Muslims want to 'BAN' un-islamic schools

[Diesel1]

DEMANDS for a ban on “un-Islamic” activities in schools will be set out by the Muslim Council of Britain today.

Targets include playground games, swimming lessons, school plays, parents’ evenings and even vaccinations.

And the calls for all children to be taught in Taliban-style conditions will be launched with the help of a senior Government education adviser.

Professor Tim Brighouse, chief adviser to London schools, was due to attend the event at the capital’s biggest mosque.

His presence there was seen as “deeply worrying”, and a sign that the report was backed by the Government.

Tory MP Greg Hands said: “The MCB needs to realise it has to move closer to the rest of the community, not away from it.

“The presence of Tim Brighouse implies Government back­ing of this report. This is very worrying.”

Terry Sanderson of the National Secular Society said the report was a “recipe for disaster”.

He added: “Schools with even just a handful of Muslim kids will find they have to follow these guidelines because there aren’t the staff to have one set of classes for Muslims and another for the rest.

“The MCB shouldn’t try to force its religious agenda on children who may not want it. The Government needs to send the MCB packing. Schools should be about teaching, not preaching.”

The report, Towards Greater Understanding – Meeting The Needs of Muslim Pupils In State Schools, says all schools should bring in effective bans for all pupils on “un-Islamic activities” like dance classes.

It also wants to limit certain activities during Ramadan. They include science lessons dealing with sex, parents’ evenings, exams and immunisation programmes.

The holy month – when eating and drinking is not allowed in daylight hours – should also see a ban on swimming lessons in case pupils swallow water in
the pool.

When swimming is allowed, boys should wear clothing covering their bodies “from the navel to the neck”, even during single-sex pool sessions, while girls must be covered up completely at all times, apart from the face and hands.

The MCB adds that schools should ensure contact sports, including football and basketball, “are always in single-gender groups”.

Even school trips are targeted in the report, which wants them all to be made single-sex “to encourage greater participation from Muslim pupils”.

It wants Arabic language classes for Muslim pupils, and says the Koran should be recited in music classes. And all schools should ensure they have prayer rooms with washing facilities attached, it says.

In art classes, Muslim children should not be allowed to draw people, as this is forbidden under some interpretations of Islamic law.

And while the MCB insists that all British children should learn about Islam, it wants Muslims to have the right to withdraw their children from RE lessons dealing with Christianity and other faiths.

The MCB says special treatment and opt-outs are necessary because otherwise Muslim pupils will feel excluded from school activities and lessons.

The MCB claims to be the voice of Britain’s 1.5million Muslims and was heavily courted by politicians including Tony Blair following the September 11 attacks. Its former secretary-general Iqbal Sacranie was awarded a knighthood in 2005.

But other Muslim groups criticised the report. Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain said: “There has been no discussion on these issues in the Muslim community.”

And the Sufi Muslim Council – which claims to represent far more British Muslims than the MCB – said the report misunderstood Ramadan.

It added: “This is not what Islam or Ramadan is about. Ramadan is about training yourself while carrying on with everyday life.”

The Department for Edu­cation tried to distance itself from the report last night, and insisted Professor Brighouse was attending the launch only in a “personal capacity”.

A spokesman said it would read the report “with interest”.

The MCB did not comment.

It came as Britain's first Muslim peer called for women to stop wearing veils, claiming that they represent “a barrier to integration”.

Reigniting the debate over the face veil, or niqab, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said there was no religious reason why Muslim women should wear them – and claimed that veils now cause society more harm than good.

The peer, who has urged the authorities to clamp down on preachers of hate, spoke during a debate held in the heart of the Arab world.

He told a mainly Muslim audience in Doha, Qatar, that he does not want a legal ban on the veil being worn in public – as many other nations are introducing, including Muslim Turkey and Egypt.

But he said: “The face veil is a barrier to integration in the West. The veil is now a mark of separation, segregation and defiance against mainstream British culture.

“There’s nothing in the Koran to say that wearing a niqab is desirable, let alone compulsory. It’s purely cultural. It’s an identity thing which has been misinterpreted.

