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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #275 on: February 23, 2007, 11:46:27 AM »
dawkins is a biologist, and if you actually read a single thing about him or by him you would know that. the fact that you had no idea what dawkins does tells me you have no idea what his actual beliefs are, and this renders everything you could possibly say about ANYTHING in this discussion null and void.

in fact, specitically, dawkins is an EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST, which means he is a DEFINITE expert in terms of religious matters. why? well, because evolutionary biology and religion are battling head to head on the same matter. you talk about dawkins philosophy, but dawkins HAS no philosphy. his books, the selfish gene or the blind watchmaker, are PURELY religious, and he actually doesn't talk about things from a philosophical standpoint.

your complete and utter ignorance in what your talking about reveals you to be the moron you are. as they say, i hope this helps.

ahahahahahaha you are wrong  on every count, i dwarf you on iq by at least a hundred points.

he is a zoologists, your ignorance of the differentiation of biology and zoology is striking. if there was a quiz at the end of the book you would fail.
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Biography/bio.shtml

 Zoology is the study of animal life. It covers areas ranging from the structure of organisms to the subcellular unit of life. Some zoologists are interested in the biology of particular groups of animals. Others are concerned with the structure and function of animal bodies. Still others study how new animals are formed and how their characteristics are passed on from one generation to another. Zoologists study the interactions of animals with one another and their environments, and the significance of the behavior of animals.

Zoology is both descriptive and analytical. It can be approached either as a basic science or as an applied science. A worker in basic zoology is interested in knowledge of animals for its own sake without consideration of the direct application of the information gained. In contrast, workers in applied zoology are interested in information which will directly benefit humans; medicine is an example.

 Richard Dawkins (b. 1941) is Lecturer in Zoology (1970-present) at Oxford University and the author of numerous books on Darwinian evolution including the The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker. He is perhaps the most well known scientist in the world.

Dawkins' biggest claim to fame is his championing of a gene-centric biology, whereby genes are the central units and agents of life and evolution. On his view, evolution works almost exclusively at the level of genes: selection favors genes that maximize their copies.

Richard Dawkins was educated under the tutelage of ethologist Niko Tinbergen at Oxford University. He proceeded to become Assistant Professor of Zoology at the University of California at Berkeley from 1967-1969 after which he began his current position at Oxford. Dawkins published his first book (The Selfish Gene) in 1976, six years after joining the faculty at Oxford.

In 1995 Richard Dawkins became the first holder of the newly endowed Charles Simonyi Chair of Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University. In 1997 he was elected Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature.

Richard Dawkins is the bestselling author of seven books which include The Selfish Gene(1976; second edition 1989), The Extended Phenotype (1982), The Blind Watchmaker (1986), River Out of Eden (1995), Climbing Mount Improbable (1996) and Unweaving the Rainbow (1998).

your credability is gone stop replying to me in hope no one will think your a moron. hahah

im no expert atheist,  but i know more then you.


his arguments in the blind watchmaker are philosophical, agian you never read the book or did not comprehend it

the title is a direct counter to william paleys argument. he was a philosopher, religion arguments are philosophical you are dumb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Paley

THIS SENTENCE IS NEVER MORE IRONIC

"your complete and utter ignorance in what your talking about reveals you to be the moron you are. as they say, i hope this helps".


please stop responding with idiocy. haha you never even opened a book





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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #276 on: February 23, 2007, 11:47:22 AM »
And the Truth was Spoken!  Dawkowned!


haha you agreed with him, i was waiting for that, your a bigger moron ahahhhaha.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #277 on: February 23, 2007, 11:49:28 AM »
the fact that you don't even know who richard dawkins is or what his actual viewpoints are shows YOUR stupidity.

haha you keep replying in your moron meltdown. hahahahahahaahahahahhaha

i know his viewpoints you do not. ive read his books, watched him debate, you have not. his arguments are strawmen, go look that up so you can respond.

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« Reply #278 on: February 23, 2007, 11:51:13 AM »
true, true. i was meaning it more in the sense of claiming authority while being so blaringly ignorant, but you're right i was a little vague. touche.  ;D

everything you said was wrong and i backed it up with FACT. also im am well read on this subject much more then you as is obvious to anyone he reads this thread, this is a brutal owning.
oh yeah please post one of these great arguments, in your own words. evolution has nothing to due with god. a geneticist by the name of francis collins who mapped the genome disagrees with you to. biology in any facet has fucking zero relevance to the argument of god hope this helps.



