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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2007, 09:30:57 AM »
83, 8 oz. chicken breast is the same as a gallon of gasoline.


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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2007, 09:31:50 AM »
Carbohydrates are the only thing that fuels the brain if you want to live optimally.

Be my guest. Starve yourself of Carbohydrates.  I don`t really care what you do.



So now you throw in a THIRD opinion?!?!
You're saying it's not about carbohydrates being the ONLY source of fuel for the brain. It's not about the brain having another choice of fuel (ketones). But now it's about how the brain will function on an optimal level?
Snappy comeback for sure. However, I myself have starved of carbohydrates to see what would happen. All in all, I feel that I function better on a much lower carbohydrate diet.
However, you're not getting the issue. In this case, it's not about how people function on what diet they use. It's about YOU contradicting yourself endlessly because you can't even realize the crap that spews out of your mouth from one moment to the next.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2007, 09:31:56 AM »
What is a Calorie?
A calorie is a unit of energy. We tend to associate calories with food, but they apply to anything containing energy. For example, a gallon (about 4 liters) of gasoline contains about 31,000,000 calories.
Specifically, a calorie is the amount of energy, or heat, it takes to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit). One calorie is equal to 4.184 joules, a common unit of energy used in the physical sciences.

Most of us think of calories in relation to food, as in "This can of soda has 200 calories." It turns out that the calories on a food package are actually kilocalories (1,000 calories = 1 kilocalorie). The word is sometimes capitalized to show the difference, but usually not. A food calorie contains 4,184 joules. A can of soda containing 200 food calories contains 200,000 regular calories, or 200 kilocalories. A gallon of gasoline contains 31,000 kilocalories.

The same applies to exercise -- when a fitness chart says you burn about 100 calories for every mile you jog, it means 100 kilocalories. For the duration of this article, when we say "calorie," we mean "kilocalorie."

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2007, 09:33:22 AM »
What Calories Do
Human beings need energy to survive -- to breathe, move, pump blood -- and they acquire this energy from food.
Caloric Breakdown


1 g Carbohydrates: 4 calories
1 g Protein: 4 calories
1 g Fat: 9 calories
 
The number of calories in a food is a measure of how much potential energy that food possesses. A gram of carbohydrates has 4 calories, a gram of protein has 4 calories, and a gram of fat has 9 calories. Foods are a compilation of these three building blocks. So if you know how many carbohydrates, fats and proteins are in any given food, you know how many calories, or how much energy, that food contains.

If we look at the nutritional label on the back of a packet of maple-and-brown-sugar oatmeal, we find that it has 160 calories. This means that if we were to pour this oatmeal into a dish, set the oatmeal on fire and get it to burn completely (which is actually pretty tricky), the reaction would produce 160 kilocalories (remember: food calories are kilocalories) -- enough energy to raise the temperature of 160 kilograms of water 1 degree Celsius. If we look closer at the nutritional label, we see that our oatmeal has 2 grams of fat, 4 grams of protein and 32 grams of carbohydrates, producing a total of 162 calories (apparently, food manufacturers like to round down). Of these 162 calories, 18 come from fat (9 cal x 2 g), 16 come from protein (4 cal x 4 g) and 128 come from carbohydrates (4 cal x 32 g).

Our bodies "burn" the calories in the oatmeal through metabolic processes, by which enzymes break the carbohydrates into glucose and other sugars, the fats into glycerol and fatty acids and the proteins into amino acids (see How Food Works for details). These molecules are then transported through the bloodstream to the cells, where they are either absorbed for immediate use or sent on to the final stage of metabolism in which they are reacted with oxygen to release their stored energy.


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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2007, 09:34:54 AM »
A calorie is NOT a calorie...it's not even a debate.

It's like saying a pound is a pound.....of what?

Under Adonis' thinking, a pound of feathers is the same as a pound of cement.



Chick- In Adonis' defense, a pound IS a pound (using your theory above). 

