Author Topic: Ah how the mighty have fallen.....Cormier, so sad (Read 12953 times)

Hedgehog · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:03:00 AM »

Why don't you peeps just STFU and acknowledge the giant nog on Cormier instead.

Chris "Cranium" Cormier.

-Hedge

Cap · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:34:17 AM »

Dballn247 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:41:22 AM »

Cormier > Prince by 8lbs.
Prince > Titus by 10lbs and freedom!!! LOL

In all seriousness though, Cormier and Tom Prince are still bigger than most of the people who post on this board. I don't know why people get all bitchy when their fantasy physique goes away. It's like the anna nicole shit but in a gay sort of way.

Cap · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:44:19 AM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 09:41:22 AM

Cormier > Prince by 8lbs.
Prince > Titus by 10lbs and freedom!!! LOL

In all seriousness though, Cormier and Tom Prince are still bigger than most of the people who post on this board. I don't know why people get all bitchy when their fantasy physique goes away. It's like the anna nicole shit but in a gay sort of way.

It shows that comments that pros have superior genetics and are not all drugs are bullshit. I dare say it, TA is right. To shrink from 320 to 180 (TP) and 270 offseason to about 180 (CC) shows the power of drugs and how much they are on. I never believed my dad early on but it sounds like all the people people telling me the power of juice were right. This might sound like a naive revelation but it isn't. It just further proves what I've been thinking for a while.

Dballn247 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:50:33 AM »

Quote from: cap86 on February 18, 2007, 09:44:19 AM

It shows that comments that pros have superior genetics and are not all drugs are bullshit. I dare say it, TA is right. To shrink from 320 to 180 (TP) and 270 offseason to about 180 (CC) shows the power of drugs and how much they are on. I never believed my dad early on but it sounds like all the people people telling me the power of juice were right. This might sound like a naive revelation but it isn't. It just further proves what I've been thinking for a while.

BS!!! Pro's have genetics. You could take all of Prince's, Cormier's, Coleman's and Cutler's drugs and never, ever look like them. Yes steroids enhance your natural ability. But if you don't have the shape or muscle bellies to begin with your out of luck. Unless of course you believe that you can lengthen your muscle bellies and grow additional mucle fibers. But If you believe that you prolly take Muscle Tech supp's to.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:51:13 AM »

Quote from: cap86 on February 18, 2007, 09:44:19 AM

It shows that comments that pros have superior genetics and are not all drugs are bullshit. I dare say it, TA is right. To shrink from 320 to 180 (TP) and 270 offseason to about 180 (CC) shows the power of drugs and how much they are on. I never believed my dad early on but it sounds like all the people people telling me the power of juice were right. This might sound like a naive revelation but it isn't. It just further proves what I've been thinking for a while.

or maybe it proves that when you don't workout or eat a high protein diet for a long period of time alot of the muscle you built in a gym (which is not needed for survival) disappears...

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Cap · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2007, 10:04:59 AM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 09:50:33 AM

BS!!! Pro's have genetics. You could take all of Prince's, Cormier's, Coleman's and Cutler's drugs and never, ever look like them. Yes steroids enhance your natural ability. But if you don't have the shape or muscle bellies to begin with your out of luck. Unless of course you believe that you can lengthen your muscle bellies and grow additional mucle fibers. But If you believe that you prolly take Muscle Tech supp's to.

Genetics in terms of what? I believe some people have better structures sure but def not superior in other ways. So do blacks have bad genetics b/c their calves suck? The average meathead does compare any to a pro because they think loading up on test and using machines will blow them up. They have shit diet, bad PCT and stop lifting after juicing thinking the gains will stay. Muscle Tech sucks. First shake of Nitro tech at 14 and I hurled, never used again.

Quote from: Earl1972 on February 18, 2007, 09:51:13 AM

or maybe it proves that when you don't workout or eat a high protein diet for a long period of time alot of the muscle you built in a gym (which is not needed for survival) disappears...

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Lol...high protein. Cormier is a drug addict. Weed and coke are his choice of drug now.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2007, 10:14:58 AM »

Quote from: cap86 on February 18, 2007, 10:04:59 AM

Lol...high protein. Cormier is a drug addict. Weed and coke are his choice of drug now.

yeah and protein isn't needed to build and maintain muscle, same thing goes for weights

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Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2007, 10:33:09 AM »

Cormier is nowhere close to 180lbs in that pic! I don't know when the Colorado pro is but if he's been dieting he is probably very lean right there, could be 250lbs IMO ie HUGE.

