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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #225 on: February 22, 2007, 04:08:48 PM »
THAT IS THE POINT

TA does not eat the same 3 or 4 foods 5 times a day everyday.  He eats what he wants he wants it.

Why don't you give it a try we are living in a time where we have access to the broadest array of food ever availible to anyone.  Surely chicken breast and brown rice isn't the be all and end all.

are you truly that ignorant, what is your answer to the massive meteoric rise in all disease in populations with diets high in sat fat and toxin laden food.


there is a reason why america is one of the unhealthiest nations in the world and places like mcdonalds perpetuate it. fast eating is not the way, fruits, veggies, grains, and lean meat sources perferably all organic is the optimal diet. variety is key but what adonis is claiming is horrible, and dead wrong and has been proven so many many times.

he doesnt even know that einstein beleived in a higher power ahahaha.

darwin did to at the out set, but was a secualr humanist later in life.

abiogenesis is still up for grabs, adonis how did life originate?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #226 on: February 22, 2007, 04:12:45 PM »
are you truly that ignorant, what is your answer to the massive meteoric rise in all disease in populations with diets high in sat fat and toxin laden food.


there is a reason why america is one of the unhealthiest nations in the world and places like mcdonalds perpetuate it. fast eating is not the way, fruits, veggies, grains, and lean meat sources perferably all organic is the optimal diet. variety is key but what adonis is claiming is horrible, and dead wrong and has been proven so many many times.

he doesnt even know that einstein beleived in a higher power ahahaha.

darwin did to at the out set, but was a secualr humanist later in life.

abiogenesis is still up for grabs, adonis how did life originate?

Full of lies you are.


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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #227 on: February 22, 2007, 04:13:08 PM »

Stuffed Bread Recipe



A fancy name for a sandwich :P

Sounds nice actually.

One point, bodybuilders are morons if they diet on just plain chicken and rice. Even marinating a chicken breast in something as simple honey and soya sauce would give variation and make the food more appealing.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #228 on: February 22, 2007, 04:14:42 PM »
A fancy name for a sandwich :P

Sounds nice actually.

One point, bodybuilders are morons if they diet on just plain chicken and rice. Even marinating a chicken breast in something as simple honey and soya sauce would give variation and make the food more appealing.
Iv`e read where some won`t even chew gum or use Cinnamon or even Splenda out of some strange fear.

Its amusing.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #229 on: February 22, 2007, 04:16:46 PM »
Full of lies you are.



hahahahahahah, i actual am starting not to mind you. your tactic is funny, and all your doing is getting people to follow along and create a buzzz which is working.

i dont understand why your doing it though. can you actual make money off your internet persona?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #230 on: February 22, 2007, 04:17:25 PM »

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #231 on: February 22, 2007, 04:30:37 PM »


dude for one, i dont care what einstein really thought of god, philosophers are the people to listen to not a physicist. two, he beleived in a deity, this is common knowledge, if you read some of his writings on spiritual matters you will see he sides with spinoza.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #232 on: February 22, 2007, 04:45:41 PM »
dude for one, i dont care what einstein really thought of god, philosophers are the people to listen to not a physicist. two, he beleived in a deity, this is common knowledge, if you read some of his writings on spiritual matters you will see he sides with spinoza.
Again, you are lying.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #233 on: February 22, 2007, 04:55:04 PM »
I sort of agree with Adonis here, I think what he is trying to say is:  For OPTIMUM performance of your muscles ala bodybuiliding and for optimum brain function the body uses carbohydrates as its preffered source of fuel.  SO carbs are really more important for those 2 functions.  A natural trainee will not benefit from extra protein of more than 1 - 1.5g/lb of lean tissue depending on the persons ability to digest protein efficiently.  So he is sort of right, get you protein daily and dont overdo it, then manipulate your carbs so that you are either in deficit to lose weight or in surplus in order to gain weight, hopefully muscle tissue if the stimulus is there and rest and recovery is adequate.  Carbs are def. required for maximising your performance in the gym, how many and what sort of carbs you have are the best variables.  Conauming excess protein will only work when you are on the gear as you are able to process and digest and utilise protein much more efficiently.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #234 on: February 22, 2007, 05:05:58 PM »
dude for one, i dont care what einstein really thought of god, philosophers are the people to listen to not a physicist. two, he beleived in a deity, this is common knowledge, if you read some of his writings on spiritual matters you will see he sides with spinoza.

he said, explicitly, that he didn't believe in a personal god. the "god" or "deity" he believed in was the manner in which the universe functioned. his god was the god of physical reality, not anything resembling the theistic god.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #235 on: February 23, 2007, 03:22:51 AM »
i think you need to do some reading my friend einstein was a deist in line with spinoza the philosopher. he did not beleive in a personal god.
Read the god delusion by Richard Dawkins. He explictly states Einstein was not a deist. Unless of couse, you are more learned and intelligent than him ::)
I know he did not believe in a personal god, hence the many quotes from einstein i've already posted.

