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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #125 on: February 04, 2007, 10:12:34 AM »
arnold squatted alot.i heard his max suqat was around 600lbs..he was poerlifter before he started bodybuilding.he came second at the german power lifting competition in 1967 or 68

Yes, that is true, below are a few pictures to illustrate. My point is, he could of really focused on his quads like he did his calves, but he didn't want them to be any bigger. He felt it would have thrown off his lines.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
Im glad Im not the only one that sees those glaring imbalances.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2007, 10:32:02 AM »
Yes, that is true, below are a few pictures to illustrate. My point is, he could of really focused on his quads like he did his calves, but he didn't want them to be any bigger. He felt it would have thrown off his lines.


awesome pics dude.he was a big squatter
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #128 on: February 04, 2007, 10:45:22 AM »
Dorian wasn't even brought up, jackass.
You're just pissed because other people find the same faults in Ronnie, weather you choose to acknowledge them or not.

of course dorian wasn't brought up.

I used him to show how delusional and biased your arguments are.

you pick and choose which faults to see and not to see...
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #129 on: February 04, 2007, 11:02:42 AM »
I suppose thats why other people see his faults too?
I do like your lawyer tactics though, try and discredit peoples opinions based on non-related arguments.
Are you sure you don't work for a Law Firm?

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #130 on: February 04, 2007, 11:08:33 AM »
All  things equal Arnie wins. Even in these "equal" shots, Ronnie enjoys big advantages. Better drugs, over 10 years older, better nutrition, better equipment, better food, better technology ( picture quality) and better skin tone. With all these advnatages Ronnie still gets pwned by a guy who competed 20+ years before!

You really see the quality of Arnies muscle when you consider he is 2 inches taller then Ronnie, and they both have about the same muscle mass in these shots.












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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #131 on: February 04, 2007, 11:10:27 AM »
All  things equal Arnie wins. Even in these "equal" shots, Ronnie enjoys big advantages. Better drugs, over 10 years older, better nutrition, better equipment, better food, better technology ( picture quality) and better skin tone. With all these advnatages Ronnie still gets pwned by a guy who competed 20+ years before!

You really see the quality of Arnies mass when you consider he is 3 inches taller then Ronnie and they both have about the same muscle mass in these shots.














Very true.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #132 on: February 04, 2007, 11:17:08 AM »
All  things equal Arnie wins. Even in these "equal" shots, Ronnie enjoys big advantages. Better drugs, over 10 years older, better nutrition, better equipment, better food, better technology ( picture quality) and better skin tone. With all these advnatages Ronnie still gets pwned by a guy who competed 20+ years before!

You really see the quality of Arnies muscle when you consider he is 2 inches taller then Ronnie, and they both have about the same muscle mass in these shots.














but there is one problem here: Arnold is probably more like 240-245 in those shots, espc. the most muscular (taken in 1973), not 220ish.

if you want to compare Ronnie to Arnold, ronnie's 245 pounds in his 2001 Arnold Classic form is a little closer in terms of weight. And it shows him when he had muscular maturity, something that he certainly did not in that early stage of his career in the 95 shots.

but again, even still, the whole comparison is flawed. We are comparing different eras 30 years apart.

If Arnolds 240 pound best competed against Ronnie's 245-7 pound Arnold Classic form, Arnold would be defeated quite easily.

but if Arnold had access to todays GH, techniques, contest prep programs etc., well, that is a different story. tough to say there..

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2007, 11:22:16 AM »
but there is one problem here: Arnold is probably more like 240-245 in those shots, espc. the most muscular (taken in 1973), not 220ish.

if you want to compare Ronnie to Arnold, ronnie's 245 pounds in his 2001 Arnold Classic form is a little closer in terms of weight. And it shows him when he had muscular maturity, something that he certainly did not in that early stage of his career in the 95 shots.

but again, even still, the whole comparison is flawed. We are comparing different eras 30 years apart.



If Arnolds 240 pound best competed against Ronnie's 245-7 pound Arnold Classic form, Arnold would be defeated quite easily.

but if Arnold had access to todays GH, techniques, contest prep programs etc., well, that is a different story. tough to say there..