“They were supposed to be worn so that women wouldn’t be harassed. But women, and communities as a whole, are now being harassed because they are wearing them."

The Muslim Council of Britain’s assistant secretary
general, Inayat Bunglawala, said yesterday: “Peoples’ attitudes are responsible for harming integration, not veils.

“And wearing them is very much a matter for individual Muslim women.”

* What do YOU think? Should Muslims tell us how to run our schools? Comment NOW at Have Your Say.

[sandycoosworth]

link?

this is the kinda socialism present in europe and canada that makes my stomach turn

when people come to this country they should be second class citizens, not more important than those of us born here

[Diesel1]

Sorry, I forgot the link
http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1264

Some of the comments make good reading

I'm sure I am not alone in thinking that enough is enough from moslems in this country.
They make too much noise - far in excess of their supposed numbers amongst us. Talk about the islamic tail wagging the British Bulldog.
They must be told that if they do not like the way we do things here then they know where the airport is. There are many countries where they can live under the conditions they are demanding from us here.
Of course, it isn't only the moslems to blame for the noise they are making; this government's failed multicultural policies are also to blame as is the government for giving this group nourishment in return for votes. It has to stop.
lickyalips, Richmond  
 

 This is a comedy article of course?

Actually, if it is a comedy article, it isn't a good one - it is not even remotely funny. In fact it is pretty scary stuff if a minority whose culture has little in common with the host community feels able to demand that it’s at best quirky, and at worst, completely alien ways should be imposed on us all.

And attended by somebody from the government? Get out of here!

Paul Wakeford, Frome  
 

 No, Muslims should not be allowed to tell us how to run our schools. This is the British Isles... thats BRITISH!!! Its worrying to think that this is being backed up by a government who doesnt know its backside from its elbow. If they want to live under Islamic law then they should flee to an Islamic country. If Muslims want to give their children a decent education then teach them at home. I can see things boiling over very shortly by the British public, and once that starts... the government will be powerless.
We need to unite as one and stop these sort of things from happening before its too late, something has to give... and im damn sure it wont be the British public.

Steve, Telford, England  
 

 When will someone with democratic accountability get the courage to tell people that faith is a private matter that should not have any bearing on school or civic policy. I don't want to see minarets and half-moons polluting our skylines and I don't want militant anglophobes peddling their medieval mythology on our streets.

NO to veils
NO to burqas
NO to blacked out car windows to 'protect the modesty of female drivers'
NO to halal school meals
NO to publicly funded 'prayer rooms'
NO NO NO to creeping islamic encroachment on British values!
Jerry Hart, Cambridge, UK  
 

 I am deeply offended by the very thought that a minority in this country who practice such a hateful religion should even have a say in MY CHRISTIAN COUNTRY.
janice dalton, sevenoaks kent  
 

 Throughout this article I kept referring back to the date- surely it can't be April 1st yet, can it? If the MCB are serious, then we MUST refuse these outrageous demands. Bad enough that they feel they have a right to impose these conditions on those who share their faith, but this is yet another step towards their goal of abolishing our hard-won freedoms and creating a Muslim state.
Kathy Maidment, Chorley Lancashire  
 

 It seems that the minority groups and the PC brigade are trying to bring down a British institution which has lasted centuries. If they want to carry on with their own ways then keep it to the home and do not try and force it onto the mainstream.
kevin Barnard, Hull, UK  
 

 This has or is going too far now! As some have already said this is a Christian Country, the main religion of this country is Christian. They have chose to live in our Country, so they should learn to live with our Laws
G. S. , Poole  
 

 If the government does not reject this "demand" in the strongest possible way it will gift countless votes to the BNP.
As the only way to voice opinion I would have to consider this myself.
God forbid.
peter murphy, United Kingdom  
 

 The Muslims must accept that 'When in Rome, we must do as the Romans.' They are free to impose their customs in their country of origin, and the country that the Muslim faiths began in and they should feel free to that in those countrys. But this country has never imposed such dreadful laws upon its people and therefore, I would fight such horrific changes to our culture to my last and dying breath.
We see the horrendous suffering that goes on in Muslim countrys because of their belief system and oppression of their women and weaker members. We cannot allow such superstitious beliefs to oppress a free nation such as the United Kingdom.

