The Best Jay Cutler Ever Looked

[NarcissisticDeity]

watch the vid, and tell me jay isnt losing every pose i stated earlier. he clearly is, he is samller and less detailed. and loses badly from the back.

Smaller? they both weighed 264 pounds and Ronnie is 5'11" and Jay is lucky if he's 5'9" thats smaller? and the video & pics can be misleading , Jay was clearly the better guy on that occasion , he may not have been better than Ronnie 364 days out of the year but he was better on that day , and I agree Ronnie's back did have more detail in his back but his conditioning was off , even compared to jays.

[Scimowser]

watch the vid, and tell me jay isnt losing every pose i stated earlier. he clearly is, he is samller and less detailed. and loses badly from the back.

ronnie has never been so overpowered from the front by anyone. He was bloated, face it. Jay had abs and legs that were possibly the best in the show (Shawn for abs maybe) and Ronnies were worse than Kamalis. His chest and arms may have been slightly weaker if at all than Ronnies, but you cant gove Ronnie the title because he has a better back. Its like giving John Daly every Major by virtue of having the longest drive on the tour. Its bollocks

[donrhummy]

Exactly it specifically says NO props or multi-colored posing trunks , and Ronnie was allowed to pose longer than everyone else , and low-and-behold he wins the posing rounds and the contest after losing the ENTIRE prejudging its never been done in the history of the Olympia .

Actually in 1990 Lee haney lost the prejudging to Labrada and then won the posing round to take the whole thing. Also a ridiculous decision.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sums it up

[donrhummy]

based on this vid, jay loses. dont see how he doesnt.

Actually, Jay wins relaxed front, abs-thighs, front latspread, side chest, front double bicep, side tricep. He loses rear latspread and rear double bicep. He also wins on overall proportion. So he loses 2 and wins 7.

[donrhummy]

Sums it up

LOL, that's funny but really that's the "Victory" sign.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Actually in 1990 Lee haney lost the prejudging to Labrada and then won the posing round to take the whole thing. Also a ridiculous decision.

Haney NEVER lost the prejudging , in 1991 he lost the muscularity round to Yates but he never lost the whole prejudging

[Scimowser]

lets put it into simplistic terms if we can for the Coleman hardcores:

1. Ronnie = Never looked worse

2. Jay = never looked better

1+2  = 3. Jay Cutler win

4. IFBB Political interferance THEREFORE

4-3 = Ronnie Coleman win

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL, that's funny but really that's the "Victory" sign.

Sure it is 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Actually, Jay wins relaxed front, abs-thighs, front latspread, side chest, front double bicep, side tricep. He loses rear latspread and rear double bicep. He also wins on overall proportion. So he loses 2 and wins 7.

Jay won ALL mandatory poses , he won the whole prejudging , he lost the posing rounds and the show .

[ribonucleic]

based on this vid, jay loses. dont see how he doesnt.

Ronnie forgets to remember which way to face for front double biceps... 

[NarcissisticDeity]

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[donrhummy]

Haney NEVER lost the prejudging , in 1991 he lost the muscularity round to Yates but he never lost the whole prejudging

You are absolutely, 100% WRONG. 1990 he was LOSING to Labrada heading into the night show.

Flex Magazine, February 1991, p. 138:

"By the end of round two, Lee Labrada was justifiably swimming in elation; he was ahead of Lee Haney by two points."

Round three was the evening show.

[natural al]

ronnie wasn't even close that year..c'mon now.  Look at the thighs on jay, that should tell the story right there....easily one of the best physiques on Jay since 2000, just awsome.  To bad the judges want bloated monsters instead of ripped, big awsome looking BBers like jay looks like there.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You are absolutely, 100% WRONG. 1990 he was LOSING to Labrada heading into the night show.

Flex Magazine, February 1991, p. 138:

"By the end of round two, Lee Labrada was justifiably swimming in elation; he was ahead of Lee Haney by two points."

Round three was the evening show.

HMmmmmmmmmmmm I guess I am wrong 

[natural al]

You are absolutely, 100% WRONG. 1990 he was LOSING to Labrada heading into the night show.

Flex Magazine, February 1991, p. 138:

"By the end of round two, Lee Labrada was justifiably swimming in elation; he was ahead of Lee Haney by two points."

Round three was the evening show.

this is correct.  they even talk about it on the ESPN broadcast...

[donrhummy]

The most amazing thing about Jay in this photo (aside from his insane shoullder-to-waist ratio)? He has PEC striations!

