Luke Wood half squatting a massive 205 with a safety squat bar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[doison]

once again, you're completely off-base.

1) aichs did it without a belt and without knee wraps, as did bernor. find out what you can squat for 10 beltless and wrapless, then do it again with both and tell me what kind of a difference it makes.

2) repeat the above, except when you do the belted and squatted set, don't go down as far. if you think there's only  aminor difference between over 750 pounds for five or six reps to parallel with no knee wraps and no belt, versus 10 reps with 675 not the whole way down with wraps and with a belt, then you're fucking retarded. period.

3) platz did not have his knees wrapped.

just something around his left upper thigh, which adds nothing. and don't try and tell me he's wearing a suit, this was way before a squat suit amounted to anything more than an ace bandage, IF he's wearing one.

4) JP Fux did 675 for i think five reps in his "Hardcore" video. and he was depleted for a contest.

you can try and attack me personally all you want, but the fact is you're WRONG.

I spoke with Clay Brandenburg last night, who knows Aichs, and Aichs said no way Wood could do 675 for 10.  Aichs said that he couldn't do 675 for 10, even with knee wraps. 

But, I'll be sure to consult with you for all things strength related from now on, as you clearly are the world expert now. 

I changed the oil in my car last night....I'm kind of getting into car mods.  I'm going to head to some car mod boards, and proclaim myself an expert now. 

[MisterMagoo]

hahahaha, sure you did. aichs can do 750 or so without a belt or wraps for five or six, but with a belt AND wraps he can't do 75 pounds less for more reps without going as deep? and that means chad aichs isn't stronger than JP fux, who was a mid-level bodybuilder in his prime.

JP fux is on tape hitting 5 or 6 reps with 675 to parallel while dieting for a contest. it's on fucking video. be sure to let people out there know that JP fux was one of the greatest squatters of all time because he did something no one else could.

once again, andy bolton deadlifted 800 for 8 raw and his max pull is 1003. even assuming that you can get 300 pounds more out of your gear squatting than you can pulling that's getting a 1300 single from 800x8 raw, not 675x10.

maybe you should get into cars, possibly car sales, because you're pretty good at bullshitting. bring your friend with the 750 raw pull who's too afraid to do a competition. 

[IceCold]

How many times can Luke Wood embarrass himself and Milos before Milos finally distances himself? Luke sucks.

i guess until milos gets arrested again. 

[doison]

hahahaha, sure you did. aichs can do 750 or so without a belt or wraps for five or six, but with a belt AND wraps he can't do 75 pounds less for more reps without going as deep? and that means chad aichs isn't stronger than JP fux, who was a mid-level bodybuilder in his prime.

JP fux is on tape hitting 5 or 6 reps with 675 to parallel while dieting for a contest. it's on fucking video. be sure to let people out there know that JP fux was one of the greatest squatters of all time because he did something no one else could.

once again, andy bolton deadlifted 800 for 8 raw and his max pull is 1003. even assuming that you can get 300 pounds more out of your gear squatting than you can pulling that's getting a 1300 single from 800x8 raw, not 675x10.

maybe you should get into cars, possibly car sales, because you're pretty good at bullshitting. bring your friend with the 750 raw pull who's too afraid to do a competition. 

saying the "F" word....you're really getting worked up over this.  You've been around too long to get so worked up over something.  I'll be sure to tell Clay and the boys over at Detroit Barbell that if they ever want to know how much to shoot for at their next meets, to tell you one of their lifts, so you can decipher exactly what they can lift. 

Matt Kroczaleski is a pretty decent squatter, I was telling him about you last night.  He is interested in meeting the man child who thinks 675 for 10 for a suitless squat is nothing to write home about. 

[MisterMagoo]

your problem is that you're severely distorting what i'm saying. first you accused me of saying wood could do 675 for "10 deep reps" when i explicitly said he was certainly not hitting parallel. now you accuse me of saying 675x10 is "nothing to write home about", which i didn't say either. i said it was possible.

YOU said it was impossible, and that there is no powerlifter alive who could squat 675 for 10 with a belt and knee wraps to above-parallel depth, which i am calling absolute bullshit on.

i have a history lesson for you. a man named tom platz. tom platz could squat 495 for 23 wrapless with the bar high and a close stance ass to grass years after his prime. during his prime he was doing 585 for sets of 15, among other feats you would claim impossible. could he outsquat someone like fred hatfield? hell no, but he could out rep him every time. think about that for a moment.