Julie, Leicester  

I do not really care who wants these favours, or for what reason.

What I wish to know is why the Government in a so called, "democracy" is even considering these "requests", from a group that, according to their figures are only 4% of the population?

Since when, in a "democrcy" did 96% of the people have to bend over forewards for the 4% minority?
Ragnar Vagmornasson, Berlin. Prussia  
 

 Dear Sir
The main problem as I see it is that the BNP could 'cash in' on the unrest that this could create. As in the film 'V for vendeta'
Best regards
Roger Gale
Roger Gale, Norway  
 

 Many Muslims came here as 'refugees' from Afghanistan to escape the oppressive Taliban, now courtesy of this ridiculous government the same culture is being encouraged!
Jacky, Grimsby UK  
 

 I was married to a Muslim and a more miserable existence I couldn't beat. If these rules are brought into our English schools I think all non-muslims should stop going to school until common sense is restored. This is a Christian country and if muslims don't like our way of life then they should go and live in a muslim country.
Heather Oakes, Nottingham  
 

 why on earth are we still so naive when it comes to these people, weve let them into our country gave them homes, give them money! WHY? 98% of crimes in this country are caused by these people not just a worry for the individual but now a worry for thousands of innocent people!!!!! This should be where we draw the line if they want Taliban style schools Go Back to a Taliban Country!
laura, bromley uk  
 

 I think that discussion and debate with the muslim community it all part of creating a more tolerent, multicuteral society. I applaud the efforts the Muslim Council for Britain have made in fostering debate.
John, Ipswich  
 

 The UK will be an Islamic state within 50 YEARS!
Gary, Barcelona, Spain  
 

 Last time I checked I was living in England which is a Christian country. Integration means respect for the culture you chose to live in, not demanding that they change to your ways. Besides why should all children learn Islamic rules but Islamic children not the other rules, all should learn about each others religion, thereby creating a better understanding. People who want to be taught Taliban style should go to a country where the Taliban rules. Things like this just create a lot of resentment and promote organizations like the BNP, while they are the view of a small minority and most probably even offensive to a lot of Muslims.
Anna, London  
 

 Come on, they're just having a laugh, aren't they? Good old British sense of humour, part of the integration process just like the coal bags the women put over their heads.
Ian, Maidstone, England  
 

THIS IS OUTRAGIOUS! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. SOMEBODY SHOULD SORT THIS LOT OUT AND QUICK. THE MUSLIMS ARE SUCCEEDING IN DIVIDING SOCIETY AND FOR THAT REASON SHOULD CONFORM WITH THE REST OR GO!
chris, manchester uk  

Has this country gone to pot? Where is the so called 'Integration' into society that the MCB keep talking about?
Instead they are looking to set out Taliban style schooling in our schools where parents are probably quite happily moving on with our society.
I think it is a disgrace and a slur on us that we can even allow these sort of demands from a so called Council, who want us to be more like them!
Most moderate Muslims are fine with society as a whole, even though people struggle, and they have hope. The MCB promotes the opposite.
As far as i am concerned, they should be expelled or sent packing.
Jonathon Smyth, UK  
 

 The sheer number of areas where special practice has to be adopted for Muslim pupils makes these guidelines administratively impractical unless all pupils follow the same rules e.g. no sex education, no dance lessons, no drawing human beings, all boys being allowed to grow beards. Perhaps the MCB hopes non-Muslim pupils may demand what they see as privileges afforded to Muslim pupils or by some process of suggestibility,seek to imitate them. It should be seen as an attempt to Islamicise British society, little by little, and be dismissed, with a request for them them re-submit the absolute bare minimum of requirements, with the emphasis on minimum.
jim edwards, Cwmbran, UK  
 

 I think this report going to cause divisions between other faiths. What happened to everyone being equal? Religion is a state of mind, a belief not a uniform. What if all religions started saying they want schools run to meet their needs? Would we close down all schools and open a Muslim School, A sikh School, a Christian School. We live in a multicultural country, where we should expect everyone and learn about other faiths. You cannot change a person's beliefs but should children not be given the Opportunity to make their own decisions??
Manjit, England  
 

