adonis and calories

[delta9mda]

yo bro, you say a calorie is a calorie but in vince g's diet you say too much protien. if a cal is a cal what does it matter. edumacate me to adonis ideas.

[The True Adonis]

yo bro, you say a calorie is a calorie but in vince g's diet you say too much protien. if a cal is a cal what does it matter. edumacate me to adonis ideas.

Calories are calories when it comes to energy values.

Vince Goodrum was eating too many calories.  Cutting Protein would be needed as excess Protein is just a waste.

Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet.

[delta9mda]

but what if he cut the carbs and fat and relied on protien as his fuel/ building source as it is harder for the body to process protien therefore burning more cals in digestion?

[The True Adonis]

but what if he cut the carbs and fat and relied on protien as his fuel/ building source as it is harder for the body to process protien therefore burning more cals in digestion?

He would not only feel miserable, he would perform miserably.  The only thing that fuels the brain and muscles are Carbohydrates.

This form of unnessecary self-torture will also lower leptin to an insatiable degree. 

[The True Adonis]

but what if he cut the carbs and fat and relied on protien as his fuel/ building source as it is harder for the body to process protien therefore burning more cals in digestion?

The thermogenic effect of Protein Digestion is VERY MINIMAL!

50-100 calories perhaps at best.

You could achieve the same effect by just typing on getbig for an hour, having a simple conversation with your girlfriend or wife for 45 minutes or even easier, eating 50-100 calories less.

[The True Adonis]

Protein "Thermogenesis" Myth

"Thermogenesis" or something that has a "thermogenic" effect on the body refers to anything that causes the temperature inside your body (sometimes your temperature on the skin is different from the temperature inside, your core temperature) to rise, to increase. Well, we all know from school that the average / normal core body temperature is 98.6 degrees. However, when your core temperature increases, even by just 1 or 2 degrees, it is said that this higher temperature causes the body to turn into a "furnace", raising the metabolism, which results in fat being burned.

Well, what does this have to do with building muscle mass and gaining weight? Well, one of the many reasons everyone and their mother seems to recommend eating a high protein diet is because of this "thermogenic" effect. People are under the misconception that you can gain a lot of muscle weight without gaining fat if you eat a high protein diet.

This is because protein DOES have a thermogenic effect on the body...........but not enough to make an impact! Here's where everyone is missing the point. Sure, protein causes the body to work harder to digest it, which causes the body's internal temperature to rise, but it is NOT enough to really make a dent in burning fat or preserving muscle mass.

Researchers at Arizona State University examined individuals that ate a high protein diet and compared them to another group that ate a high carb diet. What they found was that eating a high protein diet resulted in an average of 30 calories per meal being burned in digestion.

Read that again.......30 calories per meal. Whoop-tee, doo!!! 30 calories! Okay, then let's say you eat 5 meals a day. 30 calories per meal, 5 meals a day, that equals 150 calories. So, you would only be burning an extra 150 calories a day if you were to go on a high protein diet. Big deal!!!! 150 calories is 1 cup of milk. It's 2 eggs. It's half a candy bar. 150 calories isn't going to make any difference whatsoever in helping you gain weight, build muscle mass, or burn fat.

Everyone keeps saying, "Oh, but you can eat more protein and not gain any fat because of the thermogenic effect". Give me a break........150 calories.....I rather just cut out 1 can of soda a day and get the same effect!

Don't be fooled by the "high-protein" fans. They just want you to go out and spend your hard-earned money on their bucket of protein. If you are looking to gain weight and build muscle, concentrate on the overall calories.















CALORIES BURNED BY TALKING:Sitting while talking
Including talking on the phone  46 an hour.

hahahahahah

[YoungBlood]

Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet.

How so? Adequate protein intake? What the hell is that? Don't you want to optimize everything? Not just one macro-nutrient?
And by the way, why are carbs so important, yet they aren't ESSENTIAL?!?!?! Answer me than prick.

[The True Adonis]

How so? Adequate protein intake? What the hell is that? Don't you want to optimize everything? Not just one macro-nutrient?
And by the way, why are carbs so important, yet they aren't ESSENTIAL?!?!?! Answer me than prick.

USRDA is adequate.

[delta9mda]

USRDA is adequate.

im going to have to say no to that.

[YoungBlood]

USRDA is adequate.

And why are carbohydrates not essential?
Adequate and optimal are two different things. Then again, maybe that's why you're a 160lb elf with photoshop capabilities.

[onlyme]

Protein "Thermogenesis" Myth

"Thermogenesis" or something that has a "thermogenic" effect on the body refers to anything that causes the temperature inside your body (sometimes your temperature on the skin is different from the temperature inside, your core temperature) to rise, to increase. Well, we all know from school that the average / normal core body temperature is 98.6 degrees. However, when your core temperature increases, even by just 1 or 2 degrees, it is said that this higher temperature causes the body to turn into a "furnace", raising the metabolism, which results in fat being burned.

Well, what does this have to do with building muscle mass and gaining weight? Well, one of the many reasons everyone and their mother seems to recommend eating a high protein diet is because of this "thermogenic" effect. People are under the misconception that you can gain a lot of muscle weight without gaining fat if you eat a high protein diet.

This is because protein DOES have a thermogenic effect on the body...........but not enough to make an impact! Here's where everyone is missing the point. Sure, protein causes the body to work harder to digest it, which causes the body's internal temperature to rise, but it is NOT enough to really make a dent in burning fat or preserving muscle mass.

