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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2007, 03:05:24 PM »
I love the personal trainers that earn their weekend trainer certificates and immediately proceed to wax poetic on the specifics of a healthy lifestyle while eating their supersized combo meals and earning $8/hr on their part-time schedules.

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2007, 03:05:35 PM »
Intence, what do you think, have read some of your posts and agreed with your techniques.  Would like to hear your philosophy!!!!!     Remember fellas not everyone is training to beat Ronni I mean Jay Cuts at the Olympia.  That exercise is a little overboard but if an athlete like a surfer or skater could master it, would be beneficial.  Not everyone is a bodybuilder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   As far as Glass goes if something isnt working he should at least try another way.  Right?

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2007, 03:13:03 PM »
have you ever used a personal trainer that you payed for Mr. I?

No, Ive been training since I was 12, I'm 44 now, have learned from the best and even though I didn't finish college, I still managed a CSCS cert and NASM, I went to school for Anatomy/Physiology, human biomechanics and Kinesiology.....I wish I could have finished but life happends!

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2007, 03:26:09 PM »
well obviously the guys behind the swiss ball needs to be paying em. does muscle-tech have a sister company?  ;)

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2007, 03:45:00 PM »
No, Ive been training since I was 12, I'm 44 now, have learned from the best and even though I didn't finish college, I still managed a CSCS cert and NASM, I went to school for Anatomy/Physiology, human biomechanics and Kinesiology.....I wish I could have finished but life happends!

exactly, no one should pay for it.   ;)

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2007, 03:46:25 PM »
there is good and bad out there.
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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2007, 03:54:05 PM »
With every rule there is always an exception.  How many f*cking times do I see a trainer walking around with a starbucks playing with thier ipod while the client is litteraly killing themselves and they seem to damn uninterested in doing so.

I agree the average person is not in it to compete in the olympia, but come one guys.

That swiss ball is played out, these standing on one foot while curling with the opposite hand and hopping up and down screaming "I'm a nut, I'm a nut" while the personal trainer tells you about their date last night is a complete utter joke.

I am pretty sure that guys like glass, sarcev etc... can work you out until you pass out, but it seems these trainers today including the two I just mentioned try getting way to cute with their excersices and variations.  K.I.S.S.  Keep it simple shitheads. 

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2007, 04:01:07 PM »
I agree with allot of what' being said, but as a trainer, some people just need a trainer.  Weather it's imagined or real, it's real to them.  I have several clients, who I've had on and off for years.  I don't call them or let them know in any way that they need someone to train them, but to them, they do and seek me out.  I also have some people who have never set foot in a gym and think they need someone to show them the proper lifting styles so when they do go to a gym, they won't feel dorky.  I don't know.  I don't make friends with clients, I just do the job they want to pay me to do.  With most it only takes a few sessions, but with others, their going to want a trainer forever ???
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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2007, 04:14:19 PM »
I am pretty sure that guys like glass, sarcev etc... can work you out until you pass out, but it seems these trainers today including the two I just mentioned try getting way to cute with their excersices and variations.  K.I.S.S.  Keep it simple shitheads. 

Explain what "keep it simple" means?

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2007, 06:41:14 PM »
Explain what "keep it simple" means?

not trying to do squats on a big ball when they haven't ever tried squats on the floor.  At least train these newbs the beginners stuff before turning them into cirque de soleil performers.

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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2007, 06:45:15 PM »
too true -- but most people would pay just for the company/social aspect. And they make good baby sitters. Cheap date too - if you're trying the hook up with a fitness babe or dude :P :-X

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2007, 07:38:24 PM »

Even the guru's are pathetic.  Look at Charles Glass.  people rant and rave about him, yet most of the guys he has trained recently have gotten worse.  Jerome Ferguson dropped placing from last year, Gunter has dropped placing. 

but he had Gunther and Jerome looking like little fags and look how it paid off.  They both were smooth and lost a shitload of detail from last year because they aren't lifting like men anymore.


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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2007, 07:57:42 PM »
some of them know what they're talking about (IntenseOne i believe knows what he's doing) but most of them just got their certificate (arvilla en 99% of the trainers) and start charging fools $50-$200 for a little training.Oh, and swiss ball stuff is a gimmick with very little added value.

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leave my fucking name outta this!

(i got 2 certificates ACE and ISSA and a fucking college degree!!!)
plus i been training for 15 plus years ..........if im not qualified then i don't know who the fuck is!
i had to learn kinesiology,biology,and all kinds of shit..........
keep my name ouuta ur fucking mouth!

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2007, 09:31:10 PM »
not trying to do squats on a big ball when they haven't ever tried squats on the floor.  At least train these newbs the beginners stuff before turning them into cirque de soleil performers.