 I am speechless. Who the hell do they think they are? If they don't like our schools, then they can always emigrate to, say, Saudi Arabia, where I'm sure they'll find the education more to their liking.
Gabrielle, London  
 

 I AM SICK TO DEATH OF THIS PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS GROUP ATTEMPTING TO DICTATE TO US HOW OUR INSTITUTIONS AND WAY OF LIFE SHOULD BE RUN.
ALL WE GET FROM THEM ARE DEMANDS, DEMANDS, DEMANDS... AND ALL WE GET FROM OUR MILKSOP POLITICIANS IS CONCESSION AFTER CONCESSION AFTER CONCESSION.

IF OUR WAY OF LIFE IS NOT SUITED TO THEM, THEN GET OUT AND, PREFERABLY, TAKE OUR POLITICIANS WITH THEM.

HOW MUCH MORE DO WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH!!!

nico, west sussex  
 

 The Britsh public should DEMAND that the Muslim council of Britain ( sic ) should be broken up now !
tony, flackwell heath, england  
 

 The Muslims have already taken over many C of E schools my children attended a local C of E school out numbered by Muslims being educated about the Islamic festivals while Muslim children were excused from Christian activities but surprise our Christmas parties were popular.
As far as I am concerned they are welcome but not at our expense if they want to live under Sharia law and be educated in Muslim schools they have that right, in any suitable Muslim country that will accept them.
Talk about cake and eat it they have been welcomed into a Christian country and now wish to impose their religious beliefs on UK citizens whilst forming ghettos and refusing to integrate into a society in which they chose to live.
They welcome the benefits offered by the United Kingdom and the standard of living if they wish to return to their roots and follow their strongly held religious beliefs and laws we should make every effort to assist them.
The choice must be their own stay and integrate or go to an Islamic state who's religion does not call for equality but for domination and rules by fear not of hell and damnation but the fear of violence.
This is England a Christian country with its own history and culture if our culture is not acceptable to you I politely suggest that you make a choice stay and abide by English law or go freely any time you wish!

Louis Cannell, Northampton, UK  
 

 tell them to get lost.colin

colin, stoke-england  
 

 What on earth is happening to this country? Every day it seems this government goes out of its way to punish the average law abiding citizen in some way or another.

This is the latest attempt to erode our identity by pandering to the whims of a few selfish individuals. Yes I use the word selfish because that is what it is. What about what the none Muslim children in these schools want? Can you imagine for a second that these kind of changes would be entertained by any other nation in the world?

Of course not. And for good reason. If you truly wish to be accepted into a new country then you must first and foremost sign up to the rules and cultures of that country, with your own personal beliefs kept for yourself in private.

The trouble is the UK has lost touch with its identity and is now a mish mash of different schools of thought all wanting things done their own way. Does it remind you of anywhere else at the moment? Iraq perhaps? Think about it.

Other nations are starting to catch on to this and getting tough on the extremist elements within these communities. That is why they are coming here. Its free and easy.

I have nothing against the Muslim faith or any other faith. The majority of these people just want to get on like everyone else and are being punished by this government like everyone else by the government introducing in all their wisdom, gems of what THEY think is helping. Newsflash Mr Blair you are making things worse.

If this government entertains this idiotic suggestion in our schools then this is just another nail in the coffin of 'Great' Britain (RIP).

Bottom line....if you don't like the way things are done in this country regarding education or anything else for that matter, then live somewhere else, simple.
Kenneth Bamford, Salisbury, UK  
 

 This is so difficult to believe. Why can the Council not see how damaging their diktats are to the majority of law abiding Muslims who are happy to be living in the UK (or at least no more unhappy than the rest of us under this ridiculous Labour 'Government'). This is a christian country - and yes the c is lower case deliberately - and with the exception of Northern Ireland, have had little problems with inter-faith conflict for hundreds of years. If 'The Troubles' taught us only one thing, it should be that education based on faith is dangerously divisive and perpetuates fear, seperatism and misunderstanding. The only strong society is an integrated one. Specific faith education should be the responsibility of families not schools and it should be done outside school hours. This applies to all faith schools, not just Muslim ones.
E Morrison, Stockport  

Little by little,and not even stealthily but brazenly,the more extreme elements amongst the Muslim community are wittling away at the British way of life.
D. Jones, KIdsgrove. England.  
 

