DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON

[bigben280]

 I need your opinions and/or some resources for a research project--is a conspiracy--was it shot in room??Thanks.

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=secret+space


nuff said..

we did go

it ws before we saied we did..
nail and buzz just stayed in high orbit.

[bigben280]

thanks you--anyone disagree??

[benjamin pearson]

I personally dont think we ever went...... I saw something on TV about it that was pretty convincing including the fact that the flag was blowing and that would be impossible on the moon

[trulytoned]

and you dont see any new videos of it.
Even if they went today it would be interesting to watch

[ToxicAvenger]

I personally dont think we ever went...... I saw something on TV about it that was pretty convincing including the fact that the flag was blowing and that would be impossible on the moon

check Van alen radiation belt and moon landing

[G o a t b o y]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=secret+space


nuff said..

we did go

it ws before we saied we did..
nail and buzz just stayed in high orbit.

That's a 2 hour fuccking video!  Are you nuts??  How 'bout the Cliff notes version?   

[ToxicAvenger]

That's a 2 hour fuccking video!  Are you nuts??  How 'bout the Cliff notes version?   

juuust watch it..

somethings dont have the cliff notes man..something are important enough f royu to make the damn effort ..i did 

" the makers of that movie contacted the manufacturer of our space suites used for the lunar landing and asked if they were ok to use in chernobal"


NOT SAFE to use ws the answer..

hmm the van allen radatuion belt....riiight oputside the earths magnetic field has a higher radiation level than cherolnybel...yet buzz and neil so much as so didn't even puke once! 

also upon landing on the moon..the lander didn't leave a blast crater..

plus..upon landing on the moon..different rocks on the moon have shadows pointing in different directions..and thats a wow with ONE light source..


we DID GO to the moon...

it wasn't when and how we were told..


" houston BE ADVISED THERE IS A SANTA CLAUSE..BE ADVISED THERE IS A SANAA CLAUSE"

research that quote...

And IF YOU NEED PROOF without a shadow of a resonable doubt..

www.video.google.com
NADS evidence

watch part 1 and 2..all 3 hours..YOU WILL BE CONVINCED

you wont though...   like most you wont look at the evidence cause..you r convinced u r right..(however in your case goat..you r not religious..so you might)

[G o a t b o y]

Okay, so without me wasting hours on this....   we did go to the moon, but not on the Apollo 11 mission w Neil, Buzz, and the gang?



Okay... fine..... who cares?


This effects me how, exactly?

[chainsaw]

The VCR wasn't invented yet...  But we had technology to go to the moon
How were the films transmited instantly, we didn't even have poloroid back then.
light travels 186,000 miles a second, the moon is 225,000 miles away
the radio would have at least have had a 2 second delay, even when nasa said they "had to land by computer the luner lander from houston and armstrong had to take over."  BS, I'm a pilot, I know
Where are the photos of the lander landing in the water, it just appeared,
There is no blast under the lunar lander or pad prints from the landing gear, but Neils footprints appeared when he stepped on the surface.. hahahahahahah

Oh Yeah, Nasa lost the original tapes....  thats like the national archives losing our original constitution.
We have lost 2 shuttles on reentry with all the computers, but apollo had the computer that is now the capacity of a cell phone.

In 1989, there was a delay on the telephone when I'd call my mom from cali to pittsburgh.  But not 225,000 miles away on a radio.

We lost the vietnam war, but went to the moon, yeah right!
Nixon was president, the biggest liar,
The nasa money that was granted was really designated to build nuclear bombs for the cold war.

Come on Fella's, Get real.  We went to the moon, but are building a space station now?  For what?
Build a research station on the moon?

[beatmaster]

yes we did, and i found this, explanations about fake pics, conspiracy theory :

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

[Nordic Superman]

Junaid le cock sooker is talking ze shite...

We went to the moon.

I've debunked the radiation BS before.

He's an idiot.

[ToxicAvenger]

Okay, so without me wasting hours on this....   we did go to the moon, but not on the Apollo 11 mission w Neil, Buzz, and the gang?



Okay... fine..... who cares?


This effects me how, exactly?

dont ya care that the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT truth in the universe...that we are NOT alone..has been kept from us?

does that not piss ya off?

does it also not piss ya off that technology far advanced from us might have  been kept from us and the chance to see and study it has been kept from us..

it pisses me off..

[ToxicAvenger]

I've debunked the radiation BS before.

lol..you mean you posted a few sites that de bunked it...

ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..

[ToxicAvenger]

The VCR wasn't invented yet...  But we had technology to go to the moon
How were the films transmited instantly, we didn't even have poloroid back then.
light travels 186,000 miles a second, the moon is 225,000 miles away
the radio would have at least have had a 2 second delay, even when nasa said they "had to land by computer the luner lander from houston and armstrong had to take over."  BS, I'm a pilot, I know
Where are the photos of the lander landing in the water, it just appeared,
There is no blast under the lunar lander or pad prints from the landing gear, but Neils footprints appeared when he stepped on the surface.. hahahahahahah

Oh Yeah, Nasa lost the original tapes....  thats like the national archives losing our original constitution.
We have lost 2 shuttles on reentry with all the computers, but apollo had the computer that is now the capacity of a cell phone.