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« Reply #279 on: February 23, 2007, 11:56:07 AM »
obsessive quadruple post MELTDOWN

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #280 on: February 23, 2007, 11:59:17 AM »
Usmokepole...... talk about being obsessed

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« Reply #281 on: February 23, 2007, 12:02:25 PM »
dude, usmoke, from your OWN LINK:

Amid this primordial soup of new paradigms, Richard Dawkins the ethologist rapidly mutated into an evolutionary biologist. In 1965, he hit upon an idea breathtakingly simple to understand but extraordinarily powerful in its implications. In essence, Dawkins argued for an ethology of the gene: How do genes communicate? How do genes behave differently in groups than they do as individuals? Why do genes cooperate? How do genes compete? The same questions ethologists ask about chicks and geese and chimpanzees are virtually identical to the sorts of questions they should be asking about the genome and its genes.

Others had played with this notion before, but Dawkins made it his own and aggressively pushed it into the mainstream of science culture.

As the first true ethologist of the gene, Dawkins de facto became an evolutionary biologist. How genes behave over time - which ones dominate, which ones die off, which ones cooperate, which ones compete, which ones change, which ones remain the same - is the very definition of an evolution based on the flow of information.


he started out as an ETHOLOGIST. what ethology? again, your own link...

Ethology, as Tinbergen constantly stressed, was a highly interdisciplinary biological science, requiring insights into psychology, physiology, ecology, sociology, taxonomy, and evolution.

dawkins had his degree in zoology but only in the sense that that a computer programmer has the same degree as someone who works on databases or a newspaper writer has the same degree as a magazine columnist. he was an ethologist who went to evolutionary biology. period. end of story.

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« Reply #282 on: February 23, 2007, 12:11:15 PM »
dude, usmoke, from your OWN LINK:

Amid this primordial soup of new paradigms, Richard Dawkins the ethologist rapidly mutated into an evolutionary biologist. In 1965, he hit upon an idea breathtakingly simple to understand but extraordinarily powerful in its implications. In essence, Dawkins argued for an ethology of the gene: How do genes communicate? How do genes behave differently in groups than they do as individuals? Why do genes cooperate? How do genes compete? The same questions ethologists ask about chicks and geese and chimpanzees are virtually identical to the sorts of questions they should be asking about the genome and its genes.

Others had played with this notion before, but Dawkins made it his own and aggressively pushed it into the mainstream of science culture.

As the first true ethologist of the gene, Dawkins de facto became an evolutionary biologist. How genes behave over time - which ones dominate, which ones die off, which ones cooperate, which ones compete, which ones change, which ones remain the same - is the very definition of an evolution based on the flow of information.


he started out as an ETHOLOGIST. what ethology? again, your own link...

Ethology, as Tinbergen constantly stressed, was a highly interdisciplinary biological science, requiring insights into psychology, physiology, ecology, sociology, taxonomy, and evolution.
you dont understand the interplay of zoology and biology.

im a physicist, what type never mind, no need to state plasma, particle, etc just physicist. he became is a evolutionary biologist, a neo-darwian evolutionist which also fucks his cred more. gradual evolution does not occur, puntucated equilibria do, research gould if you want answers.



he studied zoology and was a professor of zoology, one of the pioneers in the new field and staunch neo darwinist.

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« Reply #283 on: February 23, 2007, 12:14:25 PM »
i also never contended he was not a evolutionary biologist, it is possible to have many disciplines within biology, your the one who went ape shit over zoology and are wrong.

then you said the blind watchmaker isnt philosophical, which is also wrong.


and you didnt know the meaning of ignorance.


funny adonis calls me obsessed but posts under three or four gimmicks ahahah. why are you such a loser dude, are you gaining anything for all the net surfing ahahahah

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« Reply #284 on: February 23, 2007, 12:16:57 PM »
i also never contended he was not a evolutionary biologist, it is possible to have many disciplines within biology, your the one who went ape shit over zoology and are wrong.

then you said the blind watchmaker isnt philosophical, which is also wrong.


and you didnt know the meaning of ignorance.


funny adonis calls me obsessed but posts under three or four gimmicks ahahah. why are you such a loser dude, are you gaining anything for all the net surfing ahahahah

Your grammatical skills are just horrifying.  You are not capable of posting even one sentence in coherent English.  I would suggest getting that GED after all.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #285 on: February 23, 2007, 12:17:59 PM »
i also never contended he was not a evolutionary biologist, it is possible to have many disciplines within biology, your the one who went ape shit over zoology and are wrong.

then you said the blind watchmaker isnt philosophical, which is also wrong.


and you didnt know the meaning of ignorance.


funny adonis calls me obsessed but posts under three or four gimmicks ahahah. why are you such a loser dude, are you gaining anything for all the net surfing ahahahah

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yo, i flame the shit out of you all the time. but got a serious question if you care to answer, what are your reasons for being an atheist, that is what foundation other then blind faith do you base your beleif on. im not religious, not a christian, i just wanted for intellectual purposes to hear why you choos atheism, nothing less nothing more. actual reasons not conjecture. ask this because you do seem like an intelligent person so id like to hear your arguements, not against christianity or a religion, but against a god.