A pound of something will always equal a pound of something else. However, it's the VOLUME of something that differs.
Ever open a box of cereal, and the label says it will be X amount of weight, yet when you look inside the box it's half empty. Due to settling the volume of the item is different, but the weight is still the same.
So, a pound of feathers is the same as a pound to cement. But you would need 10 billion feathers to equal that tiny slab of cement.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2007, 09:35:11 AM »
So now you throw in a THIRD opinion?!?!
You're saying it's not about carbohydrates being the ONLY source of fuel for the brain. It's not about the brain having another choice of fuel (ketones). But now it's about how the brain will function on an optimal level?
Snappy comeback for sure. However, I myself have starved of carbohydrates to see what would happen. All in all, I feel that I function better on a much lower carbohydrate diet.
However, you're not getting the issue. In this case, it's not about how people function on what diet they use. It's about YOU contradicting yourself endlessly because you can't even realize the crap that spews out of your mouth from one moment to the next.

Unlike you most people strive for optimal brain function.  You are clearly satisfied with low performance.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2007, 09:35:34 AM »
He would not only feel miserable, he would perform miserably.  The only thing that fuels the brain and muscles are Carbohydrates.

This form of unnessecary self-torture will also lower leptin to an insatiable degree. 


You can not eat carbs and eat fat and that fuels the body also.    A great trick in eating right is at a meal when you eat carbs, keep the fat low.  When you eat fat in a meal, keep the carbs low.    and not every diet is sufficient in protein for bodybuilding, your whacked.  
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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2007, 09:35:34 AM »
Lots of people wonder if it matters where their calories come from. At its most basic, if we eat exactly the number of calories that we burn and if we're only talking about weight, the answer is no -- a calorie is a calorie. A protein calorie is no different from a fat calorie -- they are simply units of energy. As long as you burn what you eat, you will maintain your weight; and as long as you burn more than you eat, you'll lose weight.


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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2007, 09:36:01 AM »
A calorie is a calorie.

I have a Question for you.

How many Chicken breasts would equal a gallon of Gasoline?

who gives a fuck?

Go eat a lb. of chicken and then a lb. of gasoline....let me know what the results are.

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Re: adonis and calories
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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #110 on: February 22, 2007, 09:38:19 AM »
who gives a fuck?

Go eat a lb. of chicken and then a lb. of gasoline....let me know what the results are.

you are what you eat and most of us want to be diesel, so that is good advice bob.  

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #111 on: February 22, 2007, 09:38:49 AM »
Chick- In Adonis' defense, a pound IS a pound (using your theory above). 

A pound of something will always equal a pound of something else. However, it's the VOLUME of something that differs.
Ever open a box of cereal, and the label says it will be X amount of weight, yet when you look inside the box it's half empty. Due to settling the volume of the item is different, but the weight is still the same.
So, a pound of feathers is the same as a pound to cement. But you would need 10 billion feathers to equal that tiny slab of cement.

I'm not disputing that a pound is a pound....my point is that they both may weigh the same, but are two very different things....and they are two very different things to the body.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2007, 09:40:05 AM »
Your Body's Efficiency
Have you ever wondered why, for so many people (and especially for anyone older than 30 years old), weight gain seems to be a fact of life? It's because the human body is way too efficient! It just does not take that much energy to maintain the human body at rest; and when exercising, the human body is amazingly frugal when it comes to turning food into motion.
At rest (for example, while sitting and watching television), the human body burns only about 12 calories per pound of body weight per day (26 calories per kilogram). That means that if you weigh 150 pounds (68 kg), your body uses only about:


150 X 12 = 1,800 calories per day
Twelve calories per pound per day is a rough estimate -- see How Calories Work for details.

