Author Topic: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?  (Read 1313 times)

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Given that high end gaming rigs can have absolute state of the art GPU/CPU/RAM which can be better than nearly all game console's except for maybe the PS3 why don't they use joysticks instead of an awkward mouse and keyboard?

I've played a little of both and the PC games are a pain in the ass compared to modern controllers.  Are they're third party controllers that could be used with PC games that are as good as controllers use with XBOX 360, PS3 or Wii?

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 12:27:09 PM »
It's 100x easier to use a keyboard and mouse for any game. Controllers blow for anything but fighting games. Any shooting type game is 100x easier on the computer.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 01:34:04 PM »
BF is righ i only use controller for snes and nes roms
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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 01:35:48 PM »
Given that high end gaming rigs can have absolute state of the art GPU/CPU/RAM which can be better than nearly all game console's except for maybe the PS3 why don't they use joysticks instead of an awkward mouse and keyboard?

I've played a little of both and the PC games are a pain in the ass compared to modern controllers.  Are they're third party controllers that could be used with PC games that are as good as controllers use with XBOX 360, PS3 or Wii?

3rd party wii controllers for a PC. LOL NOOB

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 01:41:52 PM »
only a Consoly can ask this Question ;)

If you had ever played a shooter with a mouse and a Keyboard you would know that it beats the Controller by miles, you are so much faster and more accurate with a mouse... especially the mouse we have ATM who have insane accurate rates. Nobody with an Controller would be able to match speed and acuiracht against somebody with a mouse and keyboard... think about it, you make one flick with the mouse.. with an controller you need press the stick to target something.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 02:42:40 PM »
only a Consoly can ask this Question ;)

If you had ever played a shooter with a mouse and a Keyboard you would know that it beats the Controller by miles, you are so much faster and more accurate with a mouse... especially the mouse we have ATM who have insane accurate rates. Nobody with an Controller would be able to match speed and acuiracht against somebody with a mouse and keyboard... think about it, you make one flick with the mouse.. with an controller you need press the stick to target something.


That's a shooting game. How many different types of games are there?

Are you saying none of them would be better with a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard? If a mouse and keyboard are so much better than why don't consoles use some kind of modified keyboard and mouse to control their systems?

3rd party wii controllers for a PC. LOL NOOB

See, now was that answer so difficult? The perfect solution, wireless and third party.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 02:46:58 PM »
That's a shooting game. How many different types of games are there?

Are you saying none of them would be better with a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?


-  First person shooter  (FPS)    much better with a mouse and keyboard

-  Real time stratagy (RTS)  much better with a mouse and keyboard

-  Simulator (like microsoft flight simulator) much better with a mouse and keyboard  (more options and functioins)

-  Turn Based Stratagy (TBS) much better with a mouse and keyboard (more options and functioins)

-  Sports games  better with game controllers

-  Role Playing Game (RPG) doesn't matter which unless it's a FPS style.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2007, 02:49:32 PM »

-  First person shooter  (FPS)    much better with a mouse and keyboard

-  Real time stratagy (RTS)  much better with a mouse and keyboard

-  Simulator (like microsoft flight simulator) much better with a mouse and keyboard  (more options and functioins)

-  Turn Based Stratagy (TBS) much better with a mouse and keyboard (more options and functioins)

-  Sports games  better with game controllers

According to your post 80% of games are better with a keyboard and mouse. Why don't console manufacturers build a modified keyboard and mouse to run their games? Why use a controller instead if a keyboard and mouse are so much better?

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 02:56:10 PM »
That's a shooting game. How many different types of games are there?

Are you saying none of them would be better with a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard? If a mouse and keyboard are so much better than why don't consoles use some kind of modified keyboard and mouse to control their systems?

See, now was that answer so difficult? The perfect solution, wireless and third party.
They did ;) xBox had one a long time ago but it never cought on since Microsoft was fully aware that you cannot balance somebody playing with a Controller agains somebody with a mouse and a keyboard.
I work a long time for the Games industry so I have inside knowlage...especially when it comes down to Consoles (not that I play them I'm a PC man) but I was a manager for the Technical Requirement Group for quit a while ;)

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 03:06:57 PM »
It's 100x easier to use a keyboard and mouse for any game.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 03:16:09 PM »
According to your post 80% of games are better with a keyboard and mouse. Why don't console manufacturers build a modified keyboard and mouse to run their games? Why use a controller instead if a keyboard and mouse are so much better?

