Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs

[Eric2]

Coleman=............

[Shockwave]

then you must hate most bodybuilder's quads since most good quads are shaped like that.

its called THIGH SWEEP.

Haha.
Nice generalization.
His quads have a unique sweep, you dont see on most others.
IMO, they look shitty, like turnips.
What the fuck is your deal?

[Hulkster]

its not a unique sweep. Just because other guys (like chris on the left) do not have as good as a sweep as ronnie does does not mean that ronnie's is unique.

it just means the other guys are lacking.

[body88]

Its easy, post a picture of Ron at 225. There is no comparison. 20 years prior Arnold owned him terribly at the same weight. You say There is no comparison, then post pictures of Ronnie 2 inches shorter and 20 lbs heavier. Actually since Ron is shorter post a shot of him at 220 as he is 2 inches shorter then Arnie is. Ronnie at 5 foot 11, 230 lbs would still be more muscular then Arnie at 6'1, 230 lbs.

He would be crushed with the same amount of muscle Arnie carried , the end. When Ronnie was lighter ( 220ish) he looked pretty small, for a pro. Someone post a picture of Ronnie when he was light, as hulk will track down some biased high quality shot, that makes Ronnie look better then he really was.

I want to see a few shots of Ron at 220.

[Hulkster]

I want to see a few shots of Ron at 220.

why? Arnold at his peak condition was 240ish.

[Shockwave]

its not a unique sweep. Just because other guys (like chris on the left) do not have as good as a sweep as ronnie does does not mean that ronnie's is unique.

it just means the other guys are lacking.

Lol.

[body88]

why? Arnold at his peak condition was 240ish.

Ok, I will give you Arnie at 240 lbs. Again, Ronnie is 2 inches shorter then Arnold. Ronnie also competes at a lower bf percentage then Arnold ever did.

Again, post a pic of Ron at 220 from early in his career. At the same muscle density with height and bf taken into account, Ronnie would be crushed by a 20 year prior Arnie. Not to mention Arnold was like 25, Ronnie turned pro at what 30 something?

The only time Ronnie is comparable to Arnie at his best, is when Ronnie was 20 plus  pounds heavier, 2 inches shorter, better conditioned (due to better technology),  many years older,  and at his all time best. All things even, bf, muscle mass, height taken into account, and age, Ronnie is killed.


That not even getting into the advances in drugs.

[Hulkster]

Lol.

well, its true.

lots of guys have cut quads but are lacking in good quad sweep.

[Shockwave]

well, its true.

lots of guys have cut quads but are lacking in good quad sweep.

Keep pushing your opinion as fact man, maybe someday you'll convince someone, considering this is a totally objective sport.
Moron.

[body88]

Ok, I will give you Arnie at 240 lbs. Again, Ronnie is 2 inches shorter then Arnold. Ronnie also competes at a lower bf percentage then Arnold ever did.

Again, post a pic of Ron at 220 from early in his career. At the same muscle density with height and bf taken into account, Ronnie would be crushed by a 20 year prior Arnie. Not to mention Arnold was like 25, Ronnie turned pro at what 30 something?

The only time Ronnie is comparable to Arnie at his best, is when Ronnie was 20 plus  pounds heavier, 2 inches shorter, better conditioned (due to better technology),  many years older,  and at his all time best. All things even, bf, muscle mass, height taken into account, and age, Ronnie is killed.

Thats not even getting into the advances in drugs.

?

[getfast81]

Most people sadly see Arnolds physique as the perfect physique with no flaws b/c he made bb a worldwide deal.  He does as does Ronnie as well.  BB is an objective sport.  Probably some morons out there that think Ken Jones is the pinnacle of BB.

[Shockwave]

Most people sadly see Arnolds physique as the perfect physique with no flaws b/c he made bb a worldwide deal.  He does as does Ronnie as well.  BB is an objective sport.  Probably some morons out there that think Ken Jones is the pinnacle of BB.

Exactly, totally objective.
Thats the beauty, everyone has their own opinion, and no one is wrong (or right).

[body88]

Exactly, totally objective.
Thats the beauty, everyone has their own opinion, and no one is wrong (or right).

Meh, in some cases.

But, if you took Arnold at his peak and then took Ronnie and made all things equal. Compensation for height in mass, drugs, bf percentage, age and condition, Arnold wins every single time. Take a look at Coleman at 220 lbs. That is with all the advances he had and competing at a lower bf, still get pwned by a 25 year old from the 70's! Ronnie is comparable when you post pics of him 20 lbs heavier, 10 years older, 20 years later and better conditioned. Those pics comparing them are of Ronnie in  high 240's at 5'11.