Wiggs · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2007, 10:38:37 AM »

Is that Don "Dragon" Wilson. B movie superstar that other pic?

delta9mda · « **Reply #35 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:12:34 AM »

Quote from: cap86 on February 18, 2007, 09:44:19 AM

It shows that comments that pros have superior genetics and are not all drugs are bullshit. I dare say it, TA is right. To shrink from 320 to 180 (TP) and 270 offseason to about 180 (CC) shows the power of drugs and how much they are on. I never believed my dad early on but it sounds like all the people people telling me the power of juice were right. This might sound like a naive revelation but it isn't. It just further proves what I've been thinking for a while.

im 195 there is no way chris is only 188.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #36 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:26:27 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on February 18, 2007, 10:14:58 AM

yeah and protein isn't needed to build and maintain muscle, same thing goes for weights

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Its certainly not needed.

gordiano · « **Reply #37 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:32:08 AM »

Quote from: Big_Wiggs on February 18, 2007, 10:38:37 AM

Is that Don "Dragon" Wilson. B movie superstar that other pic?

That's what I thought, too.

Livewire · « **Reply #38 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:34:13 AM »

cormier has a seriously big head

tu_holmes · « **Reply #39 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:54:14 AM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 09:50:33 AM

BS!!! Pro's have genetics. You could take all of Prince's, Cormier's, Coleman's and Cutler's drugs and never, ever look like them. Yes steroids enhance your natural ability. But if you don't have the shape or muscle bellies to begin with your out of luck. Unless of course you believe that you can lengthen your muscle bellies and grow additional mucle fibers. But If you believe that you prolly take Muscle Tech supp's to.

Are you for real?

Look at him... what more do you need? No, he's not fat... but come on... he looks like a million other guys walking down the street now.

I'm not saying he didn't do what he needed to, and I'm not a juice hater... I want the sauce too, but let's face facts, historical bodybuilders did not start drastically changing the human physique until steroids were introduced to the mix.

Look at the guys before the juice and they look like normal people... juice arrives and they become larger than life.

There is no crime in it, in my eyes.

We all have genetics, and people really are 99.999% alike... The human genome is just not that different, and when mutations do occur, they are not usually good.

Once in awhile someone will come along without a myostatin gene or whatever, like that little hercules kid, but really, how many of those kids are walking around? 5 out of 300 Million? If that?

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #40 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:55:36 AM »

Quote from: kiwiol on February 18, 2007, 08:54:28 AM

The reason we brought it up is because you're in this thread, whining about everything as usual. Hope this helps. Now be a good 'boy' and go eat shit.

Bluto calling someone gay is like Danielson calling someone a pill-head

onlyme · « **Reply #41 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:55:49 AM »

Was Don Wilson at that show.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #42 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:55:57 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on February 18, 2007, 11:26:27 AM

Its certainly not needed.

What did the early guys like Steve Reeves eat? I'd like to see his diet.

Dballn247 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 18, 2007, 02:40:18 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 11:54:14 AM

Are you for real?

Look at him... what more do you need? No, he's not fat... but come on... he looks like a million other guys walking down the street now.

I'm not saying he didn't do what he needed to, and I'm not a juice hater... I want the sauce too, but let's face facts, historical bodybuilders did not start drastically changing the human physique until steroids were introduced to the mix.

Look at the guys before the juice and they look like normal people... juice arrives and they become larger than life.

There is no crime in it, in my eyes.

We all have genetics, and people really are 99.999% alike... The human genome is just not that different, and when mutations do occur, they are not usually good.

Once in awhile someone will come along without a myostatin gene or whatever, like that little hercules kid, but really, how many of those kids are walking around? 5 out of 300 Million? If that?

So are you saying that you are bigger than Cormier? Really???

You spend too much time looking at pictures. If you see him in real life you'll know what I'm talking about. There are some guys who are just naturally bigger and he happens to be one of them. I'm not saying that he didnt lose a shit load of size, but He is still bigger that most people on this board. Let me guess you prolly think your bigger than Shawn Ray because you weigh more than him?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #44 on:** February 18, 2007, 02:44:45 PM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 02:40:18 PM

So are you saying that you are bigger than Cormier? Really???

