Author Topic: AGE 25, FULL GENETIC POTENTIAL?? (Read 2782 times)

Devon97 · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 01:32:43 PM »

Swoody thinks he has

Quote from: Devon97 on February 20, 2007, 03:20:30 PM
But why do u HAVE to have AAS to get you MORE ripped and stronger? Why cant u just be ripped and stronger with OUT AAS?
> You are either too lazy to do it naturally
> OR YOu dont have enough knowledge about nutrition/strength training to do it

Which is it?

And you DONT compete or do PAID shoots, so why do u need to be MORE ripped and stronger?

Some people just don't have the genetics, bud

Devon97 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:35:30 PM »

Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
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Quote from: Devon97 on February 20, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
I love this excuse... and here is my reply:

1)If you dont have the genetics with out AAS, then you WONT EVEN WITH AAS!
If you have a poor physique as a natty then you will have a poor physique( just not as poor) while on AAS.

2)ANYONE and I mean ANYONE (disabled/diseases aside) can build a solid physique with a moderate level of muscle with a low Bodyfat if they incorporate solid nutrition, proper pre/post workout nutrition, sleep/recovery, supplementation and smart well planned weight training routine by a educated strength coach/trainer.

I agree with you to some extent... people can build solid physiques with the proper training/diet/etc protocol, TO A POINT, because of genetics, and that point might not be good enough for some people. I just want to know why its so wrong to use a responsible, moderate AAS cycle (whether the legal designers or from a doctors scrip) if someone knows what they are doing to surpass genetic limitations? What do you have against it? Does it effect you at all? If not, why should you be concerned if another responsible, educated adult decides what they wants to do with their body? Because the legality issue isnt an issue... and health-wise, it isn't an issue either in responsible usage... you can look at all the ironage bodybuilders as proof of this... so whats the deal with you?

jaejonna · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:35:59 PM »

25 if your talking about SPORTS that need agility, speed and endurance like Basketball, Football, and soccer (Futbol) However, for bodybuilding I think the age would be more like 29-32

Devon97 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:36:54 PM »

Quote from: jaejonna on February 23, 2007, 01:35:59 PM

25 if your talking about SPORTS that need agility, speed and endurance like Basketball, Football, and soccer (Futbol) However, for bodybuilding I think the age would be more like 29-32

We are talking about muscle growth and bbing potential.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:37:32 PM »

not even close, i'd say your PRIME in bb'ing and lifting is age 35-40.

swoody · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:38:14 PM »

Thank you for informing me yet again of your giant-like ignorance, Getbig Anti-Steroid Justice Friend! For JUSTICE!!!!

I already told you I should have waited... so thank you for saving the world and spreading good-deeds like an anti-steroid santa clause

jaejonna · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:36:54 PM

We are talking about muscle growth and bbing potential.

I know, and I said that 25 (the age you posted) is the age for the greatest potential in the sports. Not Bodybuilding. What squadfather said is more in line with what I have posted in regards to BB/weightlifting.

Devon97 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:40:01 PM »

I am 25, have a bachelors in sports medicine and am a personal trainer, been lifting heavy since I was 16 and researching the hell out of everything since I was 18, and have done 2 cycles (legally), keeping all of my gains, and my liver/kidney/blood pressure/testosterone/etc levels are much healthier than 99.99 percent of this country. You? And have you ever TRIED gear?

I love the "Researched the hell out of everything since I was 18" LOL and this kid thinks he is an authority figure in the AAS game.LOL

jaejonna · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:41:53 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:40:01 PM

I am 25, have a bachelors in sports medicine and am a personal trainer, been lifting heavy since I was 16 and researching the hell out of everything since I was 18, and have done 2 cycles (legally), keeping all of my gains, and my liver/kidney/blood pressure/testosterone/etc levels are much healthier than 99.99 percent of this country. You? And have you ever TRIED gear?

I love the "Researched the hell out of everything since I was 18" LOL and this kid thinks he is an authority figure in the AAS game.LOL

Lets have a look at this genious/monster of the Iron

swoody · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:42:28 PM »

Saving the world from steroids one person at a time... For Justice!!!! Hahahahaha

swoody · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:43:37 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:40:01 PM

I am 25, have a bachelors in sports medicine and am a personal trainer, been lifting heavy since I was 16 and researching the hell out of everything since I was 18, and have done 2 cycles (legally), keeping all of my gains, and my liver/kidney/blood pressure/testosterone/etc levels are much healthier than 99.99 percent of this country. You? And have you ever TRIED gear?

I love the "Researched the hell out of everything since I was 18" LOL and this kid thinks he is an authority figure in the AAS game.LOL

I never EVER said I was an authority on steroids, dipshit

I was just stating the obvious...

The Squadfather · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:44:19 PM »

in all honesty i could give a shit less if someone wants to juice and it would be hypocritical of me because i've done it myself but to say that you've reached your genetic potential at 25 is a joke.

Devon97 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:44:43 PM »

Quote from: swoody on February 23, 2007, 01:43:37 PM

I never EVER said I was an authority on steroids, dipshit I was just stating the obvious...