Researchers at Arizona State University examined individuals that ate a high protein diet and compared them to another group that ate a high carb diet. What they found was that eating a high protein diet resulted in an average of 30 calories per meal being burned in digestion.

Read that again.......30 calories per meal. Whoop-tee, doo!!! 30 calories! Okay, then let's say you eat 5 meals a day. 30 calories per meal, 5 meals a day, that equals 150 calories. So, you would only be burning an extra 150 calories a day if you were to go on a high protein diet. Big deal!!!! 150 calories is 1 cup of milk. It's 2 eggs. It's half a candy bar. 150 calories isn't going to make any difference whatsoever in helping you gain weight, build muscle mass, or burn fat.

Everyone keeps saying, "Oh, but you can eat more protein and not gain any fat because of the thermogenic effect". Give me a break........150 calories.....I rather just cut out 1 can of soda a day and get the same effect!

Don't be fooled by the "high-protein" fans. They just want you to go out and spend your hard-earned money on their bucket of protein. If you are looking to gain weight and build muscle, concentrate on the overall calories.















CALORIES BURNED BY TALKING:Sitting while talking
Including talking on the phone  46 an hour.

hahahahahah

God another cut & paste.

[Tombo]

All you need is some common sense for this level of nutrition, not a fucking degree or a four day bitch course to become a 'Nutritionist'.

the body is a 'furnace' and the food is 'fuel' all you have to know is the foods properties which you are putting into your mouth and the optimum times at which to consume that, or when not to.

[Coach]

God another cut & paste.

http://muscle-weight-gain.blogspot.com/2005_01_27_muscle-weight-gain_archive.html

[YoungBlood]

And why are carbohydrates not essential?
Adequate and optimal are two different things. Then again, maybe that's why you're a 160lb elf with photoshop capabilities.

Answer me Adonis. Why are carbohydrates not essential?

[nycbull]

Adonis,

where can I find an accurate chart that lists what foods have how much calories and how many calories are burned by different daily activities???

[MisterMagoo]

adonis, why are you too much of a vagina to answer your own challenge? 

[onlyme]

Answer me Adonis. Why are carbohydrates not essential?

If you notice Apenis will answer questions about stuff he doesn't know by going on the internet finding the answer then cut & pasting the answer.  When he post one or two lines of text to a questions that is his real answer.  But most of the time it is just a bunch of bullshit he posts.  He pretends to know things he doesn't and gets caught cut & pasting the answer.  It's sad to be so stupid as he is and trying so hard to be smart.  He must get headaches all the time.  But he has that dyke Heckler to soothe his pain.

[Necrosis]

he doesnt understand that fat, then carbs are stored more easily as fat then protein. the reason being the biochemistry of it. fat basically only needs lipases. carbs enter the tca cycle. but proteins are needed for all enzymatic activities and building of the body. and are the last to be stored. they are harder to store.


he is an idiot. that knows nothing.

[Tombo]

If you notice Apenis will answer questions about stuff he doesn't know by going on the internet finding the answer then cut & pasting the answer.  When he post one or two lines of text to a questions that is his real answer.  But most of the time it is just a bunch of bullshit he posts.  He pretends to know things he doesn't and gets caught cut & pasting the answer.  It's sad to be so stupid as he is and trying so hard to be smart.  He must get headaches all the time.  But he has that dyke Heckler to soothe his pain.

its SO fucking true.

[chainsaw]

Calories are calories when it comes to energy values.

Vince Goodrum was eating too many calories.  Cutting Protein would be needed as excess Protein is just a waste.

Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet.

ROFLMAF, I guess an amino acid is an amino acid

[chainsaw]

Try to build a house with no nails, see how long it stands.

Ever heard of Scurvy or Anemia?

These are diseases of not having enough vitamins.

By the way, a calorie is only a measue of energy, and it isn't cal it is kcal. 

It is a measure of energy BEFORE food is digested.  Different foods require more energy to digest.  Protein being one of the more difficult i.e red meat. 

You're body might burn 10 calories digesting a steak with 100 kcal, and only 2 calories digesting a 100kcal orange.  So in theory before digestion, you are correct, however the end result is not.

[--phoenix--]

TA seems to have a point with the calories are calories thing

[SteelePegasus]

http://muscle-weight-gain.blogspot.com/2005_01_27_muscle-weight-gain_archive.html

and he never gives credit but pretends that they are his words

[SteelePegasus]

TA seems to have a point with the calories are calories thing

air is air
sky is sky
brick is a brick
car is a car

want me to enlighten you on other "new and inventive" things

[natural al]

Try to build a house with no nails, see how long it stands.

Ever heard of Scurvy or Anemia?

These are diseases of not having enough vitamins.

By the way, a calorie is only a measue of energy, and it isn't cal it is kcal. 

It is a measure of energy BEFORE food is digested.  Different foods require more energy to digest.  Protein being one of the more difficult i.e red meat. 
You're body might burn 10 calories digesting a steak with 100 kcal, and only 2 calories digesting a 100kcal orange.  So in theory before digestion, you are correct, however the end result is not.

I'll say this:  I was in the hospital for a digestive issue over the summer.  i was told that I was not to eat Red Meat for awhile cause it is so much harder to digest and your digestive system has to work very hard.  How can this not equate to the burning of calories during the digetive process?