It's who they are marketing to.  Console games are marketed to people who have been using controllers all their lives.

Also RTS games are mostly on Computers.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 03:35:21 PM »
According to your post 80% of games are better with a keyboard and mouse. Why don't console manufacturers build a modified keyboard and mouse to run their games? Why use a controller instead if a keyboard and mouse are so much better?

Because it's easier to lug a 4 ounce controller around instead of a bulky ass keyboard and mouse? I don't know many people who can play with a keyboard and mouse in a chair without a desk either.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 03:43:51 PM »
Because it's easier to lug a 4 ounce controller around instead of a bulky ass keyboard and mouse? I don't know many people who can play with a keyboard and mouse in a chair without a desk either.

Yes, I took that into account that's why I said "modified keyboard and mouse". I'm not talking about a giant deskset but a modified version designed exclusively for gamers.

If it's so much better using a keyboard and mouse you would think MS, Sony and Nintendo would design a lightweight and portable pair for their systems.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 03:46:26 PM »
Yes, I took that into account that's why I said "modified keyboard and mouse". I'm not talking about a giant deskset but a modified version designed exclusively for gamers.

If it's so much better using a keyboard and mouse you would think MS, Sony and Nintendo would design a lightweight and portable pair for their systems.

Because they've done it. And they're still fucking bulky. Are you retarded? Have you never played computer games? It's easier on every level. W-a-s-d is your directional pad and you can and move your character whatever direction you want with a mouse. It's not even funny how easy it is.

Anyone who isn't stupid and has used a mouse can tell the precision is much better than a joystick. Hell, even clicking shit on their windows screen it's easy to tell.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2007, 03:49:20 PM »
Because they've done it. And they're still fucking bulky. Are you retarded? Have you never played computer games? It's easier on every level. W-a-s-d is your directional pad and you can and move your character whatever direction you want with a mouse. It's not even funny how easy it is.


apart from Sports games... it's a hell lot easier in any FPS and we don't want to even start with RTS games lol...

Controller:
mooooooove the mouse to make a selection booooooooox around the group of tanks mooooooove the mouse to the location the tanks have to go and press.

Mouse:
Click on tank, click on location you want the tanks to move

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2007, 03:56:04 PM »
Because they've done it. And they're still fucking bulky. Are you retarded? Have you never played computer games? It's easier on every level. W-a-s-d is your directional pad and you can and move your character whatever direction you want with a mouse. It's not even funny how easy it is.

Anyone who isn't stupid and has used a mouse can tell the precision is much better than a joystick. Hell, even clicking shit on their windows screen it's easy to tell.

Yes, I'm retarded. It's interesting that you belong to a fictional message board posse called "the squad" (LOL) yet you call me retarded.  ::)

Doesn't the troll thing get tiresome or are serious conversations just out of the realm of possibility?



apart from Sports games... it's a hell lot easier in any FPS and we don't want to even start with RTS games lol...

Controller:
mooooooove the mouse to make a selection booooooooox around the group of tanks mooooooove the mouse to the location the tanks have to go and press.

Mouse:
Click on tank, click on location you want the tanks to move
;D

If some third party company comes out with a modified keyboard and mouse designed specifically for XBOX or PS3 in the next few years and it revolutionizes console gaming I want royalties.  ;D

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2007, 04:08:15 PM »
Yes, I'm retarded. It's interesting that you belong to a fictional message board posse called "the squad" (LOL) yet you call me retarded.  ::)

Doesn't the troll thing get tiresome or are serious conversations just out of the realm of possibility?



It's 100x more boring being the good guy. I have serious conversations I don't even troll this board. I just don't understand what you're having such a hard time with. You can buy Halo for the PC. I have both. Play it on the computer and then play it on the Xbox. If you can't tell how much easier it is on the comp then you're an idiot.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2007, 04:11:21 PM »
It's 100x more boring being the good guy. I have serious conversations I don't even troll this board. I just don't understand what you're having such a hard time with. You can buy Halo for the PC. I have both. Play it on the computer and then play it on the Xbox. If you can't tell how much easier it is on the comp then you're an idiot.

brother it's awesome to be a good guy  ;)

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2007, 04:31:30 PM »
brother it's awesome to be a good guy  ;)

hahaha, maybe in real life. On Getbig, it's boring.

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Re: Why don't PC Games use a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2007, 04:39:26 PM »
hahaha, maybe in real life. On Getbig, it's boring.

brother seriously there is nothing better than to cyberkiss somebody who is calling you names and wants you dead :)