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Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« on: February 07, 2007, 12:49:08 PM »
"An Army officer who investigated possible abuse at Guantanamo Bay after some guards purportedly bragged about beating detainees found no evidence they mistreated the prisoners — although he did not interview any of the alleged victims, the U.S. military said Wednesday."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070207/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_abuse_probe

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2007, 12:59:02 PM »
HA!

Remember the reporter who heard two CIA agents bragging about the ass whooping they delivered?  Or the Agents who took out personal insurance because they were nervous about the car battery/genitals' effect on their retirement should they get sued.

Or perhaps the White House document saying it's A-okay to torture them.

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 02:02:54 PM »
A UN rep from Belgium at Gitmo: "They get much better treatment here than common criminals back in my country."

In Bin Ladens handbook he instructs any captured terrorists to accuse westernors of torture and mistreatment to get sympathy from the media.
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 02:07:15 PM »
A UN rep from Belgium at Gitmo: "They get much better treatment here than common criminals back in my country."

In Bin Ladens handbook he instructs any captured terrorists to accuse westernors of torture and mistreatment to get sympathy from the media.

1) How they'd get treated by other societies should influence ours?  Um, no.  Because they chop off two hands for stealing, it's okay for us to only lop off a few fingers?  Are you defending torture?

2) The torture was admitted, no BRAGGED ABOUT, by US agents.  Are you seriously doubting it happened?

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 02:22:27 PM »
The society that was being compared was not a muslim, african, communist, or fascist one; it was Belgium.

According to one bitch, they bragged about it. All of the witnesses and suspects stories, when interviewed sperately by multiple investigators, had the same stories.  you and I both know some bitches can be crazy and vengeful.   

If beatings do happen from time to time, I am not too concerned.  Prison guards don't beat up random prisoners, they beat up the worst and most violent.  If they are beating up the worst of the terrorist scum who would love to collectively behead our country than I really don't care.  In fact, for the worst cases I would like to see them being forced to watch korans getting burned and otherwise destroyed in front of them. Do you know what they would like to do to our loved ones simply for being infidels? They will get no sympathy from  me

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 02:31:03 PM »
1) Why is the witness a 'bitch'?

2) What reason do we have to believe she is lying?

3) Would you be concerned about the occasional beating if you were the one being interrogated?  Or, if the man being beaten was later released and taught 1000 of his followers to beat US soldiers when captured?

Dude, the USA used to be the beacon for what was RIGHT with the world.  Justifying an occasional beating isn't dignified and isn't honorable.  The US used to take the moral high ground.  What happened?

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2007, 02:36:55 PM »
It is her word for 20+ others.   I seriously doubt that any naval guards ever "bragged"  about the beatings.  Their is so much of a microscope on gitmo that officers are making sure taht prisoners do not get  beaten or tortured by enlisted men.  If there was any torture, it would be done by experts in that field, not some E-4 19 year old.  Most likely she made it up.

America does still stand for waht is right in this world.   Obvi, i dont want some detainee with less then certain terrorist ties messed with. 
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 02:53:30 PM »
America does still stand for waht is right in this world. 

I have to wonder then - why has world perception of us changed so much in the last 5 to 10 years?

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2007, 02:56:28 PM »
I have to wonder then - why has world perception of us changed so much in the last 5 to 10 years?


Yeah, you gotta wonder...


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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2007, 03:02:23 PM »
Any danger of you bleeding hearts posting some pics of dead civilians from terror attacks, you know, just to be 'balanced'?

240, RN, your soft touch for this scum speaks wonders.
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2007, 03:06:10 PM »
Any danger of you bleeding hearts posting some pics of dead civilians from terror attacks, you know, just to be 'balanced'?

240, RN, your soft touch for this scum speaks wonders.


I see you disrespect nurses.  I'm calling the ACLU.  I have their card right here.


If we do want to post terror pics, let the number be proportionate.

3k terror attacks in US.
3k dead US soldiers.
150k dead civilians in Iraq.

thanks!

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 03:39:13 PM »
Any danger of you bleeding hearts posting some pics of dead civilians from terror attacks, you know, just to be 'balanced'?

Typical right-wing shell-game...

We're not responsible for what terrorists do. We're responsible for what American soldiers do.

You also try to sneak past the assumption that torturing prisoners does anything to combat terror - when in fact it increases the anti-American fanaticism that promotes terror.

Better luck next time.  ::)

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2007, 03:59:28 PM »
that pic is from abu grab (sp?)? i dont thik so
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2007, 04:01:16 PM »
that soldier is trying to help that person most likely. they probably rescued him from some band of local thugs.  if it happened in a us prison why is the sodlier wearing his helmet with night vision attached to it and also heavily armed?
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2007, 04:08:40 PM »
that pic is from abu grab (sp?)? i dont thik so

I found it in a Yahoo image search for "abu ghraib".

More than that I can't say.

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2007, 04:14:14 PM »
I found it in a Yahoo image search for "abu ghraib".

More than that I can't say.

Sigh, you are possibly the poorest researcher on this site, and that's saying a lot.  Go post someone else's long and boring article from some Left-Wing rag, would you?
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2007, 04:27:17 PM »
And while you're at it, perhaps look up a definition of 'Right-Wing'.  You embarass yourself by labelling others (like me) as such.
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2007, 04:34:43 PM »
Quality contribution there, BRUCE.   ::)

Quality rebuttal.  Found any other people’s work to clog this board up with yet?  Or have you developed any ideas or opinions of your own?

Perhaps you are concerned you’ll be exposed as a deceiver, again.
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2007, 04:35:31 PM »
Go post someone else's long and boring article from some Left-Wing rag, would you?

You're the last person I'd have expected to insult a decorated war hero, BRUCE. 

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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2007, 04:37:06 PM »
You're the last person I'd have expected to insult a decorated war hero, BRUCE. 

Nice attempted deception.  Keep working on that, okay?
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2007, 04:41:39 PM »
Interesting you would make this comment in defence of a brave soldier, Ribonucleic, in light of this post:

Coming after that, your categorization of me as a "blowhard" was especially amusing.  :)

And you're absolutely right on the central point: I want us to lose.  Did you think I would deny it - or be embarrassed by the accusation? Far from it.

You're god-damned right I want us to lose.


And your participation on such matters is deemed so worthy here, considering this comment you made on dead Aussie soldier’s (Private Jake Kovco) family:

First Australian soldier killed in Iraq, eh?

Is his family upset that the Australian government sent him to his death in order to secure American access to Iraqi oil reserves?

You smug fool.
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Re: Military: No Gitmo guard abuse evident
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2007, 04:56:33 PM »
Any danger of you bleeding hearts posting some pics of dead civilians from terror attacks, you know, just to be 'balanced'?

240, RN, your soft touch for this scum speaks wonders.

Tell me about.  Sad that people take such pleasure in bad news about our country and our military.