adonis and calories

[The True Adonis]

Under what circumstances?

The USRDA is a guideline.

Obviously if you are a marathon runner, you would need more calories from Carbs and Fat.

Bodybuilders, however,  do not need anything special in their diet or in any excess as it does not demand so. 

[Necrosis]

Read the god delusion by Richard Dawkins. He explictly states Einstein was not a deist. Unless of couse, you are more learned and intelligent than him
I know he did not believe in a personal god, hence the many quotes from einstein i've already posted.

Oh, by the way; Spinoza was pantheist. Hope this helps.

you dont have a clue what your talking about. for one dawkins is a moron in philosophy, sorry he is a zoologist if im not mistaken, how does that make him a expert on religious. please post some of his amazing arguments against god, they are poor and weak at best. i could debate dawkins easily, he is smarter then me no doubt, but does he know more about philosophy and this particular argument, i would bet agaisnt it. his book is underwhelming, and he sets up strawmen, please enlighten me as to his arguments against a creator, not religion, on that i agree.

a pantheist is a monist hope this helps. that the universe is god, this is the oneness, the universe is god and not seperate(unlike theism) you dont know what your talking about

here is pantheism
Pantheism is a metaphysical and religious position. Broadly defined it is the view that (1) "God is everything and everything is God … the world is either identical with God or in some way a self-expression of his nature" (Owen 1971: 74). Similarly, it is the view that (2) everything that exists constitutes a "unity" and this all-inclusive unity is in some sense divine (MacIntyre 1967: 34). A slightly more specific definition is given by Owen (1971: 65) who says (3) "‘Pantheism’ … signifies the belief that every existing entity is, only one Being; and that all other forms of reality are either modes (or appearances) of it or identical with it." Even with these definitions there is dispute as to just how pantheism is to be understood and who is and is not a pantheist.

pantheism is a form of monism, a detity still exists, i havent said einstein was a theist, he was a deist and beleived in divinity. please post your quotes agian so i can post counter quotes, were he refers to god, and makes many religious statements.

also, you would do better to read einsteins actual writings then someones interpretation of him, this is causing your confusion.

here you go, buy it read it, by someone with no agenda. and someone smarter then dawkins by a mile

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1570627681/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6135251-8522254?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155

from einstein in IDEAS AND OPINIONS

"my belief is a cross between pythagoras and spinoza; there is a central order to the cosmos, an order that can be directly apprehended by the soul in mystical union".

please stop reading books written by atheists or theists on what einstein said, why dont you read what einstein ACTUALLY wrote ahaha.

also stop the ignorance, he was a deity beleiving man with many mystical writings, you just havent read them. pantheism is deitism, nautre, is god and so on, divinity is deism.

[Condor]

Yes, just like you claiming to be 45-50% bodyfat before your Getbig diet.

No response to this?

[Necrosis]

he said, explicitly, that he didn't believe in a personal god. the "god" or "deity" he believed in was the manner in which the universe functioned. his god was the god of physical reality, not anything resembling the theistic god.

somewhat right, nature was god, however if you read something of his you would know that he beleived in a deity that wound up the universe and let us be, a organizing intelligence. a personal god only means a god who cares for us, who is seperate and loving with commuication with the creation. this is not einsteins god, nor mine.


please stop misinterpreting my posts, einstein was not religious. also, he is not that well read on religious matters, or philosophy. and is of no real importance to me in any discussion about god. why would he be, being an expert in one area does not make you an expert in others, like dawkins nuthuggers like to think haha.

it just shows that cosmic intelligence is not a dumb mans faith.

there are other atheist books out there, dawkins should be that last one you read, his arguments are very weak and easily dismissed.

[The True Adonis]

you dont have a clue what your talking about. for one dawkins is a moron in philosophy, sorry he is a zoologist if im not mistaken, how does that make him a expert on religious. please post some of his amazing arguments against god, they are poor and weak at best. i could debate dawkins easily, he is smarter then me no doubt, but does he know more about philosophy and this particular argument, i would bet agaisnt it. his book is underwhelming, and he sets up strawmen, please enlighten me as to his arguments against a creator, not religion, on that i agree.

a pantheist is a monist hope this helps. that the universe is god, this is the oneness, the universe is god and not seperate(unlike theism) you dont know what your talking about

here is pantheism
Pantheism is a metaphysical and religious position. Broadly defined it is the view that (1) "God is everything and everything is God … the world is either identical with God or in some way a self-expression of his nature" (Owen 1971: 74). Similarly, it is the view that (2) everything that exists constitutes a "unity" and this all-inclusive unity is in some sense divine (MacIntyre 1967: 34). A slightly more specific definition is given by Owen (1971: 65) who says (3) "‘Pantheism’ … signifies the belief that every existing entity is, only one Being; and that all other forms of reality are either modes (or appearances) of it or identical with it." Even with these definitions there is dispute as to just how pantheism is to be understood and who is and is not a pantheist.

