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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2007, 11:46:56 AM »
I knew and worked with Steve personally and it is my "good guess" that he did not write that article (above) himself.

But I do know for a fact that he did support what was stated 100% as we discussed the same topic while traveling in a limo one afternoon.

Back then we were promoting natural contests and Steve attended as our invited guest and made that event a huge success.

I will state for a fact that in my experience the general public will not support natural bodybuilding contests to the extent that they will make a profit and although I personally knocked on doors to reclaim a trophy after the winner's drug test came back, I still firmly believe that drug tests don't catch them all because most guys know how to beat the system and retain that "natural title".

Thanks for posting that article, DK. I've never seen it before.



It's a shame, really.


It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........
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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2007, 11:49:29 AM »
It's a shame, really.


It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........

Yup. Absolutely ridiculous. These guys should be ashamed.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2007, 11:52:09 AM »
Yup. Absolutely ridiculous. These guys should be ashamed.

That's just it, if they had a conscience or ethics, an ounce of honor, pride, they wouldn't do such a thing.


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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2007, 04:10:34 PM »
Dunno, I think ND and his absurd logic give MD a good run for biggest joke in BB. He & obedient boyfriend pubes are the only two nudniks who don't already know it. ;)


absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.


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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2007, 04:15:11 PM »
Yes, it's a sad story.

I wonder what goes on in somebody's head if they compete roided up in a natural contest.

monster insecurity issues i would say.

Just ask Matt T that very question.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2007, 04:38:27 PM »
It's a shame, really.


It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........

Eric Shannon.

When he couldn't get his pro card he switch to trying to doing Natty contests while "on", being noticably the biggest dude in the line up.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2007, 04:53:00 PM »

absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.


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Fantastic post !!

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2007, 04:53:57 PM »
Eric Shannon.

When he couldn't get his pro card he switch to trying to doing Natty contests while "on", being noticably the biggest dude in the line up.

Haha yeah, whatever happened to that dude?! Totally disappeared...

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2007, 07:09:54 PM »
This is MY favorite part..

Ironic isn't it. Whatever sells magazines is what counts.
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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2007, 07:14:14 PM »

absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.


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Who could this be? The man who claimed Arnold's muscles were "fake"? Who said Tiger Woods was "over rated"? Who said the CFL was better than the NFL? Who said Doug Flutie was better then Montana, Elway and Marino? Yes its him.
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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2007, 07:15:10 PM »

Who could this be? The man who claimed Arnold's muscles were "fake"? Who said Tiger Woods was "over rated"? Who said the CFL was better than the NFL? Who said Doug Flutie was better then Montana, Elway and Marino? Yes its him.

LMFAO pumpster owns himself with every word he types

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2007, 07:33:03 PM »
This is MY favorite part..

  Shut up, you drug abusing junkie. How much sauce you took to win that masters contests the other day? I think it's funny that guys like you criticize and make fun of the physiques of getbig.com posters. Wtf?! Most of us don't have a hotline to our personal endocrinologist and pharmacist, and we can't afford to eat 8 times a day, train for 50 minutes and then sleep the rest of the day. So get down from your high-horse and realize that there are getbig.com posters who have better genetics than you do, and would take your ass out at a bodybuilding contest if they did nothing other than train, eat, sleep and take more trenbolone in a week than a thouroughbred racing horse could handle in a whole year. >:(

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2007, 07:46:07 PM »
  Shut up, you drug abusing junkie. How much sauce you took to win that masters contests the other day? I think it's funny that guys like you criticize and make fun of the physiques of getbig.com posters. Wtf?! Most of us don't have a hotline to our personal endocrinologist and pharmacist, and we can't afford to eat 8 times a day, train for 50 minutes and then sleep the rest of the day. So get down from your high-horse and realize that there are getbig.com posters who have better genetics than you do, and would take your ass out at a bodybuilding contest if they did nothing other than train, eat, sleep and take more trenbolone in a week than a thouroughbred racing horse could handle in a whole year. >:(

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2007, 03:30:18 AM »
Haha yeah, whatever happened to that dude?! Totally disappeared...

Well he married some black chick named JoAnna Billings, who looks like a porno chick who real name is JoAnna. I'm talking exactly a like, I think they are one in the same. I remembered when Muscle Tech used to hype him up, with Erik Fromm giving commentary, knowing that Erik Fromm was the better bodybuilder. I guess Muscletech realize that they were backing the wrong horse...and dropped Eric Shannon like Paris Hilton drops names.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2007, 06:50:22 AM »
Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
Tell it to someone who cares. Oprah, maybe.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2007, 08:04:17 AM »
Thinking that there's money to be made on natural bodybuilding show's don't understand business. 