Its obvious that you are healthier then 99% of this country?

kicker · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:44:56 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on February 23, 2007, 01:37:32 PM

not even close, i'd say your PRIME in bb'ing and lifting is age 35-40.

Bingo...Ronnie, Dorian, etc. started winning the Olympia contests during that age range.

swoody · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:47:38 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:44:43 PM

Its obvious that you are healthier then 99% of this country?

I am healthier than most of this obese country... and no, that's not want I meant... I said it was obvious that you don't know SHIT about steroids, since you are so insanely against anyone using them.... Once again, I said I should have waited... but I did not get ANY steroid related "health concerns" that you keep rambling about.... FOR JUSTICE!!!

jaejonna · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:51:27 PM »

Quote from: kicker on February 23, 2007, 01:44:56 PM

Bingo...Ronnie, Dorian, etc. started winning the Olympia contests during that age range.

Imagine if Arnold foolishly remained in bodybuilding till say 1982 ? He would be huge, but then again the term "I'll Be Backkkk" wouldnt have the same effect $:-\$

Devon97 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:54:57 PM »

Quote from: swoody on February 23, 2007, 01:47:38 PM

I am healthier than most of this obese country... and no, that's not want I meant... I said it was obvious that you don't know SHIT about steroids, since you are so insanely against anyone using them.... Once again, I said I should have waited... but I did not get ANY steroid related "health concerns" that you keep rambling about.... FOR JUSTICE!!!

Please show me ONE time where I said I was against ANYONE using AAS!

Never said that, in fact I would not oppose someone using them for a comp, paid shoot or for their profession.

I do think its foolish for someone to use AAS for recreational purposes. ALL RISK no reward.

swoody · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:55:28 PM »

Quote from: jaejonna on February 23, 2007, 01:51:27 PM

Imagine if Arnold foolishly remained in bodybuilding till say 1982 ? He would be huge, but then again the term "I'll Be Backkkk" wouldnt have the same effect $:-\$

That is my point... people that ABUSE steroids will get some health concerns... but these anti-steroid morons have the mentality that if anyone even TOUCHES the stuff, they are doomed....

Devon97 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:58:21 PM »

Quote from: swoody on February 23, 2007, 01:55:28 PM

That is my point... people that ABUSE steroids will get some health concerns... but these anti-steroid morons have the mentality that if anyone even TOUCHES the stuff, they are doomed....

Once again I never said anything about being doomed or dieing from use.

I said health risks... such as gyno ( 1k-3k to fix) Hairloss ( possibly permanent) High blood pressure (Dangerous if you have a pre-existing heart issue)

swoody · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:54:57 PM

Please show me ONE time where I said I was against ANYONE using AAS!

Never said that, in fact I would not oppose someone using them for a comp, paid shoot or for their profession.

I do think its foolish for someone to use AAS for recreational purposes. ALL RISK no reward.

Wrong again, justice friend

The people who use them for competitions are the people who are running the serious risks with the massive amouts that they use and the abuse they put on their bodies to make a buck... you have it backwards. But thats ok... its for Justice!!!

swoody · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:02:25 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on February 23, 2007, 01:58:21 PM

Once again I never said anything about being doomed or dieing from use.

I said health risks... such as gyno ( 1k-3k to fix) Hairloss ( possibly permanent) High blood pressure (Dangerous if you have a pre-existing heart issue)

I have not gotten gyno, do not have thinning hair and my blood pressure is fine... what about the pro BBers you say it is ok for? Do you think that they are healthier than the occaisional user? It is LONG TERM heavy use that gives the problems, justice leaguer

Devon97 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:03:09 PM »

Quote from: swoody on February 23, 2007, 02:01:05 PM

Wrong again, justice friend The people who use them for competitions are the people who are running the serious risks with the massive amouts that they use and the abuse they put on their bodies to make a buck... you have it backwards. But thats ok... its for Justice!!!

Oh and u take AAS to help get new clients LOL ok "Swoody" nice logic bro

swoody · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:04:30 PM »

Yup... I sure have put my body through alot of abuse with my whole 2 cycles... FOR JUSTICE!!!

Devon97 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:06:17 PM »

Quote from: swoody on February 23, 2007, 02:04:30 PM

Yup... I sure have put my body through alot of abuse with my whole 2 cycles... FOR JUSTICE!!!

So your saying you made the right choice?

YOu and I BOTH know they werent your last!

swoody · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:00:21 PM »

Your a slow one arent you? Once again... I said I SHOULD HAVE WAITED... but I did NOT get any of these health concerns and side effects that you keep rambling about, because I was responsible when I DID use them and took all the necessary precausions... should I have waited? Yes. For the millionth time, get that through your thick skull. but are steroids dangerous or cause all the problems you are talking about if used responsibly by the occasional user? NO. Only when you wanna turn pro and pump massive amounts of anabolics through your system to try and play the mass game that is so appealing to judges these days do you run into trouble. Its called abuse. So once again, you have it backwards.

Thanks for the concern Devon... You truely are an inspiration to us all...