, has little separations and the worst midsection ever. Arguing Dorian vs Ronnie is acceptable, but Dorian vs Jay is retarded. Sorry.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

True, Jay Cutler is the most overrated guy next to Dexter. All Cutler has goin for him is size and popularity.

the shadow · « **Reply #110 on:** March 01, 2007, 05:52:30 AM »

ahahahah some of you assclowns totally hate jay....pathetic but the truth is that is not over-rated
he never tore any muscle

he trains the smartest

he is bigger than yates

he is bigger than ronnie

and by the way i hate living in the past.jay might not have been the greatest in the past but thats a different story.this is march 2007 and not march 2003.jay has improved and he will keep on improving and right now is the greatest bodybuilder on this planet.i love to live in the present and look forward to the future...past is past..i don't give a fuck about it.jay will again win the sandow this year

IceCold · « **Reply #111 on:** March 01, 2007, 07:35:00 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on March 01, 2007, 05:52:30 AM

some of you assclowns totally hate jay

not true.

jay is a great bber and great for the sport.

he just isnt on yates or coleman's level.

at least not yet.

it took ronnie 7 years to get mr. olympia and into his prime - after he turned pro in 91.

yates was an enigma - he was dominant from the beginning.

time will tell about jay.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #112 on:** March 01, 2007, 07:39:48 AM »

comparison video

YATES vs cutler

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #113 on:** March 01, 2007, 07:40:54 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on March 01, 2007, 07:35:00 AM

not true.

jay is a great bber and great for the sport.

he just isnt on yates or coleman's level.

at least not yet.

it took ronnie 7 years to get mr. olympia and into his prime - after he turned pro in 91.

yates was an enigma - he was dominant from the beginning.

time will tell about jay.

jay will never be great

the shadow · « **Reply #114 on:** March 01, 2007, 07:54:54 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on March 01, 2007, 07:35:00 AM

not true.

jay is a great bber and great for the sport.

he just isnt on yates or coleman's level.

at least not yet.

it took ronnie 7 years to get mr. olympia and into his prime - after he turned pro in 91.

yates was an enigma - he was dominant from the beginning.

time will tell about jay.

i don't live in the past and you should too..i live in the present and currently jay is the champ

affy · « **Reply #115 on:** March 01, 2007, 10:37:23 AM »

lol its like comparing gold to silver

btw dorian is gold, ronnie is silver

and culter is refrigerator

hahahhaha

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #116 on:** March 01, 2007, 08:28:45 PM »

Quote from: the shadow on March 01, 2007, 05:52:30 AM

ahahahah some of you assclowns totally hate jay....pathetic but the truth is that is not over-rated
he never tore any muscle

he trains the smartest

he is bigger than yates

he is bigger than ronnie

and by the way i hate living in the past.jay might not have been the greatest in the past but thats a different story.this is march 2007 and not march 2003.jay has improved and he will keep on improving and right now is the greatest bodybuilder on this planet.i love to live in the present and look forward to the future...past is past..i don't give a fuck about it.jay will again win the sandow this year

Sure, Dorian competed at 260 lbs while Cutler came in at 275 lbs for last year's Olympia, so he's bigger. However, the point is that this is the only thing that Jay has on Dorian, because the latter's musculature is much harder and more separated than Jay's.

In fact, Dorian defeats Jay even for absolute size. The evidence? Dorian looked like a rock at 270 lbs; Cutler looks bloated and without separations at the same weight. This points out that Dorian actually carried more absolute mass than Jay. Dorian was at his best at 260 lbs, but he could come in much heavier and still be more conditioned than Cutler. Dorian was a vastly superior bodybuilder than Jay at everything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

pobrecito · « **Reply #117 on:** June 29, 2007, 08:47:06 PM »

I'm going to make some comparisons of Jay and Dorian at their bests - I personally think Jay is underrated, but he's not at the level Ronnie and Dorian presented at their peaks.