pantheism is a form of monism, a detity still exists, i havent said einstein was a theist, he was a deist and beleived in divinity. please post your quotes agian so i can post counter quotes, were he refers to god, and makes many religious statements.

also, you would do better to read einsteins actual writings then someones interpretation of him, this is causing your confusion.

here you go, buy it read it, by someone with no agenda. and someone smarter then dawkins by a mile

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1570627681/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6135251-8522254?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155

from einstein in IDEAS AND OPINIONS

"my belief is a cross between pythagoras and spinoza; there is a central order to the cosmos, an order that can be directly apprehended by the soul in mystical union".

please stop reading books written by atheists or theists on what einstein said, why dont you read what einstein ACTUALLY wrote ahaha.

also stop the ignorance, he was a deity beleiving man with many mystical writings, you just havent read them. pantheism is deitism, nautre, is god and so on, divinity is deism.

ROFLMAO.

    You clearly defined your ignorance.

[MisterMagoo]

the point is that you're stretching "god" out so far it's meaningless. you're just defining "god" as whatever you want, and in this case it's the abstract concept of physical laws or an event, not an actual being.

hell, a friend of mine defines "god" as the force that created the big bang, so would you say he believes in a god? no, he just uses the word god as a label to something.

and who said anything about being well read in anything? my point was that royalty was claiming einstein believed in god and i said it was irrefutable that he didn't. you're trying to turn this into an actual discussion about god where i was merely talking about whether or not a small triumverate of scientists were religious men.

i've read enough, believe you me. dawkins is just my most recent.

[The True Adonis]

No response to this?

I was nearly 40.  In the high 30s.

[The True Adonis]

the point is that you're stretching "god" out so far it's meaningless. you're just defining "god" as whatever you want, and in this case it's the abstract concept of physical laws or an event, not an actual being.

hell, a friend of mine defines "god" as the force that created the big bang, so would you say he believes in a god? no, he just uses the word god as a label to something.

and who said anything about being well read in anything? my point was that royalty was claiming einstein believed in god and i said it was irrefutable that he didn't. you're trying to turn this into an actual discussion about god where i was merely talking about whether or not a small triumverate of scientists were religious men.

i've read enough, believe you me. dawkins is just my most recent.

Dawkins is God. 

Have you watched the Root of Evil Documentary?

If not I can get it for you Zach.

[Necrosis]

ROFLMAO.

    You clearly defined your ignorance.

anyone who thinks that this reality is all there is, is ignorant to the physics movement, logics and philosophy.

you might be the dumbest person on this board.

what is ignorant about it?

what that a zoologist is suddenly an expert in philosophy? haha, follow the leader adonis.

heres dawkins

"religion is teh bad and not true because people kill in the name of religion"

but wait a minute richard that doesnt prove shit, just that religion is wrong, the exoteric truth, and people are bad how does that prove that god does not exist?

"i dont care"

what about all the atheits that kill?

"doesnt matter"

free will?

"im not concerned with free will"-this is an actual quote ahahhaahaha

how funny he is not concerned with arguments against.

[Ozzy]

Scientology was founded by a science fiction writer.


True story.

[MisterMagoo]

you dont have a clue what your talking about. for one dawkins is a moron in philosophy, sorry he is a zoologist if im not mistaken, how does that make him a expert on religious.

dawkins is a biologist, and if you actually read a single thing about him or by him you would know that. the fact that you had no idea what dawkins does tells me you have no idea what his actual beliefs are, and this renders everything you could possibly say about ANYTHING in this discussion null and void.

in fact, specitically, dawkins is an EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST, which means he is a DEFINITE expert in terms of religious matters. why? well, because evolutionary biology and religion are battling head to head on the same matter. you talk about dawkins philosophy, but dawkins HAS no philosphy. his books, the selfish gene or the blind watchmaker, are PURELY religious, and he actually doesn't talk about things from a philosophical standpoint.

your complete and utter ignorance in what your talking about reveals you to be the moron you are. as they say, i hope this helps.

[Necrosis]

the point is that you're stretching "god" out so far it's meaningless. you're just defining "god" as whatever you want, and in this case it's the abstract concept of physical laws or an event, not an actual being.

hell, a friend of mine defines "god" as the force that created the big bang, so would you say he believes in a god? no, he just uses the word god as a label to something.

and who said anything about being well read in anything? my point was that royalty was claiming einstein believed in god and i said it was irrefutable that he didn't. you're trying to turn this into an actual discussion about god where i was merely talking about whether or not a small triumverate of scientists were religious men.

i've read enough, believe you me. dawkins is just my most recent.

i proved einstein beleived in god, and your definition of god above is not my god. pantheism becomes so broad it loses meaning. im not a panthiest, im a theist and for good reason, its the most logical.

atheism is ill-logical.

god to me is us and not us, the body but not the god-head. its more complicated but i like einstein beleive in divinity.

dawkins is one of the worst atheists there is, seriously, if your read on the subject then you would agree, others have much better arguments.

the fact that adonis loves dawkins shows his stupidity, someone post one of the arguments he made that was good. please

[The Heckler]

you might be the dumbest person on this board.

