WINDOWS VISTA!!!!! Who's got it?

[Havenbull]

What are you initial reactions, comments, concerns?

[tu_holmes]

We have it for certain things in the office... I am not impressed.

[Slin1]

I think it sucks but i am gonna get it anyway for the dx10

[24KT]

I'd be very VERY careful if I were you. Vista basically takes control of your computer.

You relinquish control, and Vista scours your hard drive deleting programs it deems illegal without your knowledge.

Considering how many new software programs are written daily, I wouldn't want an outdated operating system determining what is and what isn't an illegal program, let alone deleting things from my harddrive with neither my knowledge nor consent. Just a warning. Do with it what you will.

[Havenbull]

You relinquish control, and Vista scours your hard drive deleting programs it deems illegal without your knowledge.

What do people think of the new GUI

[24KT]

What do people think of the new GUI

GUI? please elaborate?

[youandme]

I'd be very VERY careful if I were you. Vista basically takes control of your computer.

You relinquish control, and Vista scours your hard drive deleting programs it deems illegal without your knowledge.

Considering how many new software programs are written daily, I wouldn't want an outdated operating system determining what is and what isn't an illegal program, let alone deleting things from my harddrive with neither my knowledge nor consent. Just a warning. Do with it what you will.

Damn I never heard that! I have 2 friends that have it and they are both real tech savy and they both agreed it has alot of problems.

[Debussey]

GUI? please elaborate?

Graphical User Interface.

If you are to teach us the "dangers" of Vista, you better learn basic shit first.

[tu_holmes]

Graphical User Interface.

If you are to teach us the "dangers" of Vista, you better learn basic shit first.

Hah!!!

Vista does not scour your hard drive looking for illegal software.

It does have some DRM built into it so you can not copy protected content... It also has the "Microsoft Advantage" turned on by default, to eliminate people using the same keys on multiple machines.

I don't really use windows anywhere, so that stuff doesn't affect me, but it does have some native encryption ability so that it can encrypt a hard drive and others can not get to the information if it gets lost or stolen.

However, the NSA worked with Microsoft on it's security, so you never know if Big brother put some stuff in there to come and get ya.

It looks pretty, but if you think it's THAT great, you're mistaken...

Try this:

This guys video card sucks though... Mine doesn't do any of the blink on and off shit.

This one is decent too:

&NR

[beatmaster]

window........ never, I'll stay with mac os 10.4

and as usual window copied mac, with their new vista.....

[tu_holmes]

window........ never, I'll stay with mac os 10.4

and as usual window copied mac, with their new vista.....

Come now, we must all admit that they all copy items from each other... Linux, Windows, Solaris, OS X... They are all copycats in some way... Windows just seems to be the BIGGEST  copier of ideas.

[beatmaster]

Come now, we must all admit that they all copy items from each other... Linux, Windows, Solaris, OS X... They are all copycats in some way... Windows just seems to be the BIGGEST  copier of ideas.

true, but for vista, it's more than usual...

i've been with mac since 1990, i can't remember mac copying someone else, in fact mac gave window away.... that's why there is mac os!!!

[tu_holmes]

true, but for vista, it's more than usual...

i've been with mac since 1990, i can't remember mac copying someone else, in fact mac gave window away.... that's why there is mac os!!!

Actually, the spotlight software had been done before and the new "backup" system they're putting in 10.5 is a rip off of someone else.

All windowing was stolen from Xerox back in the 70s btw.

[beatmaster]

Actually, the spotlight software had been done before

i don't know about spotlight...........

and the new "backup" system they're putting in 10.5 is a rip off of someone else...

......."this was never done before (if your talking a about backup system, well it's not the same thing)"

All windowing was stolen from Xerox back in the 70s btw...

............''true to some point but they when in court, mac made better modifications to the system, but lost, the system you know today is the new one"..

but seriously, mac is by far the best operating system ever (mac os 10 +, before that, it was not that good).

anyway let's just say i like mac best........... and it's ok to like vista, if you like window!

[tu_holmes]

but seriously, mac is by far the best operating system ever (mac os 10 +, before that, it was not that good).

anyway let's just say i like mac best........... and it's ok to like vista, if you like window!

Take a look at Windows Shadow Copy... That's the idea Time Machine from OS X is based on.

Windowing is not a "new" system from OS X... Yes, the guys at apple produced the new Quartz Engine... but the general Idea of Windowing is still the idea which everyone took from Xerox...

I use Macs too... I have no Windows machines at all, I'm just saying, they all copy in their own way from other people.

[Nordic Superman]

but seriously, mac is by far the best operating system ever (mac os 10 +, before that, it was not that good).

anyway let's just say i like mac best........... and it's ok to like vista, if you like window!

Best ever?