In 1989, there was a delay on the telephone when I'd call my mom from cali to pittsburgh.  But not 225,000 miles away on a radio.

We lost the vietnam war, but went to the moon, yeah right!
Nixon was president, the biggest liar,
The nasa money that was granted was really designated to build nuclear bombs for the cold war.

Come on Fella's, Get real.  We went to the moon, but are building a space station now?  For what?
Build a research station on the moon?

thankyou..i highly recommend ya watch secret space..uits on video google.

[Nordic Superman]

lol..you mean you posted a few sites that de bunked it...

ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..

Oh, right, sites & videos aren't valid evidence? WTF? ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS POST VIDEOS!

[240 is Back]

ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..

I'm curious on this.  Who can answer it?  That craft landed with a great deal of fire and thrust lowering it. SHould have been a nice mark under it.  But there wasn't one.  That IS odd.  Can someone address it?

[bigben280]

Guys, Great debate so far, thank you!  It seem that were about 50% "we did" and the same we didnt. Keep them coming if you can.

[240 is Back]

BBen,

also check out motives for any lies.

Winning the space race gave the US a super leg up for the emerging technologies and investors of the 70s.  Also we gave USSR a great deal of grain and other aid, which some skeptics believe was a request for quiet.

IMO the lack of any follow up missions, by any nation, is an interesting sign.  If we were so successful with 1969 technology, it should be a breeze today. 

whatever your position, skeptics will find one hole they believe blows the whole sory and swear by it.  Official story people (80% of people) will usually call someone a nut before considering any of their evidence.  There are probably 5 or 10 major errors in the story NASA gave us - PSI in teh suits, radiation, communications timing, and the shady pictures - which remain unanswered.  Good luck with the project.

[haider]

Why haven't russian scientists pointed out these inconsistencies 

[G o a t b o y]

dont ya care that the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT truth in the universe...that we are NOT alone..has been kept from us?

does that not piss ya off?

does it also not piss ya off that technology far advanced from us might have  been kept from us and the chance to see and study it has been kept from us..

it pisses me off..

Oh for god's sake!  This is about UFO's and little green men??     Quick! Someone call Mulder and Scully!   

[240 is Back]

Why haven't russian scientists pointed out these inconsistencies 

Scientists from all nationalities have.  They are mocked for their beliefs.  (Note - I am not making a judgment on the validity of their arguments).

In 1955, a great deal of people believed we were visited by aliens.  The govt put out a memo in 55 which instructed media how to mock and label individuals with beliefs that differed from teh govt position.  Included the disrespectful words to use and the labels to apply each time (CT, nut).  This edict has been in use ever since then to label people who believe something contrary to the official story of most events.  it's worked too.  When someone says UFOs or 911 truth, most people instinctivly think "conspiracy theory" and many will hum twilight zone music.  This is not accidental.

[ToxicAvenger]

Oh for god's sake!  This is about UFO's and little green men??     Quick! Someone call Mulder and Scully!   

fermis paradox
let your learning begin o rich but ill informed 1..

then google drake equation...


lemme know when ya done with these 2..

[beatmaster]

I'm curious on this.  Who can answer it?  That craft landed with a great deal of fire and thrust lowering it. SHould have been a nice mark under it.  But there wasn't one.  That IS odd.  Can someone address it?

well i found this:

Bad: The next argument presented on the show deals with the lunar dust. As the lander descended, we clearly see dust getting blown away by the rocket. The exhaust should have blown all the dust away, yet we can clearly see the astronauts' footprints in the dust mere meters from the lander. Obviously, when NASA faked this they messed it up.

Good: Once again, the weird alien environment of the Moon comes to play. Imagine taking a bag of flour and dumping it onto your kitchen floor (kids: ask your folks first!). Now bend over the pile, take a deep breath, and blow into it as hard as you can. Poof! Flour goes everywhere. Why? Because the momentum of your breath goes into the flour, which makes it move. But note that the flour goes up, and sideways, and aloft into the air. If you blow hard enough, you might see little curlicues of air lifting the flour farther than your breath alone could have, and doing so to dust well outside of where your breath actually blew.

That's the heart of this problem. We are used to air helping us blow things around. The air itself is displaced by your breath, which pushed on more air, and so on. On the Earth, your breath might blow flour that was dozens of centimeters away, even though your actual breath didn't reach that far. On the Moon, there is no air. The only dust that gets blown around by the exhaust of the rocket (which, remember, isn't nearly as strong as the HBs claim) is the dust physically touched by the exhaust, or dust hit by other bits of flying dust. In the end, only the dust directly under or a bit around the rocket was blown out by the exhaust. The rest was left where it was. Ironically, the dust around the landing site was probably a bit thicker than before, since the dust blown out would have piled up there.

I can't resist: another Hoax Believer argument bites the dust.

[tu_holmes]

Well, some of the astronauts who have been to the moon are still alive... Oddly enough... They are the people I'm going to believe... Until one of them says, it was a haox, I've gotta go with it... They are real people and I'm not going to call those individual people liars.

Not in the least.