This coming from someone with the handle "usmokepole"  

[The True Adonis]

dawkins is a biologist, and if you actually read a single thing about him or by him you would know that. the fact that you had no idea what dawkins does tells me you have no idea what his actual beliefs are, and this renders everything you could possibly say about ANYTHING in this discussion null and void.

in fact, specitically, dawkins is an EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST, which means he is a DEFINITE expert in terms of religious matters. why? well, because evolutionary biology and religion are battling head to head on the same matter. you talk about dawkins philosophy, but dawkins HAS no philosphy. his books, the selfish gene or the blind watchmaker, are PURELY religious, and he actually doesn't talk about things from a philosophical standpoint.

your complete and utter ignorance in what your talking about reveals you to be the moron you are. as they say, i hope this helps.

And the Truth was Spoken!  Dawkowned!

[Ozzy]

This coming from someone with the handle "usmokepole"

Hahahaha

[The True Adonis]

i proved einstein beleived in god, and your definition of god above is not my god. pantheism becomes so broad it loses meaning. im not a panthiest, im a theist and for good reason, its the most logical.

atheism is ill-logical.

god to me is us and not us, the body but not the god-head. its more complicated but i like einstein beleive in divinity.

dawkins is one of the worst atheists there is, seriously, if your read on the subject then you would agree, others have much better arguments.

the fact that adonis loves dawkins shows his stupidity, someone post one of the arguments he made that was good. please

Richard Dawkins is God.

[MisterMagoo]

"religion is teh bad and not true because people kill in the name of religion"

but wait a minute richard that doesnt prove shit, just that religion is wrong, the exoteric truth, and people are bad how does that prove that god does not exist?

"i dont care"

what about all the atheits that kill?

"doesnt matter"

free will?

"im not concerned with free will"-this is an actual quote ahahhaahaha

how funny he is not concerned with arguments against.

sigh... one last reply for you.

once again, EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST. not zoologist. BIG difference.

secondly, dawkins differentiates between religious people who kill, and people who kill in the name of religion. this is why he says it doesn't matter if hitler was a catholic or an atheist, because he was killing based on a very bizarre eugenics concept. he NEVER uses the violent tendencies of the religious as evidence AGAINST god, only that religion is a negative force.

moreover, he explicitly states that even if it were true that all religious people were happy and atheists were all assholes, it wouldn't make god true. he says over and over and over and over again that "goodness" and "badness" and what people do has NO bearing on the  reality of god, it's only mentioned in terms of those who say that believing in god is a good thing to do.

"belief in god" vs "belief in belief". you have no fucking idea what dawkins has said about anything, do you?

[The True Adonis]

i proved einstein beleived in god, and your definition of god above is not my god. pantheism becomes so broad it loses meaning. im not a panthiest, im a theist and for good reason, its the most logical.

atheism is ill-logical.

god to me is us and not us, the body but not the god-head. its more complicated but i like einstein beleive in divinity.

dawkins is one of the worst atheists there is, seriously, if your read on the subject then you would agree, others have much better arguments.

the fact that adonis loves dawkins shows his stupidity, someone post one of the arguments he made that was good. please

Here you go

[MisterMagoo]

i proved einstein beleived in god, and your definition of god above is not my god. pantheism becomes so broad it loses meaning. im not a panthiest, im a theist and for good reason, its the most logical.

atheism is ill-logical.

god to me is us and not us, the body but not the god-head. its more complicated but i like einstein beleive in divinity.

dawkins is one of the worst atheists there is, seriously, if your read on the subject then you would agree, others have much better arguments.

the fact that adonis loves dawkins shows his stupidity, someone post one of the arguments he made that was good. please.

the fact that you don't even know who richard dawkins is or what his actual viewpoints are shows YOUR stupidity.

[The True Adonis]

And another

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[The True Adonis]

THIS ONE IS AWESOME!

[Ozzy]

the fact that you don't even know who richard dawkins is or what his actual viewpoints are shows YOUR stupidity.

Clarification: stupidity and ignorance are two different things.

But being ignorant about a subject and arguing it anyway is stupid.

[MisterMagoo]

Clarification: stupidity and ignorance are two different things.

But being ignorant about a subject and arguing it anyway is stupid.

true, true. i was meaning it more in the sense of claiming authority while being so blaringly ignorant, but you're right i was a little vague. touche. 

[Ozzy]

Nah, I was bored and tried to be funny without success.

[UK Gold]

true, true. i was meaning it more in the sense of claiming authority while being so blaringly ignorant, but you're right i was a little vague. touche. 

I'm getting sick of these 'guys' that google something and ten seconds later think they're an expert. 'Usmokepole' is right in that Dawkins isn't the be all and end all, but his work is very accessible and fun to read. The selfish gene and the god delusion should be studied in schools so children can learn to think for themselves.

The root of all evil doco was superb, and he caught an unbelievable amount of flack from christians in the UK. I particularly like his encounter with ted haggard, the meth using rent boy shagger.