Try running a cluster of macs for grid computing like you can with Linux.

Try running a copy of Mac OS on non-apple hardware. You're just another MacSheep!

Those Beryl movies are pretty good, I myself have it running on opensuse and it's ok I guess, still needs some rough edges polishing before it's as complete as vista tho. And some of the effects are just pointless and gay!

[bmacsys]

OS X. Forget about any software from Microsoft. Apple is a great, innovative company. That drives Bill Gates crazy to no end.

[fearANDloathing]

window........ never, I'll stay with mac os 10.4

and as usual window copied mac, with their new vista.....

You Know it! Vista will no doubt be just as successful as the M$ ZUNE

[Nordic Superman]

OS X. Forget about any software from Microsoft. Apple is a great, innovative company. That drives Bill Gates crazy to no end.

When are you Apple zealots going to realise Apple is just as bad as Microsoft...

Maybe even worse... lets' not's forget the years of hyping IBM PowerPC CPUs as a superior product to Intel/AMD offerings... only to be reversed when they switched to Intel

You mugs get played time and time again by the Apple marketting department, and Mr. Jobs' bank loves you for it!

If you wanna do something for society, make the switch to Linux...

[ieffinhatecardio]

When are you Apple zealots going to realise Apple is just as bad as Microsoft...

Maybe even worse... lets' not's forget the years of hyping IBM PowerPC CPUs as a superior product to Intel/AMD offerings... only to be reversed when they switched to Intel

You mugs get played time and time again by the Apple marketting department, and Mr. Jobs' bank loves you for it!

If you wanna do something for society, make the switch to Linux...

My favorite are the iPod zealots, like no other MP3 player can compare. Yet the conveniently dismiss the inherent problems with iTunes. 

[tu_holmes]

My favorite are the iPod zealots, like no other MP3 player can compare. Yet the conveniently dismiss the inherent problems with iTunes. 

Well, iTunes has problems no doubt, but the user interface of the iPod is second to none... At least to me.

I run Fedora pretty much everywhere... I did have OS X on my Dell... yes, my dell, but the sound never worked right, so I put Fedora back on that.

All I run is linux for the most part...

I do like OS X... I have a Dual G5 powermac and it's still a great machine... Does everything I want.

The G5 is a great CPU... I think the powerpc is better than Intel or AMD... I think Apple switched to Intel for mobile reasons... IBM never could get a cool G5 in a mobile machine and that was killing Apple's business... 1/2 of all of their sales are mobile machines.

I run Windows under VMWare (using the new 6.0 beta right now) and it's fine for what I need it for. (Mostly dealing with work applications), so I use them all... I'm just not impressed with Vista.

I'm not Apple Fanboy by any stretch... It's a tool, nothing more... the best tool gets my money nothing else.

If they made iTunes for Linux (cause yes, I have an ipod and I really like it) then I would never use a Mac or Windows again most likely.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Well, iTunes has problems no doubt, but the user interface of the iPod is second to none... At least to me.

I run Fedora pretty much everywhere... I did have OS X on my Dell... yes, my dell, but the sound never worked right, so I put Fedora back on that.

All I run is linux for the most part...

I do like OS X... I have a Dual G5 powermac and it's still a great machine... Does everything I want.

The G5 is a great CPU... I think the powerpc is better than Intel or AMD... I think Apple switched to Intel for mobile reasons... IBM never could get a cool G5 in a mobile machine and that was killing Apple's business... 1/2 of all of their sales are mobile machines.

I run Windows under VMWare (using the new 6.0 beta right now) and it's fine for what I need it for. (Mostly dealing with work applications), so I use them all... I'm just not impressed with Vista.

I'm not Apple Fanboy by any stretch... It's a tool, nothing more... the best tool gets my money nothing else.

If they made iTunes for Linux (cause yes, I have an ipod and I really like it) then I would never use a Mac or Windows again most likely.

Did you know there's a Linux mod. for your iPod? It allows you to get away with using your iPod but not being locked into iTunes.

http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page

[tu_holmes]

Did you know there's a Linux mod. for your iPod? It allows you to get away with using your iPod but not being locked into iTunes.

http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page

Well, I can use my ipod with Amarok and it will do just fine... unfortunately I have bought some stuff from the iTunes Music store and it is DRM'd of course.

I think I will go through the motion of finding all of those songs and actually buying them from a nice site, like allofmp3.com or what not.

Yes, I know... Russian Mafia and all that... can they really be anymore crooked than any other corporation though?

[24KT]

Graphical User Interface.

If you are to teach us the "dangers" of Vista, you better learn basic shit first.

{blush} 

[24KT]

window........ never, I'll stay with mac os 10.4

and as usual window copied mac, with their new vista.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co9qBme4Dgk