Anyone who squats on a ball should be shot for letting the trainer have them do it, commonsense 101...but I'm assuming you're saying to train people simple......what does simple mean??

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2007, 09:36:04 PM »
Mon_of_steele has a point, generally personal trainers are useless, some are very good, but most are pathetic girls...no offense to the PT'S here..

At the gym i go to the trainers are not built, not athletic looking there just regular people with guts, Cmon man, i cant believe people pay them $50-$80/hour to inspire them..

there is this one dude who is overweight he was using a PT over the course of 4 weeks, i seen him in the locker room and i said "hows it going man, hows the personal training going? any results??" he said "i havent seen a change in my body and my wife wants me to stop before i spend another $500"

I was shocked $500, damn man, i told him just go YOUTUBE/online and look up bodybuilding training and get some tips from there or if i'm on the floor I'll help you and get rid of the fucken trainer who is always talking to other members or on the phone when he should be concentrating on this fat guy thats paying him..

and them swiss balls for heaven sake...

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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2007, 09:53:36 PM »
A few weeks ago there was a guy and his trainer at my gym, and I was talking to another guy about how we thought most trainers are worthless.  The guy I was talking to said he looks at a personal trainer as someone you pay alot of money to shoot the shit with you while you work out, and I said "yeah, and every now and then tell you some gay shit like 'poke your butt out when you do that.'"  Not 5 minutes later the trainer had the guy doing some deadlifts in the corner and said "yeah that's nice, tighten your butt when you stand up."

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2007, 11:53:03 PM »
leave my fucking name outta this!

(i got 2 certificates ACE and ISSA and a fucking college degree!!!)
plus i been training for 15 plus years ..........if im not qualified then i don't know who the f**k is!
i had to learn kinesiology,biology,and all kinds of shit..........
keep my name ouuta ur fucking mouth!

Haha, your gettin pissed pretty damn quick, arvilla.First of all, does your college degree have ANYTHING to do woth exercise physiology/anatomy or something relevant to PT'ing?I dont think so.
And just because you've been lifting for 15 years(with very moderate results) doesn't make you a good trainer, but if i have to tell you that, you weren't a good one to begin with.
Im done with you, if you wanna be an attention whore on the boards, be sure you're gonna catch some shit for it.

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P.S.:your signature pic says i CAN talk shit, because im making you famous...whats it gonna be, it so confusing now.

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2007, 12:18:41 AM »
Personal Training is a transient job. Very few people do it as a career. So, most of the trainers you see aren't professionals as much as people looking for a way to make easy money for a while until they move on to something else.

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2007, 05:55:02 AM »
Haha, your gettin pissed pretty damn quick, arvilla.First of all, does your college degree have ANYTHING to do woth exercise physiology/anatomy or something relevant to PT'ing?I dont think so.
And just because you've been lifting for 15 years(with very moderate results) doesn't make you a good trainer, but if i have to tell you that, you weren't a good one to begin with.
Im done with you, if you wanna be an attention whore on the boards, be sure you're gonna catch some shit for it.

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P.S.:your signature pic says i CAN talk shit, because im making you famous...whats it gonna be, it so confusing now.

piss off you fucking wanker!

heres your "very moderate results".............

(i have helped numerous clients lose a ton of weight/feel better bout themselves wtf have you done!?!?)
1 guy was medically obese now hes shooting to get under 200 lbs!
he looks/feels fantastic!
like i said keep my name outta ur fucking mouth!

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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2007, 06:08:47 AM »
How dare you imply that this man isn't getting his money's worth ;)



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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2007, 06:37:31 AM »
I love the personal trainers that earn their weekend trainer certificates and immediately proceed to wax poetic on the specifics of a healthy lifestyle while eating their supersized combo meals and earning $8/hr on their part-time schedules.

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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2007, 12:23:46 PM »
It happened again.  Same gym new PT yesterday.  The gym I go to is pushing the personal trainer thing because it is pure fuckin profit.

So I see this jackass of a trainer walking in with 2 starbucks coffee and his client who is about 60 years old.

They both start off this fine hour of workout with a starbucks toast and then onto the leg press machine.  They stack on 2 plates a side and the old man starts lifting.  Now his trainer has turned his back and is playing with the gym stereo.  I see this old man litteraly pressing through the lockout position to where his knees start to buckle downwards and he does this for rep after rep.  I am just staring in amazement at how this guy is going to fuckin kill his knees and never walk again, especially at 60.  This lazy ass traniner doesn't even comment and then mopes around to the hammer bench.  Again they put on 1 plate a side and the old man is litteraly pushing the weights with his whole body lifted off of the bench.  It was a sad sight.  I felt really bad for the guy. When I was done working out , I went to the manager of the gym and commented on this new personal training service and commented on how fuckin bad these guys are.  He said he hired them based off of their credentials and shows me a list.  The one yoga pant wearing starbucks sipping bitch had a Kinesiology degree, some sort of recovery degree and a bunch of training degrees, the other guy had a degree from a really great college and again had all of these degrees for training.

