HIV/AIDS in the 'industry' ?

[jaejonna]

I wonder what are the statistics of those in the 'industry' who have contracted the HIV virus?

It is basically the merging of the two main groups of AIDS patients ....


GAYS + Syringe Users ...


I wonder who will be a casuality....

[Jerryme7]

There is a bodybuilder/Playboy Playmate who has HIV but she isnt a probodybuilder. Her name is Rebekka Armstrong

Im not really sure how she contracted HIV....

[Dingleberry]

I wonder what are the statistics of those in the 'industry' who have contracted the HIV virus?

It is basically the merging of the two main groups of AIDS patients ....


GAYS + Syringe Users ...


I wonder who will be a casuality....

There may be something to the gay part but the syringe part is almost non-existent. It's not like a bunch of bodybuilders get together in abandoned buildings and share roid needles..

[Jerryme7]

I dont believe it would be the case of using syringes because of the fact that bodybuilders sterilze their needles to prevent infections and cyste to develope..well the smart one do...

I bet the cause is possibly unprotected sex more than sharing dirty needles. Bodybuilding is known as a a sexual sport.....people go to the gym to hook up, etc..

[Palpatine Q]

There is a bodybuilder/Playboy Playmate who has HIV but she isnt a probodybuilder. Her name is Rebekka Armstrong

Im not really sure how she contracted HIV....

Probably from taking an HIV positive cock up her ass with no raincoat.

[jaejonna]

Probably from taking an HIV positive cock up her ass with no raincoat.

hahahahahh 


ps monster Name Dropping hahaha

[donthate1]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,3604,574706,00.html

Rebekka Armstrong


"Apparently she got HIV from either sex or a blood transfusion"

[ribonucleic]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,3604,574706,00.html

Rebekka Armstrong


"Apparently she got HIV from either sex or a blood transfusion"

She's done porn, hasn't she?

Yeah, "blood transfusion"... 

[jaejonna]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,3604,574706,00.html

Rebekka Armstrong


"Apparently she got HIV from either sex or a blood transfusion"

probably a sexual blood transfusion...

http://www.askthecouch.com/2_past_template.asp?article=161

[timfogarty]

there are quite a few bodybuilders who were positive long before they picked up a weight, that dealing with their disease got them into bodybuilding.

today HIV is a very managable disease, if you're in a first world country.   with a few exceptions, the only people who are progressing from HIV to AIDS are those with other problems, such as Hep-C or continued drug abuse.

I know many people who've been positive for over 20 years and are doing fine.

[tom joad]

there are quite a few bodybuilders who were positive long before they picked up a weight

what does "quite a few" mean? what percentage of pro bodybuilders have HIV? 25%?

[timfogarty]

what does "quite a few" mean? what percentage of pro bodybuilders have HIV? 25%?

I said bodybuilders, not pro bodybuilders.  while many HIV doctors are big believers in testosterone supplementation, I think it would be foolish to be taking HIV meds and grams of steroids a week for years at a time.  But I'm sure someone is doing it.

[BayGBM]

there are quite a few bodybuilders who were positive long before they picked up a weight, that dealing with their disease got them into bodybuilding.

Agreed.

today HIV is a very managable disease, if you're in a first world country.   

Manageable, yes, but it still causes premature death in all but X patients.  It used to be that a positive test result meant death in 12-24 months.  That window is much larger now but even with the best treatment and drug cocktails the patients lifespan is cut short and one can see a degredation in their physical condition.

Remember when Christopher Reeve had his horse riding accident?  His paralysis was tragic, but anyone could see that over a period of months his condition (whatever it was) was going from bad to worse.  He became more gaunt, his lost is hair (quickly), he looked worse and worse every time we saw him.  Paralysis alone does not cause that.  Btw, I’m not saying he had HIV.  I’m simply saying his condition was deteriorating over a period of time.  Something very similar happens to positive patients even with the best medical care.  I have seen this several times.  One day a guy is pumped up with muscle, the next year he has tiny legs, and a big roid/HGH gut.  A couple years later, he’s gone.

There are approximately 10 different strains of HIV in the world today.  About 5 of those strains are floating around the USA.  A drug cocktail may work effectively for the 2-3 strains a patient has been exposed to but get exposed to strain #4 or #5 and his health can suddenly fall off a cliff.  This is why continued safe sex practices are still very important.