[doison]

your problem is that you're severely distorting what i'm saying. first you accused me of saying wood could do 675 for "10 deep reps" when i explicitly said he was certainly not hitting parallel. now you accuse me of saying 675x10 is "nothing to write home about", which i didn't say either. i said it was possible.

YOU said it was impossible, and that there is no powerlifter alive who could squat 675 for 10 with a belt and knee wraps to above-parallel depth, which i am calling absolute bullshit on.

i have a history lesson for you. a man named tom platz. tom platz could squat 495 for 23 wrapless with the bar high and a close stance ass to grass years after his prime. during his prime he was doing 585 for sets of 15, among other feats you would claim impossible. could he outsquat someone like fred hatfield? hell no, but he could out rep him every time. think about that for a moment.

Find where I said it was impossible.  If you can find that post, where I state what you claim, I will shut up.  But, i don't believe you will find that post.
In reality, we are doing what everyone on this board is doing, slowly and slightly distorting what the other is saying to make our point until the initial point is irrelevant. 

I don't believe for a second that Luke Wood can do 675 for 10 on squats anywhere near parallel, or anywhere near what someone would consider a "good" squat.  If you think he can, that's fine, I suppose that is your choice.

[MisterMagoo]

buddy, you said this:

That is probably the most impressive lift of all time.  Kirk Karwaski is probably the best pure squatter of all time, and he would likely not be able to squat 7 plates for 10, and definitely not without breaking a sweat. 

That would probably translate to around 1,300lb WPO squat.  Luke is the strongest man who ever lived!

if that's not the equivalent of calling it "impossible", then i don't know what is.

all i was saying is that i honestly believe there are a number of top-level powerlifters capable of hitting 675 for 10 in knee wraps and a belt, to parallel, and that allowing luke to hit "bodybuilder depth" it's possible, given that other bodybuilders have used the same weight with fewer reps, and while dieted down.

[doison]

buddy, you said this:

if that's not the equivalent of calling it "impossible", then i don't know what is.

all i was saying is that i honestly believe there are a number of top-level powerlifters capable of hitting 675 for 10 in knee wraps and a belt, to parallel, and that allowing luke to hit "bodybuilder depth" it's possible, given that other bodybuilders have used the same weight with fewer reps, and while dieted down.

That was more allegory or hyperbole than me saying it was impossible. 
You should know by now that the appearance of an exclamation mark at the end of sentence makes the contents of the sentence null and void in terms of truthfulness.

I've seen Luke lift while he was in the states....he's always around contest shape at that time....but he doesn't do 675 for 10.  I've seen some powerlifters handle near 700lbs without equipment, and it is insane what the strain appears to be on their body. 

[MisterMagoo]

That was more allegory or hyperbole than me saying it was impossible. 

you said it was "probably the most impressive lift of all time", that it would translate to a squat 80 pounds higher than the current WPO record, and then sarcastically said luke was the strongest man in history (clearly stating that, if it were true, he would be, because you believe no one else to be capable of it). that is the absolute equivalent of saying you don't think there is a single human being capable of it.

don't backtrack now, you said what you said, and then denied what you said. don't make it worse by claiming what you said meant something else.

[The Squadfather]

i don't think that 675 for 10 half reps is out of the question for a man as big as Luke to be honest but i also agree with doison about 700 being ungodly heavy without equipment, i took 700 out of the rack one time just to stand with it and my nose bled and it felt like i was going to loose my teeth.

[davidpaul]

i don't think that 675 for 10 half reps is out of the question for a man as big as Luke to be honest but i also agree with doison about 700 being ungodly heavy without equipment, i took 700 out of the rack one time just to stand with it and my nose bled and it felt like i was going to loose my teeth.

haha if u held it long enough it would have counted as a sonbaty set, that fucker grew just looking at weight.

[Livewire]

nassers' about as strong as a shirley temple shot.



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[doison]

you said it was "probably the most impressive lift of all time", that it would translate to a squat 80 pounds higher than the current WPO record, and then sarcastically said luke was the strongest man in history (clearly stating that, if it were true, he would be, because you believe no one else to be capable of it). that is the absolute equivalent of saying you don't think there is a single human being capable of it.

don't backtrack now, you said what you said, and then denied what you said. don't make it worse by claiming what you said meant something else.

Okay, fine....
I know a lot of very strong men.  Few of them can squat 675 for 10....VERY few.  And none of them can do it "without breaking a sweat" as was the original claim. 

What's next in the rules of internet arguing?  Do I now mock you for having a 335 raw bench, when I was doing that in high school? 
Or do I mock the fact that you can't do a 2,000lb total geared to the max? 

Or...do I mock the fact that you speak from the perspective of a powerlifting legend when you haven't even done a meet yet?