There IS money to be made promoting drug-free shows which showcase WOMEN, namely the WNSO and FAME.  That money comes from the competitors, mainly, and through ticketsales that are usually made up from the competitors families and fans who love bodybuilding. 

The women get exposure, industry contacts, and endorsements if they're lucky.  But the men in those shows are a smaller commodity, mainly because they don't compete for the same reasons the women do.  The women use it as a stepping stone to a higher level, perhaps acting.  Just look at who's on the cover of a recent issue of Stuff magazine...Victoria Pratt!..remember her?  She used to be a regular "glute spectacular" girl in MMag International, and now she's an actress who lands a cover on a very popular mainstream magazine.  You could say the same for Trish Stratus.

  But most male bb'ers do the natural shows to prove something...for the same reason many juicer pro's do it.  And when those natty's realize that they don't have the genetics to win a natty show, they just might take a little juice to give them an edge.  And so on and so on!

The thing is, the juicer pro's look unbelieveable and the majority of nattys don't.  Unbelievable in that their pics can sell magazines.

The general public has been shown a physique that is unattainable to the majority, but that's what sells. 

One of the ONLY ways that natural bodybuilding can rise in popularity is to, sadly, offer bigger cash prizes.  Why do I say sadly?  Because it's the MONEY that makes people cheat.  If it was just about winning, what sane person would risk their freedom and health to win a simple trophy?...

Take a look at Arnolds era.  They were all on drugs, but at least it wasn't illegal back then.  And you couldn't win a ton of money either.  Why did they do it?  There wasn't the cash there is today in the pro ranks.  The influx of money raised the stakes, and the drugs followed suit.

The reason why the natural shows don't make money is because of the lack of mainstream sponsors.  The IFBB gets away with it because they have magazines and the majority of bodybuilding related sponsors...but it's all peanuts compared to sponsors like Nike and Gatorade, believe that.  Mainstream companies won't sponsor natural shows because of the drug issue, simple.  You can't get past the steroid issue, now or ever.  Unless cheap drug testing can be found, then it's pointless.

And the sad truth is that the people at the natural shows, those in attendance, are far more likely to actually buy the related products! 

So you're stuck in a never-ending cycle...you can't compete without the drugs, but the drugs drive out the sponsors, but the sponsors bring in the prize money, but the prize money goes to those who take the drugs!

If you could only legalize steroids, then at least the IFBB could promote THIS message:  Yes, drugs are used, however, if all you have is a steroid-abused body then you're not going to win.  Unless you have the genetics, you're not going to win.  Then they could actually begin to promote a look that the general public would ACTUALLY LIKE, like Arnold and Paris and Haney.  A body image that has marketablility in Hollywood, and to the masses.  Instead of what you have now, which is the extreme in development at all costs.

Right now, the 'sport' is so mired in lies it's mindboggling. 

Again, unless you can rationalize in your mind that breaking the law and endangering your health is a small price to pay for a moment of glory and the possibility of stardom (which hasn't been duplicated since Arnold), the bodybuilding will disappoint you.  The idea of training hard, eating properly and WINNING doesn't happen in the NPC without DRUGS in the equation. That's the cold hard truth.  People with a sense of values and ethics can't justify the cost with the reward.  And that's where the 'sport' dies.  It's an activity that makes a small amount of people some money, and the ones who win use drugs to do it.  Am I leaving anything out?

Instead of trying to legalize steroids, a task that's probably impossible in today's world, the focus should be on drug tests that are 99.9 percent accurate.  Then, if the fools can find a way to cheat past THAT then more power to them!  It comes down to dollars and cents.  Find a way to make it MORE expensive to cheat than to NOT cheat.





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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2007, 08:10:17 AM »
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Instead of trying to legalize steroids, a task that's probably impossible in today's world, the focus should be on drug tests that are 99.9 percent accurate.  Then, if the fools can find a way to cheat past THAT then more power to them!  It comes down to dollars and cents.  Find a way to make it MORE expensive to cheat than to NOT cheat.


Good point.

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Re: Steve Reeves rants about steroid bodybuilding.
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2007, 09:20:35 AM »
Intelligently stated, Bic. I may not agree on every point but "Thanks" for the good read.