 SO I AM EXPECTED TO PAY TAXES AND COUNCIL TAX TO EDUCATE CHILDREN IN A WAY OF LIFE THAT IS TOTALLY ALIEN TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE HOST NATION !

GET REAL , AND THINK OF THIS PROPOSAL IN REVERSE IN AN ISLAMIC STATE. TIME TO SAY NO! NO! NO!,AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO BACK TO YOUR OWN TALEBAN TAUGHT COUNTRY.
T.S.MERSEYSIDE
TIM SMITH, ST.HELENS,ENGLAND  
 

 How ridiculous, if it was the 1st of April I would think it was a April Fool prank, Who do these people at the MCB think they are, they have been welcomes into this country as immigrants and now they have the cheek to try to tell us how to run our country.

Although I am not racist, I feel that if these idiots want to live in an islamic state then they should move away from Christian Britain.
Colin Jackson, Merseyside, UK  
 

 How dare these people dictate what happens in our schools - this will create a greater divide between religions. This nonsense has gone far enough and as for a government minister being involved - that's going to give some credance to their idiotic demands. I can just see the reaction if Christians tried this in an Islamic country - right! so let this country have the guts to do it to them. If they don't like it there's a perfectly good alternative.
Peter Hindley, Inverness  
 

 Minority group? Have I blinked and missed something? Muslims are not in the minority, it's the English that are the minority now.

Muslims can say whatever they want about what is taught in schools as long as it's in a Muslim country, which this isn't.

Yet another example of Muslims doing their best to stir up racial tension by trying to change OUR country.
Billy, London  
 

 I say that we treat the Muslims as we are treated in predominately Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, without going so far. For a start, in Saudi, any discussion on Christianity such as here would not be allowed, even carrying a Bible, the book most feared by Muslims, in public is ot allowed.
B J Deller, Marbella Spain  
 

 Hey Britain, you voted the Blair Goveernment into power, now suffer!
James, Blanqefort, France  
 

 Its about time this ...what was once a great country, regained its standards and banned all but christian teachings. Does the Church of England stand for nothing anymore, this country is predominatly of the Christian faith, other faiths are guest religions ...and only none terrorist (peace abiding) religions too. I am sick to the back teeth of hearing about muslims this, and muslims that. Every day we hear of another atrocity committed in the name of Islam. No way should they even have a say in how the schools of this country are run ...LEAVE NOW IF YOU CAN'T BE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, and go to a country what is more compatible with your way of Islamic thinking!!!
pentest, Hyde UK  
 

 No doubt the present Government will cave in to the PC brigade. I can't believe that a minority group have the cheek to sugget to their host country how British schools should be run. These people live and work in the United Kingdom. Therefore they should accept the traditions of the country and how British schools are run, and learn to live with that fact. If, for some reason they are not happy with the way things are run in Great Britain, then maybe they should seek an alternative country to live.
Liz, Germany  
 

 No they shouldn't and quite frankly I am getting sick and tired of this minority telling us what they want. The time has come to tell them what we expect. If you don't like our country, its traditions and its laws GO HOME we dont want you and we have had enough of your constant bleating for more of everything islamic. We are a tolerant nation but if you keep demanding you will find that, that tolerance can lead to something else.This is not an Islamic country if you want Islam and an islamic lifestyle return to a country where you may practice your religion and views to your hearts content.
Will the Government cave in on this issue highly likely although I can't see how Blair will justify capitulation to 1.5 million muslims and at the same time tell 1.79million Motorists to get lost.
Jeff Cox, Auckland. N.Z.  

[Diesel1]

link?

this is the kinda socialism present in europe and canada that makes my stomach turn

when people come to this country they should be second class citizens, not more important than those of us born here

Thge funny thing is that Canada seems to be embracing this shit even though they can see the problems it causes especially in Britain.