I admitted Arnold was 240 in those shots. Arnie is also 6'2 , Ronnie is 5'11. Ronnie at 5'11 220, has the same amount of muscle mass as Arnie at 6'2 240. not to mention Ronnie is prob about 3 percent bodyfat, while Arnie admitted never competing lower then 6 percent. No one was 3 percent in Arnies days. Ronnie might even have a higher mass to height ratio then Arnie, but I will say they are equal.

The point is, with Ronnies supposed greatest genetics ever, and a 20 year advantage in drugs, training knowledge, nutrition and technology there should be no comparison at the same muscle mass percentage. The facts are, Ronnie gets stomped when all things are equal. The fact you can compare the two, and Ronnie looks inferior shows how good Arnold really was.I could only imagine Arnold at the age of 35, if he had continued to train seriously.













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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #134 on: February 04, 2007, 11:39:05 AM »
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The point is, with Ronnies supposed greatest genetics ever,

I don't think Ronnie has the greatest genetics ever.

damn good. but not the greatest - his abs are genetically flawed big time. and his calves have always lagged behind.
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2007, 11:41:24 AM »
I don't think Ronnie has the greatest genetics ever.

damn good. but not the greatest - his abs are genetically flawed big time. and his calves have always lagged behind.


My mistake, I meant to type greatest ever. Which is highly subective anyway. I think Ronnie possesed one of the greatest physiques of all time in 98.

I believe Arnie is the greatest ever, for the reason I stated above.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2007, 12:00:45 PM »
Ronnie's FIRST contest win...





Arnold's FIRST contest win...


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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2007, 02:19:06 PM »
Ronnie's trophy is bigger than Arnold's trophy 8)
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2007, 05:14:11 PM »
Ronnie's trophy is bigger than Arnold's trophy 8)

But Arnold's trophy is more reputable. Mr. Universe as opposed to Mr. Texas.  8)

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2007, 05:15:42 PM »
But Arnold's trophy is more reputable. Mr. Universe as opposed to Mr. Texas.  8)

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #140 on: February 04, 2007, 05:23:36 PM »
But Arnold's trophy is more reputable. Mr. Universe as opposed to Mr. Texas.  8)

yes, but in today's world, Mr. Texas is about equivalent to Mr. Universe 8)
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2007, 05:25:23 PM »
yes, but in today's world, Mr. Texas is about equivalent to Mr. Universe 8)

Not to mention Arnold looked better then Ronnie in those pics. What was Arnold 17 there? Ronnie is like 25 in those shots isnt he?

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #142 on: February 04, 2007, 05:27:40 PM »
What was Arnold 17 there?

No. He was 20 for his 1967 Mr. Universe win.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #143 on: February 04, 2007, 05:28:24 PM »
Ronnie started late, so he just used more drugs to catch up, hence the bloated look, film of water under his skin, and severe gyno. How much do you think Ronnie will weigh after he retires? 220 tops.
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #144 on: February 04, 2007, 05:42:16 PM »
What was Arnold 17 there?

This is Arnold at 17 competing in the Mr. Steirmark where he came in 4th.



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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #145 on: February 04, 2007, 06:28:58 PM »
  Hulkster's love for Ronnie is actually endearing. No, seriously. If husbands and wives loved each other as much as Hulkster loves Ronnie, divorce and all the social problems caused by it would disappear.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #146 on: February 04, 2007, 06:34:28 PM »
  Hulkster's love for Ronnie is actually endearing. No, seriously. If husbands and wives loved each other as much as Hulkster loves Ronnie, divorce and all the social problems caused by it would disappear.

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #147 on: February 04, 2007, 06:35:03 PM »
  Hulkster's love for Ronnie is actually endearing. No, seriously. If husbands and wives loved each other as much as Hulkster loves Ronnie, divorce and all the social problems caused by it would disappear.

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its not love.

I just know a killer physique (in his 98/99 or 01 AC form) when I see one.. 8)
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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #148 on: February 04, 2007, 07:08:01 PM »
if this is arnold at 17....



and this is arnold at 19



that's a hell of a change in 2 years...gear?

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Re: Ronnie vs Arnold. Switched legs
« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2007, 07:23:10 PM »
synthol 8)
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