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« Reply #286 on: February 23, 2007, 12:21:12 PM »
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yo, i flame the shit out of you all the time. but got a serious question if you care to answer, what are your reasons for being an atheist, that is what foundation other then blind faith do you base your beleif on. im not religious, not a christian, i just wanted for intellectual purposes to hear why you choos atheism, nothing less nothing more. actual reasons not conjecture. ask this because you do seem like an intelligent person so id like to hear your arguements, not against christianity or a religion, but against a god.

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« Reply #287 on: February 23, 2007, 12:22:18 PM »
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« Reply #288 on: February 23, 2007, 12:32:43 PM »
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yo, i flame the shit out of you all the time. but got a serious question if you care to answer, what are your reasons for being an atheist, that is what foundation other then blind faith do you base your beleif on. im not religious, not a christian, i just wanted for intellectual purposes to hear why you choos atheism, nothing less nothing more. actual reasons not conjecture. ask this because you do seem like an intelligent person so id like to hear your arguements, not against christianity or a religion, but against a god.

peace


your point? you kept flaming on religious people without offering reasons, just wanted to know your reasons.

you never answered no big deal. i dont get what my pm to you has to due with anything. should i post the smiley face pm you sent me?

ahahahahahahahha, i was in a rush, hahahaha. im sure if you give me another crack at it i can spell choose right.

why are you posting as three different people? you a weird dude for sure.

spelling and grammer are not my strongpoints, similar to you and science.

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« Reply #289 on: February 23, 2007, 12:36:29 PM »
spelling and grammer are not my strongpoints

Apparently logical argumentation is not your forte, either.

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #290 on: February 23, 2007, 12:36:51 PM »
Apparently logical argumentation is not your forte, either.


how so?

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« Reply #291 on: February 23, 2007, 12:37:45 PM »

how so?

The fact that you even have to ask that is clear evidence that what I said is true.

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« Reply #292 on: February 23, 2007, 12:39:55 PM »
The fact that you even have to ask that is clear evidence that what I said is true.

great reply!!!!!!


the fact that im asking what is not logical about my argument proves something?

you just keep writing lies, and so on. you dont even form arguments ahaha

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #293 on: February 23, 2007, 01:19:54 PM »
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« Reply #294 on: February 23, 2007, 01:45:46 PM »
Scientology was founded by a science fiction writer.
True story.
Meh. Christianity has as a main character, a magical carpenter who can't die.  ;)

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Re: adonis and calories
« Reply #295 on: February 23, 2007, 01:48:30 PM »
A dose of reality check is in order.

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« Reply #296 on: February 23, 2007, 01:51:26 PM »
How so? Adequate protein intake? What the hell is that? Don't you want to optimize everything? Not just one macro-nutrient?
And by the way, why are carbs so important, yet they aren't ESSENTIAL?!?!?! Answer me than prick.





exactly my thoughts, youngblood. what the fuck is he talking about??? carbs are the only non essential macro. i also like the statement..."any diet contains adequate protein"....come again?!?!?

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« Reply #297 on: February 23, 2007, 01:53:53 PM »
actually here is the exact quote:

"Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet."

adonis...circa 2007.


this may be one of if not the, dumbest nutritional tenets ive ever seen !!!! lol!



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« Reply #298 on: February 23, 2007, 01:58:06 PM »
actually here is the exact quote:

"Carbohydrates are far more important when it comes to bodybuilding as adequate protein intake is always met with any diet."

adonis...circa 2007.


this may be one of if not the, dumbest nutritional tenets ive ever seen !!!! lol!




Another top quality ::) post by "eastcoastbbman" (oh boy what an original name ::))

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« Reply #299 on: February 23, 2007, 02:13:10 PM »
Another top quality ::) post by "eastcoastbbman" (oh boy what an original name ::))

cant beleive you said that shit, you get dumber by the minute.