You spend too much time looking at pictures. If you see him in real life you'll know what I'm talking about. There are some guys who are just naturally bigger and he happens to be one of them. I'm not saying that he didnt lose a shit load of size, but He is still bigger that most people on this board. Let me guess you prolly think your bigger than Shawn Ray because you weigh more than him?

Did I say I was bigger? When did "I" factor into this... I was simply relating scientific fact about the human genome... Of course I'm not bigger than Cormier... I've never stood next to him and have no comparison.

My point was about the fact that unless he's a mutant, which I doubt he is... he is %99.999 just like me, you, and most everyone else on earth.

Why would you infer that I even think I'm bigger than any pro? Current or past? How did you get that out of my post at all?

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #45 on:** February 18, 2007, 02:47:16 PM »

thats not all just being off drugs....Thats being out out of the gym. that fool just gave up!

Dballn247 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 18, 2007, 02:58:34 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 02:44:45 PM

Did I say I was bigger? When did "I" factor into this... I was simply relating scientific fact about the human genome... Of course I'm not bigger than Cormier... I've never stood next to him and have no comparison.

My point was about the fact that unless he's a mutant, which I doubt he is... he is %99.999 just like me, you, and most everyone else on earth.

Why would you infer that I even think I'm bigger than any pro? Current or past? How did you get that out of my post at all?

You just said that 99.999% of people are the same, just like me and you. I know he's bigger than I am. So is he the mutant at the .0001% level? Your post implies that we can all attain the same level that some pro's do. Not likely. That's like saying all the kids in the sandbox will make it to the NFL.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #47 on:** February 18, 2007, 03:03:22 PM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 02:58:34 PM

You just said that 99.999% of people are the same, just like me and you. I know he's bigger than I am. So is he the mutant at the .0001% level? Your post implies that we can all attain the same level that some pro's do. Not likely. That's like saying all the kids in the sandbox will make it to the NFL.

I stand by that statement and science will back that up. I'm not implying anything of the sort when it comes to being a pro... Attaining that level requires much more than just being a human being... you have to have a drive and determination that requires a lot of sacrifice... You also need drugs... lots of drugs... That's just being real.

Making it in the NFL requires SKILL... skill requires the practice, the sacrifice, the heart just like being a Pro bodybuilder... I'm not saying that there are not physical differences... but science will back up my claim that we are all 99.999 percent alike...

If Cormier never touched a drug, would he be a pro in the IFBB? That's a simple yes or no question... What do you think?

I'm not against the drug usage, and I am not saying that "So and So is ALL DRUGS"... It requires much more than drugs to become a pro bodybuilder (or any other pro athlete most likely in todays age)... and I'm not down playing all of the other things that it requires.

Also, for the record, I'm pro steroid..

Dballn247 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 18, 2007, 03:06:38 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 03:03:22 PM

I stand by that statement and science will back that up. I'm not implying anything of the sort when it comes to being a pro... Attaining that level requires much more than just being a human being... you have to have a drive and determination that requires a lot of sacrifice... You also need drugs... lots of drugs... That's just being real.

Making it in the NFL requires SKILL... skill requires the practice, the sacrifice, the heart just like being a Pro bodybuilder... I'm not saying that there are not physical differences... but science will back up my claim that we are all 99.999 percent alike...

If Cormier never touched a drug, would he be a pro in the IFBB? That's a simple yes or no question... What do you think?

No with 100% certainty...He could do well in the NPC though. Yes or no question for you. If you had all the drugs in the world do you think you could match physiques?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #49 on:** February 18, 2007, 03:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Dballn247 on February 18, 2007, 03:06:38 PM

No with 100% certainty...He could do well in the NPC though. Yes or no question for you. If you had all the drugs in the world do you think you could match physiques?

Nope... I wouldn't, because I would not put forth the sacrifice and dedication it takes to be a pro bodybuilder...

Do I think that If I made those sacrifices and did all of the other things required, could I do it? Yes, I believe I could... I believe I am capable of anything if I have the desire and drive to do it.

I do not have that when it comes to bodybuilding, and I can admit that.