Ok,fair point on the dieting,by the way,how great would that be to get in shape and do no cardio.However,he must have worked to get to the size he did.If you see pictures of him when he was young,he didnt really look like a natural mass monster.I just dont get the whole knocking good bodybuilders mentality.I can see if your comparing one guy to another and you think one guy is better,but to just see guys rip away at established competitors is something I dont get.