Jag will be loving this

[Bindare_Dundat]

link?

this is the kinda socialism present in europe and canada that makes my stomach turn

when people come to this country they should be second class citizens, not more important than those of us born here

It used to be poor, humble and thankful Europeans that would come here to make a better life for themselves. The new wave of immigrants may look poor and play stupid but they have the money to get in and the intelligence to play the system to get the rigths they feel they deserve over the rest of us.

[Nordic Superman]

Diesel, would you be up for an outright ban on islam in britain?

[210 and growing]

Diesel, would you be up for an outright ban on islam in britain?

I f ckin would man !! Enough is enough. But (as per the last thread on this), nothing will be done. Overun in our own country insdie 100 years - take it to the bank !! 

[Nordic Superman]

I f ckin would man !! Enough is enough. But (as per the last thread on this), nothing will be done. Overun in our own country insdie 100 years - take it to the bank !! 

Indeed 

[Diesel1]

Diesel, would you be up for an outright ban on islam in britain?

aye, I would that...lad

I don't want to see minarets and half-moons polluting our skylines

I couldn't agree more

[OKMike]

this is the kinda socialism present in europe and canada that makes my stomach turn

when people come to this country they should be second class citizens, not more important than those of us born here

TRUE!  Immigrants should integrate into the society they are moving to, not the other way around!

[Slin1]

This thread sounds interesting but i can not possibly read all that text so can some1 write a summary

[Camel Jockey]

You guys have the power to stop this. Don't let this islam garbage ruin your way of life.

[ToxicAvenger]

but they have the money to get in

no guys most of what yall r importing is scum...

did you know back in the 90s there used to be a greencard lottery where thousands upon thousands of greencards were just handed out in paki...

i bet the UK equivalent were handed out also..



it took us around 50kish in lawyer fees to get an LI buziness visa..while some people were just getting handed residency 

plus because of a technality in Amoco contracts (cant buy anything under corporation name..gotta be YOUR name under owner) we had to spend almost another 50 to get around it 

its YOUR laws thats allowing scum to move in..we spent all this money  TO GET AWAY FROM SUCH

[Debussey]

These talibans. Take them out. This = going to far.

[Camel Jockey]

no guys most of what yall r importing is scum...

did you know back in the 90s there used to be a greencard lottery where thousands upon thousands of greencards were just handed out in paki...

i bet the UK equivalent were handed out also..



it took us around 50kish in lawyer fees to get an LI buziness visa..while some people were just getting handed residency 

plus because of a technality in Amoco contracts (cant buy anything under corporation name..gotta be YOUR name under owner) we had to spend almost another 50 to get around it 

its YOUR laws thats allowing scum to move in..we spent all this money  TO GET AWAY FROM SUCH

You do make a valid point. Europe and Canada are basically allowing this bullshit to happen.

You don't see this bs in the states because people integrate here. It's not a matter of choice, but a matter of survival. You don't learn english and respect american laws then you're not gonna get a job or accomplish anything. And you can't leech off welfare either, as the US welfare system is pretty strict.

These fuckers don't want to respect your customs? Fucking boot them!

[beatmaster]

unacceptable, try to do that where they used to live = shot down!!!

i'm fuck n' tired of those peoples, we have to do everything to please them, but they wont do a fuck n' thing to adapte, i'll say bomb the country where they came from!!! ( i know it's rude ) do it, do it now!!!

[Camel Jockey]

unacceptable, try to do that where they used to live = shot down!!!

i'm fuck n' tired of those peoples, we have to do everything to please them, but they wont do a fuck n' thing to adapte, i'll say bomb the country where they came from!!! ( i know it's rude ) do it, do it now!!!

Don't let them come into your country. Don't be apologist pussies. Yes, it's that simple.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

Don't let them come into your country. Don't be apologist pussies. Yes, it's that simple.

Sorry pal the U.S. government would have me put in prison or so help me god i'd quit my job and shot turban wearing fucks for a living and id sell there head diaper for 5 bucks on the corner...... And lord knows if i beat every one of these damn muslims in the head with a stick everytime i saw one i'd be thrown into jail as well. If it was my choice anarchy would rule the land only the strong survive... So dont say do something or there wouldnt be any curry eating fucks on my block..

