Case #2:"TWEETER" Adonis Principles in Action

[AVBG]

2/6/07:
Weight = 194.4 lbs

Popcorn                            100
Fried chicken tenders          315
Macaroni & cheese             220
Snickers                           280
Lean pocket                      280
Coffee w/ skim milk              60
Airborne (immune support)      5               
DiGiorno pizza                    405
Gum                                    5
Large apple                       110
Starburst                           20

Total = 1,800 calories

how many slices of pizza is DiGiorno pizza                    405


also what is the size of the popcorn and tenders?

[wampyri]

I would add to this diet some weight training asap its clear why you are losing no muscle.

[The True Adonis]

Looking good, keep up the good work!

[gh15]

2/7/2007:

Weight = 193.0 lbs

Ben & Jerry's           380
Captain Crunch         80
Oreo ice cream        320
Airborne                    5
Popcorn                 100
10 oz. sirloin           450
Caesar salad           465
Total calories = 1,800

i have to see the results on this pupil ,,post some pictures in couple months my friend,, i wanna see if i can follow this diet offseason none stop  this is what i calll full satisfied belly every day

[210 and growing]

i have to see the results on this pupil ,,post some pictures in couple months my friend,, i wanna see if i can follow this diet offseason none stop  this is what i calll full satisfied belly every day

You are joking right!!?? Anybody doing some serious heavy workouts would dwindle away to a POW type (Adonis) physique on this diet within a month or 2 (Natural). Its ok for somebody roided up to the gills maybe. Hell, the steak salad and ice cream is one meal and it is well over half the guys daily calories!! Enjoy your Austwitz appearance once you finish this diet !!

[The True Adonis]

Comng right along Perfectly!

We all Look forward to the pics!

[AVBG]

hey Tweeter & TA.. mad props for the changes.. I got a question? Did you change your training at all or was it just a dietry change?

[The True Adonis]

[ripitupbaby]

I just found this thread again, I just figured tweeter was another hoax.   

HOW are you not starving?  Aren't you hungry? is there something wrong with your metabolism? 
Wouldn't you prefer a greater amount of less calorie dense food?

TA, you never addressed any of the questions re. this "baseline" and wtf it is you are trying to evaluate here.  All of these guys are big enough that they will lose weight on this diet despite whatever they may choose to eat.

[GoneAway]

tweeter:

1. What's your goal that you are working towards?
2. Care to explain how your meals are consumed throughout the day?
3. Is your exact meal plan everyday designed by Adonis?

[ripitupbaby]

Tweeter thanks for the information.  Getting TA to provide any info has been like pulling teeth lately. 

What does your typical day look like?  How active are you other than your workouts? 

[GoneAway]

From your pics, your chest is your best bodypart. It has that nice square shape.

I'd be interested to know the amount of calories (or protein/fat/carbs) he suggests daily based on your bodyweight, if you'd care to release the info when it's given.

[D.L. 5]

if u do heavy deads, barbell rows
heavy dumbell shoulder press
and compound free weights

...should get ur mass and muscularity up big time.

[ripitupbaby]

Tweeter, can you also start posting the time of day when you eat?
 
Your food list for 2/12 only contains like maybe 2 real meals in it. 
315 cals of "assorted candy"? 

Thanks for the info.  your progress pics look good.

[GoneAway]

Okay, I will post all the times for today. And, if you would like to know, the "assorted candy" included jelly belly's, sour gummi worms, and sour apple rings

At my high school canteen, we used to have this bag for like $.50 of apple rings and all sorts of candy. Yummy as hell.

Hey Tweets, are you entering the Mr. Getbig?

[ripitupbaby]

Okay, I will post all the times for today. And, if you would like to know, the "assorted candy" included jelly belly's, sour gummi worms, and sour apple rings

It would be helpful to know how you spread the meals out and when you eat relative when you wake up and your workout, etc.
So you survived the day eating one meal of steak and rice, some instant oatmeal, some pizza bites, popcorn and ice cream?  

Was the assorted candy your pre-workout meal?    

[The True Adonis]

Yeah, to tell you the truth I have gotten to where I really don't get very hungry anymore; it seems as if my stomach itself is actually shrinking; the only problem is once I start eating that Ben & Jerry's its hard to stop.

No, I just went home to my parents the other day and my mom had a bunch of candy over there so I helped myself. I actually didn't workout yesterday; I had planned to but just got too busy.

Its funny, I know ALL obesity stems from neuroticism and/or ignorance.  Nothing else.  The human body is meant to eat in the manner that Tweeter is eating.  

[ripitupbaby]

I'm not really talking about obesity here.
Thanks again for the info tweeter, keep it up, I'm interested to see how things go.  As you lose weight, you should start to get hungrier.


TA...where's BULKY these days?   

[wampyri]

You're taking no vitimin supps no fresh fruits no efa's fibre I bet you're constipated and smell like old men and brocoli your diet sucks to high heaven even if you end up at 8% bf you won't be healthy I'd like to watch the intesity of your work out as you can't be functioning at nearly what your capable of.  Before you jump off on one I am a Boxer and have to cut weight for fights I know how to get down to single digits and still have to do extremly grueling work outs and lots of cardio I can't imagine how shit you must feel.

[Maddy]

I take a multivitamin, vitamin c, and calcium, magnesium, and zinc everyday.

According to TA
all supplements
are crap and useless.  
 
Why are you taking them?

[GoneAway]

Tweeter is to do No Cardio.

No Supplements.

Owned.

[GoneAway]

Well, I guess if you want to get really technical, then you are right...I am breaking the original paramaters of the diet by taking vitamins and mineral supplements. However, despite the fact that TA did not clearly specifiy exactly he meant by "supplement", I do not believe that he was referring to vitamins and minerals. I have always taken these and, therefore, there would be no logical reason to discontinue their use upon implementation of the Adonis Principles. But nevertheless, it appears you have "owned" TA and I fairly bad   

I'm just saying, you're not following his principles to a tee, so your results aren't a direct result of his principles (which are already vague). If you have any clear-cut paramaters, feel free to say what they are. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of BS for Adonis to get his name out there.

[ripitupbaby]

Tweeter, you had an apple at 9 AM yesterday and then you didn't eat again until 800 cals of ice cream at 4:30 PM??

 

[GoneAway]

Adonis told me that it was fine and in accordance to his principles if I wanted to take these supplements. He has primarily argued in the past that supplements are not necessary, not that they will interfere with your progress. For the point of this "dietary experiment", the fact that I am taking vitamin/mineral supplements should have no effect on the overall outcome, which ultimately is represented by the amount of fat that I lose and whether or not I lose any muscle. If I was taking something such as ephedra, I could see how it could discredit the experiment, but not what I am taking. Also, keep in mind that we are not adding any variables into the equation; I was taking the vitamins/minerals before I started this experiment and, therefore, it only makes sense to continue their use throughout.

I still haven't heard a straight-forward principle that you're following.

[Hedgehog]

Tweeter is to do No Cardio.

No Supplements.

As long as Tweeter is taking any supplements such as vitamins or minerals, there is no way of knowing if he would have made progress using the "Adonis Principles".

Since he isn't using those, but rather his own, enhanced, version.

-Hedge