Oh, by the way; Spinoza was pantheist. Hope this helps.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #236 on: February 23, 2007, 03:26:42 AM »
There is a religion board.


HOPE THIS HELPS.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #237 on: February 23, 2007, 06:51:30 AM »
So, let's get this back on track...

Adonis, you've stated that a calorie is a calorie and as such, macro nutrient configuration makes no difference on muscle gain/fat loss.  If this is true, and we use your gasoline/hamburger analogy, how well do you think your car would run on hamburgers?  Not too well I'm guessing.  Just like your car can't run on hamburgers, the human body cannot optimally build muscle or lose fat on ice cream, Krispy Creams and McDonalds.

Hope that helps...
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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #238 on: February 23, 2007, 09:27:44 AM »
the human body cannot optimally build muscle or lose fat on ice cream, Krispy Creams and McDonalds.

Maybe that explains why Adonis is a whopping 160 stud?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #239 on: February 23, 2007, 10:01:20 AM »
So, let's get this back on track...

Adonis, you've stated that a calorie is a calorie and as such, macro nutrient configuration makes no difference on muscle gain/fat loss.  If this is true, and we use your gasoline/hamburger analogy, how well do you think your car would run on hamburgers?  Not too well I'm guessing.  Just like your car can't run on hamburgers, the human body cannot optimally build muscle or lose fat on ice cream, Krispy Creams and McDonalds.

Hope that helps...
Of course it can.
The amount of Protein needed is minimal.  You can get adequate Protien, Carbs and Fat through Ice Cream, Krispy Kreme and Mcdonalds and not go over a calorie limit. Understand that is not all I eat.  What is it with you people and your "All or Nothing" Mentality?   

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #240 on: February 23, 2007, 10:12:24 AM »
Of course it can.
The amount of Protein needed is minimal.  You can get adequate Protien, Carbs and Fat through Ice Cream, Krispy Kreme and Mcdonalds and not go over a calorie limit. Understand that is not all I eat.  What is it with you people and your "All or Nothing" Mentality?   

How do you define adequate?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #241 on: February 23, 2007, 10:14:13 AM »
How do you define adequate?

USRDA and above.

Its hard NOT to get adequate and optimal Nutrition.

You would have to go out of your way to do so.  The main problem is getting too much, which leads to obesity which is the WORST problem when it comes to nutrition.


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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #242 on: February 23, 2007, 10:18:10 AM »
USRDA and above.

Its hard NOT to get adequate and optimal Nutrition.

You would have to go out of your way to do so.  The main problem is getting too much, which leads to obesity which is the WORST problem when it comes to nutrition.



The USRDA is adequate or optimal ?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #243 on: February 23, 2007, 10:20:51 AM »
USRDA and above.

The main problem is getting too much, which leads to obesity


Awesome gibberish.:)

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #244 on: February 23, 2007, 10:23:21 AM »
The USRDA is adequate or optimal ?

Can be both. The most important thing is to meet the USRDA but do not overly exceed, which most people fail miserably at doing so.

Most on this site are obese even.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #245 on: February 23, 2007, 10:24:32 AM »
A doctor's definition of obese is laughable.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #246 on: February 23, 2007, 10:27:16 AM »
Can be both. The most important thing is to meet the USRDA but do not overly exceed, which most people fail miserably at doing so.

Most on this site are obese even.

Yes, just like you claiming to be 45-50% bodyfat before your Getbig diet.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #247 on: February 23, 2007, 10:28:20 AM »
A doctor's definition of obese is laughable.
Oh thats funny,

Since I am willing to bet that, if you posted a picture, you would be considered obese.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #248 on: February 23, 2007, 10:30:36 AM »
Can be both. The most important thing is to meet the USRDA but do not overly exceed, which most people fail miserably at doing so.

Most on this site are obese even.

Under what circumstances?

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #249 on: February 23, 2007, 10:31:12 AM »
Oh thats funny,

Since I am willing to bet that, if you posted a picture, you would be considered obese.


Hahahaha, depends on who commented.