[beatmaster]

Sorry pal the U.S. government would have me put in prison or so help me god i'd quit my job and shot turban wearing fucks for a living and id sell there head diaper for 5 bucks on the corner...... And lord knows if i beat every one of these damn muslims in the head with a stick everytime i saw one i'd be thrown into jail as well. If it was my choice anarchy would rule the land only the strong survive... So dont say do something or there wouldnt be any curry eating fucks on my block..

man gimme an M16, thank!

unfortunatly, we can't do shit......... the fuck 'n government as to be politicly correct...... yeah! that and losing our identity!!!

[Camel Jockey]

Sorry pal the U.S. government would have me put in prison or so help me god i'd quit my job and shot turban wearing fucks for a living and id sell there head diaper for 5 bucks on the corner...... And lord knows if i beat every one of these damn muslims in the head with a stick everytime i saw one i'd be thrown into jail as well. If it was my choice anarchy would rule the land only the strong survive... So dont say do something or there wouldnt be any curry eating fucks on my block..

I'm telling resonably intelligent people what to do, so you are excluded.

ps most muslims don't wear tubans, but Sikhs do and they're indians.

[Camel Jockey]

man gimme an M16, thank!

unfortunatly, we can't do shit......... the fuck 'n government as to be politicly correct...... yeah! that and losing our identity!!!

haha You obviously don't know about what's taking place in Europe. Nothing bad is really happening in the states because people usually integrate into the system here. Losing your identity? Try and know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.   

Oh and an m-16 isn't the answer as the rags will strike right back with a 7.62 in your kisser. 

[beatmaster]

explain to me why the united states is not losing his identity!!! at this rate there wont be real American in 10 years (not only from stupid Islamic with their stupid religion), enough i say, if they come to America, get with the program or go back in your cave!!!

i don't give a shit about whats happening overthere, but i know whats happening over here!!!

don't worry M16 will do fine, promess!!! at least i'm gonna have a few, before they get me back on my kisser.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

explain to me why the united states is not losing his identity!!! at this rate there wont be real American in 10 years (not only from stupid Islamic with their stupid religion), enough i say, if they come to America, get with the program or go back in your cave!!!

i don't give a shit about whats happening overthere, but i know whats happening over here!!!

don't worry M16 will do fine, promess!!! at least i'm gonna have a few, before they get me back on my kisser.

God damn right.... why do you think we enter countries and no one does shit.... Because you cant fuck with lady liberty and the m-16 a2... Bring a whole bunch of dune coons to the bays of new york or to the west coast... Mother fuckers will look like hamburger on the coasts..... mutilated..  That bullshit on 9/11 was catching us with our hands in our pockets.. but the amount of arab fucks here pisses  me off they dont offer shit but a new stench.. i agree with beast come here legally and earn your keep, speak the language fluently or get the fuck out... and the first time you speak badly of a true american or the country, period. Is the first time we drag you thru the streets and stone you... then we make your family bury you...wait thats the middle east.. this is america not a fucking melting pot for all you fucks who countries suck... so did ours, but we did shit to fix it... Do something other then stank up my country... And the coons from the dunes aint got shit on the weapons we have.. that's why your all ending up dead....

[Nordic Superman]

Don't let them come into your country. Don't be apologist pussies. Yes, it's that simple.

I don't think you understand. We are shackled by EU bureaucracy. It's over for Britain, we're not in a position to act even if we wanted to, due to ridiculous EU human rights laws etc.

[Camel Jockey]

i agree with beast come here legally and earn your keep, speak the language fluently or get the fuck out... and the first time you speak badly of a true american or the country, period. Is the first time we drag you thru the streets and stone you... then we make your family bury you...wait thats the middle east..

I agree with you on that.

You are obviously mixing up other people(like south asians) with arabs. Did you pass highschool social studies?  And obviously you've never been to New York, where a lot of small businesses are owned by people you're wrongly bad mouthing.