The other day I trained at a Gold’s gym notable for its large gay population. There were lots of very built guys there, but as my friend Bryan would say, “No thanks.  I’d rather be alive.”

Miraculously, there are long-term positive patients (we call these X patients) and some of them take no medications at all.  How is this possible?  Diversity is nature’s secret weapon and best defense.  We may all be of the same species, but nature has made all of us just a little bit different.  Not every drug works equally on every person.  By the same token, not even a virus like HIV can kill every human being.

This diversity among the human population makes long-term positive survivors possible.  If the entire world became positive today and no drug cocktails were available, humanity via the X patient population, would survive.

One of the secrets to treating HIV is identifying this Y factor in this X population.  This will yield treatments for those already infected; HIV will never be cured.  Of course, preventing infection and developing a vaccine are the ultimate goals.

[Anal Iceman Lubeth]

magic johnson will outlive us all.



his johnson must really be magic after all!

[ribonucleic]

magic johnson will outlive us all.

Goddamned mofo has been positive for 16 years now...

I hate rich people. 

[jaejonna]

Goddamned mofo has been positive for 16 years now...

I hate rich people. 

the  rumor is that he actually bought humans that are his blood type and gets transfusions on a weekly/monthly basis to dilute the blood so when the virus is up to 15% at the end of the month, goes in for a trasfusion to knock it down to 4% ....or something like that .... crazy ..

[The Heckler]

Agreed.

Manageable, yes, but it still causes premature death in all but X patients.  It used to be that a positive test result meant death in 12-24 months.  That window is much larger now but even with the best treatment and drug cocktails the patients lifespan is cut short and one can see a degredation in their physical condition.

Remember when Christopher Reeve had his horse riding accident?  His paralysis was tragic, but anyone could see that over a period of months his condition (whatever it was) was going from bad to worse.  He became more gaunt, his lost is hair (quickly), he looked worse and worse every time we saw him.  Paralysis alone does not cause that.  Btw, I’m not saying he had HIV.  I’m simply saying his condition was deteriorating over a period of time.  Something very similar happens to positive patients even with the best medical care.  I have seen this several times.  One day a guy is pumped up with muscle, the next year he has tiny legs, and a big roid/HGH gut.  A couple years later, he’s gone.

There are approximately 10 different strains of HIV in the world today.  About 5 of those strains are floating around the USA.  A drug cocktail may work effectively for the 2-3 strains a patient has been exposed to but get exposed to strain #4 or #5 and his health can suddenly fall off a cliff.  This is why continued safe sex practices are still very important.

The other day I trained at a Gold’s gym notable for its large gay population. There were lots of very built guys there, but as my friend Bryan would say, “No thanks.  I’d rather be alive.”

Miraculously, there are long-term positive patients (we call these X patients) and some of them take no medications at all.  How is this possible?  Diversity is nature’s secret weapon and best defense.  We may all be of the same species, but nature has made all of us just a little bit different.  Not every drug works equally on every person.  By the same token, not even a virus like HIV can kill every human being.

This diversity among the human population makes long-term positive survivors possible.  If the entire world became positive today and no drug cocktails were available, humanity via the X patient population, would survive.

One of the secrets to treating HIV is identifying this Y factor in this X population.  This will yield treatments for those already infected; HIV will never be cured.  Of course, preventing infection and developing a vaccine are the ultimate goals.

hiv infected meltdown

[Anal Iceman Lubeth]

the  rumor is that he actually bought humans that are his blood type and gets transfusions on a weekly/monthly basis to dilute the blood so when the virus is up to 15% at the end of the month, goes in for a trasfusion to knock it down to 4% ....or something like that .... crazy ..

holy crap...  i guess if anyone COULD afford blood, it'd be magic!

GET BIGGER!

[Board_SHERIF]

hiv infected meltdown

LOL.....

[ribonucleic]

the  rumor is that he actually bought humans that are his blood type and gets transfusions on a weekly/monthly basis to dilute the blood so when the virus is up to 15% at the end of the month, goes in for a trasfusion to knock it down to 4% ....or something like that .... crazy ..

HIV infection takes root in the cells - so I don't think a simple blood transfusion would work. But I'm sure he's doing some far-out shit that only the super-rich can afford.

Have you ever read the Forbes 400 issue? If they die at 85, it's considered tragically young.

Or look at that dick Cheney. Four heart attacks. But as long as he's got those Halliburton millions to spend, the Grim Reaper's going to have to drag him out kicking and screaming.