[donrhummy]

HMmmmmmmmmmmm I guess I am wrong 

Yep, and doesn't it make that Olympia a joke? C'mon, Lee haney beating Labrada at POSING?! 

Oh, and just a question...do I lose my getbig membership because my previous post didn't have "owned!" all over it? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yep, and doesn't it make that Olympia a joke? C'mon, Lee haney beating Labrada at POSING?! 

Oh, and just a question...do I lose my getbig membership because my previous post didn't have "owned!" all over it? 

I can't believe Haney beat Labrada in the posing rounds lol my apologies for being wrong.

[Necrosis]

Actually, Jay wins relaxed front, abs-thighs, front latspread, side chest, front double bicep, side tricep. He loses rear latspread and rear double bicep. He also wins on overall proportion. So he loses 2 and wins 7.

are you out of your mind!!!
lat spread
jay has no detail nor striations in the front lat spread and is not as wide, and shittier taper then ronnie.ronnie has numerous cross striations in his chest and delts, with way better arm.

front double bi
jays symmtry is laughable, ronnies arms are bigger, more defined and he has better proportions. jay looks stumpy with 2 inch legs and long midsection

side chest

ahahah, this is the funniest, ronnie has striations in the delts and chest with way bigger arms. jay has no detail in the side chest and a flat pancake chest.


side tri, and abs jay wins.

so even if you half it on the front, side chest, mm and double bi ronnies, ill say the front lat arguable ronnie still wins based on the domination from the back. you cant win by only winning one side, and jay totally lost the back and was arguable from the front.

ronnie wins.

[donrhummy]

I think this sums up 2001 perfectly:

http://www.bodybuildinglive.com/articles/2001_11_2001olympia.html

Rumor had it that everyone just figured Ronnie would win again. "He’s unbeatable," I’ve heard some proclaim all year long...However, nobody told any of that "unbeatable" stuff to Jay Cutler.

The very first competitor on the stage was Ronnie Coleman...The crowd oohed and ahhed, shook their heads in astonishment at his size, and, of course, cheered a whole bunch. Yup, unbeatable everyone figured.

Jay Cutler then came on the stage and the crowd all took notice, but not as many people went ooh and ahh like they did for Ronnie. I guess we just thought he looked darn good and that Ronnie was still unbeatable.

...Then the unthinkable happened; the unbeatable was suddenly getting beaten up.

When Ronnie and Jay stood side by side, the oohing and ahhing started again. Then it got louder and louder. Believe it or not, it didn’t take long for the judges to catch on either. For whatever reason, standing alone Jay failed to impress, but standing beside Ronnie he looked better. Yes better!

...So, how close was it? Not really close at all. In the morning, Jay flat-out won...From where I was sitting, all I could here was "Jay, Jay, Jay" being chanted by the fans...I looked up at Ronnie and I’d never seen him look so worried...If you look at the score cards, you’ll see Cutler was ahead by a pretty good margin when the morning finished up.

...Then came the night show. Darkness fell and that changed everything. Ronnie was first up and did have a better free-posing routine than Jay...Then the final posedown came...Nighttime really hadn’t changed a thing; Jay still looked better.

[donrhummy]

side chest

ahahah, this is the funniest, ronnie has striations in the delts and chest with way bigger arms. jay has no detail in the side chest and a flat pancake chest.

Look, if you can't understand why Ronnie's pregnant stomach ruins his side poses, then you obviously don't know enough about bodybuilding to hold a discussion. There's a reason why bodybuilding isn't called "Huge guy competition." Bodybuilders are not simply huge weightlifters. They're supposed to have X frames. A huge gut is the exact OPPOSITE of what bodybuilding's all about.

[ribonucleic]

I can't believe Haney beat Labrada in the posing rounds

No harder to believe that Ronnie coming from behind to beat Jay in the posing round.

[Necrosis]

 what gut in the side poses, in the vid he controls his gut well. oh you must be one of the morons like nd that think transitions count and walking around.during the mandatories his gut is controlled, thats all that matters.

complaining about a gut in transitions is like complaining about no striations in the chest during transitions, IT DOESNT MATTER.

you cant see anyones gut in the side chest.


i dont care what reporters said, were you there?  if you werent then all you have to go on is what i have, the vids and pics, and jay is losing in them. thats like NDS statement about misleading video, youd have to be there. were you? no so same logic as above.

funny that ND says ronnie should have lost because of the pics, and reports, but when people say that about dorian he always says, DORIAN WON. well RONNIE WON end of story. but only a fool would use that as an argument.

[figgs]

Some of my favorite Cutler pics, all from 2001.