So my question is.  What the fuck is the point of these degrees if the trainer is shit?  Just because someone gets a drivers  license mean they can drive well. 

I hope the manager monitors these trainers before someone seriously hurts themselves and sues his ass.

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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2007, 12:35:59 PM »
It happened again.  Same gym new PT yesterday.  The gym I go to is pushing the personal trainer thing because it is pure fuckin profit.

So I see this jackass of a trainer walking in with 2 starbucks coffee and his client who is about 60 years old.

They both start off this fine hour of workout with a starbucks toast and then onto the leg press machine.  They stack on 2 plates a side and the old man starts lifting.  Now his trainer has turned his back and is playing with the gym stereo.  I see this old man litteraly pressing through the lockout position to where his knees start to buckle downwards and he does this for rep after rep.  I am just staring in amazement at how this guy is going to fuckin kill his knees and never walk again, especially at 60.  This lazy ass traniner doesn't even comment and then mopes around to the hammer bench.  Again they put on 1 plate a side and the old man is litteraly pushing the weights with his whole body lifted off of the bench.  It was a sad sight.  I felt really bad for the guy. When I was done working out , I went to the manager of the gym and commented on this new personal training service and commented on how fuckin bad these guys are.  He said he hired them based off of their credentials and shows me a list.  The one yoga pant wearing starbucks sipping bitch had a Kinesiology degree, some sort of recovery degree and a bunch of training degrees, the other guy had a degree from a really great college and again had all of these degrees for training.

So my question is.  What the f**k is the point of these degrees if the trainer is shit?  Just because someone gets a drivers  license mean they can drive well. 

I hope the manager monitors these trainers before someone seriously hurts themselves and sues his ass.


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Re: Personal Trainers are just crap
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2007, 02:17:19 PM »
The one yoga pant wearing starbucks sipping bitch had a Kinesiology degree
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH you must really hate starbucks also...I love it..keep it up

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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2007, 02:38:29 PM »
I am blown away at how useless personal trainers can be.  Yesterday at my gym I see this typical female personal trainer with her tight black yoga pants, blonde hair in a pony tail carrying around a clipboard training this first time gym using chubby asian girl.  I felt bad for this girl.  Instead of just teaching her the basics on her first day this dumbass trainer has this poor girl rolling around on a big ball trying to do presses.  What the F*ck is it about personal trainers obsession with these overblown bouncing balls?  This bitch would not shut up either.  Instead of trying to help this poor girl or even give her pointers, she is just blabbing away about her personal shit while this girl is trying to get through a set.  I saw an ad posted on a wall that these trainers are charging $75 and hour.  $75 for this shit.  What a waste of money.  The pathetic part was that the gym was empty at the time. She could have used any machine or weight there to teach this girl what she needs to know, instead she has her rolling on her ass trying to balance on a ball.  PATHETIC.  I got in, trained and finished and she was still blabbing away talking about the most BS training philosophies.  Why do these people try to be different?

Even the guru's are pathetic.  Look at Charles Glass.  people rant and rave about him, yet most of the guys he has trained recently have gotten worse.  Jerome Ferguson dropped placing from last year, Gunter has dropped placing.  Yet Jenny Lynn won.  Basically his little techniques of avoiding heavy weights and doing some BS "unique" lifts aren't working.  But they work for little girls trying to stay lean.

I saw on the fit show that Glass was making his guys do close grip bench press with an EZ curl bar and a press machine.  Come on man.  these are 300 pounds beasts and they are doing this gay variation of a lift.  Have them do it on a bench like a real man would.  Ronnie would, Jay would but he had Gunther and Jerome looking like little fags and look how it paid off.  They both were smooth and lost a shitload of detail from last year because they aren't lifting like men anymore.

Give it up you useless personal traniners.  Years and years of experience have proved that the basics work, bench, squats, pull ups, curls etc.... Give up on this bouncy ball shit and your "unique" lifts that do nothing for anyone.  Most of these people end up losing weight and praising how good the trainer was, but in reality it was the fact they got thier asses off the couch and actually moved that helped them lose weight, not these useless personal trainers.

Rant over.  Move on, nothing to see here anymore.

damn nice.. agree with you for the most part..

cept jerome, i think jerome dropped placing because he just seems like an un-motivated lazy guy that has way too much fame.