My questions still stands




Ok, I will give you Arnie at 240 lbs. Again, Ronnie is 2 inches shorter then Arnold. Ronnie also competes at a lower bf percentage then Arnold ever did.

Again, post a pic of Ron at 220 from early in his career. At the same muscle density with height and bf taken into account, Ronnie would be crushed by a 20 year prior Arnie. Not to mention Arnold was like 25, Ronnie turned pro at what 30 something?

The only time Ronnie is comparable to Arnie at his best, is when Ronnie was 20 plus  pounds heavier, 2 inches shorter, better conditioned (due to better technology),  many years older,  and at his all time best. All things even, bf, muscle mass, height taken into account, and age, Ronnie is killed.

Thats not even getting into the advances in drugs.

[Shockwave]

I totally agree, Arnie was far ahead of his time.
Unfortunatley, there is no fair way to compare the two.
I still think Arnold looks far better than Ronnie, though.

[ether]

Arnold Owning "your boy"





Post a side chest where ronnie can hang with a 20 year old oak....

[getfast81]

Ronnie still cant do this.................

[Hulkster]

Ok, I will give you Arnie at 240 lbs. Again, Ronnie is 2 inches shorter then Arnold. Ronnie also competes at a lower bf percentage then Arnold ever did.

Again, post a pic of Ron at 220 from early in his career. At the same muscle density with height and bf taken into account, Ronnie would be crushed by a 20 year prior Arnie. Not to mention Arnold was like 25, Ronnie turned pro at what 30 something?

The only time Ronnie is comparable to Arnie at his best, is when Ronnie was 20 plus  pounds heavier, 2 inches shorter, better conditioned (due to better technology),  many years older,  and at his all time best. All things even, bf, muscle mass, height taken into account, and age, Ronnie is killed.


That not even getting into the advances in drugs.

here is a young Ronnie:


I think Arnold would still have a lot of trouble with this.

sure, Ronnie was not as big and wide and full as he was in 99, but you can still see, that, like Arnold, the potential to dominate the sport was there..and it was eventually realized...

other than his abs and calves, Ronnie's genetics were pretty damn good.

[Royalty]

here is a young Ronnie:


I think Arnold would still have a lot of trouble with this.

sure, Ronnie was not as big and wide and full as he was in 99, but you can still see, that, like Arnold, the potential to dominate the sport was there..and it was eventually realized...

other than his abs and calves, Ronnie's genetics were pretty damn good.

One of Ronnies big weakness back in day, was his delts. When he cranked up his bodyweight in 1999, that problem dissapeared.

[Hulkster]

One of Ronnies big weakness back in day, was his delts. When he cranked up his bodyweight in 1999, that problem dissapeared.

no kidding!:

[tommywishbone]

Awesome shot.

[Pollux]

Ronnie still cant do this.................

Kill 100 guerrillas without being shot once?

[getfast81]

Kill 100 guerrillas without being shot once?

Damn straight..............

[Pollux]

Damn straight..............

HAHAHA... too funny! 

[Pollux]

Something tells me this will be the NEW "Hulkster I'm Calling a Truce" thread.

[body88]

Still an unfair advantage for Ronnie, but whatever. Ronnie is way more ripped then Arnie ever was. I never said Ronnie did not have good genetics. Ronnie has awesome genetics ( that where discovered when he was in the high 240's in 98 - 99) he looked average for a pro when he first started, sub 230 lbs.I merley stated that all things equal, body mass, height taken into account ( which would make Ronnie have to weigh about 220), bf percentage, and age, Ronnie is stomped. The only true comparison of the two are of the pictures you posted in 98 - 99 when Ronnie was 20 lbs heavier at 2 inches shorter. That is 30 years after the pics of Arnold where taken. Arnold still at least "compares" with those shots.

Ronnie turned pro over ten years later then Arnold. That picture is a very good shot of Ronnie at a lighter bodyweight. I have seen pictures where he looked pretty small for a pro when he first started competing. I cannot find them. I am skeptical Ronnie is 220 in that shot.

Not very hard to see with all things equal Arnold would have had the better physique. Bot at 25 with the same years training, same drugs,same techonology, same body mass ( take into account the height) game over. Add in Arnies calves dwarfing those of Ronnie and, imo Arnie is better.