[timfogarty]

the  rumor is that he actually bought humans that are his blood type and gets transfusions on a weekly/monthly basis to dilute the blood so when the virus is up to 15% at the end of the month, goes in for a trasfusion to knock it down to 4% ....or something like that .... crazy ..

this is complete BS.  Most people on HIV meds (a combination of 3 or more) have viral loads of 0.  after a while, the viral load starts inching up, but then you simply change to a different combination of meds.  I know many people who have had HIV for 20+ years who currently have an undetectable viral load.

there have been incredible advances in the treatment of HIV.  Yes, the HIV meds have side effects.  Yes lipoatrophy is a serious problem.  But most people with HIV can live a normal life.

[timfogarty]

Manageable, yes, but it still causes premature death in all but X patients.  It used to be that a positive test result meant death in 12-24 months.  That window is much larger now but even with the best treatment and drug cocktails the patients lifespan is cut short and one can see a degredation in their physical condition.

without meds some people can go from infection to full blown AIDS in 2 years, but the average is closer to 10 years or more.  Some have gone 20 years without starting the meds.

with meds, most everyone can expect a normal lifespan.   an unlucky few cannot handle the side effects of the meds at all.  for most the side effects are managable.

the people who are progressing to full blown AIDS today usually have some other condition involved.  The most common one is drug abuse. Crystal meth addicts tend to skip their meds for days at a time over and over.   This leads to resistance to the HIV meds.   Hep-C can also make managing HIV more difficult.

[Board_SHERIF]

without meds some people can go from infection to full blown AIDS in 2 years, but for many its 10 years or more.  Some have gone 20 years without starting the meds.

with meds, most everyone can expect a normal lifespan.   an unlucky few cannot handle the side effects of the meds at all.  for most the side effects are managable.

the people who are progressing to full blown AIDS today usually have some other condition involved.  The most common one is drug abuse. Crystal meth addicts tend to skip their meds for days at a time over and over.   This leads to resistance to the HIV meds.   Hep-C can also make managing HIV more difficult.

Tim you are an inspiration to all those HIV infected persons - you continue life at full throttle....

[Adam Empire]

without meds some people can go from infection to full blown AIDS in 2 years, but the average is closer to 10 years or more.  Some have gone 20 years without starting the meds.

with meds, most everyone can expect a normal lifespan.   an unlucky few cannot handle the side effects of the meds at all.  for most the side effects are managable.

the people who are progressing to full blown AIDS today usually have some other condition involved.  The most common one is drug abuse. Crystal meth addicts tend to skip their meds for days at a time over and over.   This leads to resistance to the HIV meds.   Hep-C can also make managing HIV more difficult.

I'm by no means an expert on this subject, but I read this the other day:

Aids drugs can add 35 years
Last updated: Thursday, January 25, 2007
HIV-positive people in their mid-twenties can expect to live at least another 35 years if they receive modern anti-retroviral treatment, according to a Danish study published this month in Annals of Internal Medicine.

The study, conducted by researchers at Odense University Hospital, analysed data collected from 3990 HIV-infected patients receiving care and 379 872 people from the general population in Denmark from 1995 to 2005.

The HIV-positive subjects, all members of the nationwide Danish HIV Cohort Study, were each matched with as many as 99 persons from the general population according to sex, date of birth, and municipality of residence.

The researchers concluded that the estimated median survival for an 25-year-old person diagnosed as HIV-positive, who receives antiretroviral therapy, is more than 35 years.

The implications of the study, as stated by the editors of Annals of Internal Medicine, are that persons with HIV infection who have access to the latest treatment have a good, but far from normal, life expectancy.

An ongoing effort is still needed to further reduce mortality rates for these persons compared with the general population.

The editors further caution that Denmark provides excellent access to HIV care, so the results may be atypical.

- Health24, January 2007

[BayGBM]

The implications of the study, as stated by the editors of Annals of Internal Medicine, are that persons with HIV infection who have access to the latest treatment have a good, but far from normal, life expectancy.

An ongoing effort is still needed to further reduce mortality rates for these persons compared with the general population.

The editors further caution that Denmark provides excellent access to HIV care, so the results may be atypical.

As I said, Manageable, yes, but it still causes premature death in all but X patients.  It used to be that a positive test result meant death in 12-24 months.  That window is much larger now but even with the best treatment and drug cocktails the patient's lifespan is cut short ...