Those 1,800 calories are used to do everything you need to stay alive:

They keep your heart beating and lungs breathing.
They keep your internal organs operating properly.
They keep your brain running.
They keep your body warm.
In motion, the human body also uses energy very efficiently. For example, a person running a marathon (26 miles or 42 km) burns only about 2,600 calories. In other words, you burn only about 100 calories per mile (about 62 calories per km) when you are running.
You can see just how efficient the human body is if you compare your body to a car. A typical car in the United States gets between 15 and 30 miles per gallon of gasoline (6 to 12 km/L). A gallon of gas contains about 31,000 calories. That means that if a human being could drink gasoline instead of eating hamburgers to take in calories, a human being could run 26 miles on about one-twelfth of a gallon of gas (0.3 L). In other words, a human being gets more than 300 miles per gallon (120 km/L)! If you put a human being on a bicycle to increase the efficiency, a human being can get well over 1,000 miles per gallon (more than 500 km/L)!

That level of efficiency is the main reason why it is so easy to gain weight

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #113 on: February 22, 2007, 09:40:19 AM »
Lots of people wonder if it matters where their calories come from. At its most basic, if we eat exactly the number of calories that we burn and if we're only talking about weight, the answer is no -- a calorie is a calorie. A protein calorie is no different from a fat calorie -- they are simply units of energy. As long as you burn what you eat, you will maintain your weight; and as long as you burn more than you eat, you'll lose weight.


And you got your degree in Nutrition Sciences from.....?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #114 on: February 22, 2007, 09:42:29 AM »


Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet.


Thats a lie.

Dr Michael Colgan showed the results of study after study in "optimum sports nutrition" that completely flies in the face of this statement

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #115 on: February 22, 2007, 09:42:52 AM »
Unlike you most people strive for optimal brain function.  You are clearly satisfied with low performance.

Maybe you should stick to something you do decently....post about Billy Smith and the infamous Flex Wheeler Body Fat Composition at Golds. But I'll just report you to a Moderator like I did last time, since you're doing what you're doing now- flooding the board with useless bantering.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #116 on: February 22, 2007, 09:43:00 AM »

And you got your degree in Nutrition Sciences from.....?

Would you really trust anyone who gets a degree in "Nutrition Sciences."  That sounds like it's about one step up from a degree in cable repair.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #117 on: February 22, 2007, 09:44:14 AM »
I'm not disputing that a pound is a pound....my point is that they both may weigh the same, but are two very different things....and they are two very different things to the body.

I agree with you Chick, but by your first post (the one I quoted) I wasn't sure where you were coming from.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #118 on: February 22, 2007, 09:44:30 AM »
Thats a lie.

Dr Michael Colgan showed the results of study after study in "optimum sports nutrition" that completely flies in the face of this statement

Which peer reviewed journal would one find this persons studies and articles?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #119 on: February 22, 2007, 09:44:41 AM »
The neurotransmitters in your brain are made of PROTEIN.

Without those....you would be pyschotic....regardless of your carb levels

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #120 on: February 22, 2007, 09:44:58 AM »
Maybe you should stick to something you do decently....post about Billy Smith and the infamous Flex Wheeler Body Fat Composition at Golds. But I'll just report you to a Moderator like I did last time, since you're doing what you're doing now- flooding the board with useless bantering.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #121 on: February 22, 2007, 09:46:05 AM »
I agree with you Chick, but by your first post (the one I quoted) I wasn't sure where you were coming from.

Im coming from the same place you are...Adonis is nuts.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #122 on: February 22, 2007, 09:47:25 AM »
Im coming from the same place you are...Adonis is nuts.
You just aren`t that bright.

It quite allright to be a simpleton.  I`m used to dealing with them on a daily basis.  Almost everyone I meet is a simpleton.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #123 on: February 22, 2007, 09:48:56 AM »
You just aren`t that bright.

It quite allright to be a simpleton.  I`m used to dealing with them on a daily basis.  Almost everyone I meet is a simpleton.

That's the law of averages for you

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #124 on: February 22, 2007, 09:49:46 AM »
who gives a fuck?

Go eat a lb. of chicken and then a lb. of gasoline....let me know what the results are.

Still waiting for your response Mr. cutty/pastey...