[D.L. 5]

why do knee straps allow u to lift more? dont they just keep the joint warm?

[MisterMagoo]

sigh, time for another of my patented magoo lists.

1) i never said luke could do it without breaking a sweat. that was milos's term, i never agreed with it.

2) why mock me at all? why is it you insist on personal potshots? i argued with you and you VERY quickly started mocking me.

3) when did i say i was a powerlifting legend? did i at ANY point say i was anything special? have i ever claimed i know all about powerlifting?

4) you said 'very few' of those 'very strong men' you know can do 675 for ten. you didn't say "none", which means some of them can. how many of them have a 1,300 pound geared squat? i'm just curious, since that WAS your claim.

you're just mad because i called you on something ridiculous, and now you're stuck with backpedaling and personal attacks. calm down, kid. 

[D.L. 5]

i don't think that 675 for 10 half reps is out of the question for a man as big as Luke

yes forget the vids...see him in real life or at a show...luke wood holds his own

[Alex23]

Sissy Squat.

[MisterMagoo]

i don't think that 675 for 10 half reps is out of the question for a man as big as Luke to be honest but i also agree with doison about 700 being ungodly heavy without equipment, i took 700 out of the rack one time just to stand with it and my nose bled and it felt like i was going to loose my teeth.

oh i absolutely agree with everything in here. now, 675x10 for ass to grass reps? total and utter bs. simply not happening. but the kind of squats you see bodybuilders use? certainly. hell, i could even believe he got it coming in the general area of parallel (but still VERY high, think ronnie).

as for holding 700, yeah. most i've had was 600, and it gave me a serious respect for the guys who stand under over 1000 pounds, gear or no.

[doison]

sigh, time for another of my patented magoo lists.

1) i never said luke could do it without breaking a sweat. that was milos's term, i never agreed with it.

2) why mock me at all? why is it you insist on personal potshots? i argued with you and you VERY quickly started mocking me.

3) when did i say i was a powerlifting legend? did i at ANY point say i was anything special? have i ever claimed i know all about powerlifting?

4) you said 'very few' of those 'very strong men' you know can do 675 for ten. you didn't say "none", which means some of them can. how many of them have a 1,300 pound geared squat? i'm just curious, since that WAS your claim.

you're just mad because i called you on something ridiculous, and now you're stuck with backpedaling and personal attacks. calm down, kid. 

HAHAHA....you bring out the term "kid," the oldest and most official sign that you're grasping at straws. 

You're backpeddling faster than an AFC cornerback, so don't say for a second that I'm backpeddaling.

You should be ashamed of yourself for scoffing at 675 for 10 on squats as if any middle of the pack bodybuilder could do it.  I'm not new to this game, you are.  I play a fun game here at getbig, but I've been around the block. 

Do you train at a powerlifting gym?  Go up to one of the 308's or supers, and tell them that you think some middle of the pack bodybuilder could do 675 for 10 "bodybuilder" reps, see how they feel about that.  Make sure you tell them that you don't agree with the "without breaking a sweat" comment though...

[MisterMagoo]

doison, i'll finish with this. this is a video. specifically, a video of a 19 year old football player, squatting what appears to be 605 pounds for 9 reps (though he needs help on the 9th).

he is not a powerlifter, he is 260 pounds, he is 19 years old, he is not wearing knee wraps. are you honestly telling me is a world record shattering feat for someone to the same thing with another 70 pounds for someone far bigger, older, who trains weightlifting exclusively, AND wearing wraps?

[doison]

doison, i'll finish with this. this is a video. specifically, a video of a 19 year old football player, squatting what appears to be 605 pounds for 9 reps (though he needs help on the 9th).

he is not a powerlifter, he is 260 pounds, he is 19 years old, he is not wearing knee wraps. are you honestly telling me is a world record shattering feat for someone to the same thing with another 70 pounds for someone far bigger, older, who trains weightlifting exclusively, AND wearing wraps?

those aren't parallel

[tu_holmes]

would love to try squatting with such a bar..looks useful.

I love that bar... I want one.

[MisterMagoo]

those aren't parallel

and i never said luke's squat was to parallel. 

[davidpaul]

those aren't parallel

those are top ass to grass, fcukign impressive.

[MisterMagoo]

those are top ass to grass, fcukign impressive.

it's hard to tell exactly where, but you're right it's definitely deep. and for a 19 year old football player just in a belt? that's insanity. but i'm sure if i told doison about it without a video he'd tell me he was on the phone with ed coan and brent mikesell and they said it was impossible.