The ignorance of many who lift weights.

[G o a t b o y]

Do you honestly come to these boards to compare your "wit" and intelligence to those posting here?

Does that feed your ego? Are you so empty that you feel the need to clash with, chastize and "educate" the internet trolling musclehead masses?

If you had a grand intelligence, or bodybuilding record to match you self inflated ego, you would be old, rich, and respected here like those with the names like Arnold, Zane, Columbu, and even Nubret.

But alas...you are a fat old bitter nobody who has some need to clash with those having a good time here....hell, even Lee Priest gets respect here (mostly).

You will never have the respect you so dearly want from these groups, and rightly so. You are a nobody. Stop talking down to anybody here and go back to taking pictures of flowers on beaches. You will not be remembered or missed. (probably the story of your life).


-and oh yeah...your a self owning, meltdown homo daisy...and all that other standard getbig  crap

The fact that Vince assumes everyone posting on Getbig is a teenaged musclehead dullard, coupled with his pathological need to constantly point it out to make him feel better about himself, shows he's really not all that intelligent himself.  To those who really are ahead of the pack from an IQ-point and formal education standpoint, he's an amusing headcase at best.

[Dballn247]

I think it is fairly evident that Vince is playing for the pink team.  He is merely trolling the board for some cock.  He's trying to bait someone into pm's so he can make his  moves in private.

[Vince B]

Goatboy, I obviously annoy you otherwise you wouldn't have the need for a retort. A pity you are unable to be witty when you are defending yourself. I suppose you are representative of many who come here for a laugh. Mediocrity on Getbig is just about perfection.

[Vince B]

Most threads end up as avenues for anonymous people to unload on others. Catharsis for everyone.

I am willing to debate hypertrophy with anyone. However, don't bother if you don't have any original ideas. What I see in the gym is that most guys are not growing. I find it very sad that so many young guys are staying lean and never growing much at all. I guess they are too brainwashed and therefore eat 'healthy', take supplements, and train with 'intensity'. How come they are not growing?

In the old days we read Ironman and Muscle Builder and perhaps Strength and Health. Not much information available in those days. If someone who won contests told us how to grow we would have been grateful. Today just about everyone believes he knows how to train to grow. The results suggest otherwise. I so dislike all the falsehoods believed by so many who lift weights. It is like an epidemic. The sad fact is that most people here on Getbig also believe way too many falsehoods re training and getting big. When people try to wake others up we are labelled lunatics and called names.

I always considered that to be a man one had to stand up for what he believed in. Today I insist that my beliefs should be considered and hopefully be the truth. Most guys here don't have the balls to post under their own names. Is it any wonder that so many shit on others here.

[G o a t b o y]

Most threads end up as avenues for anonymous people to unload on others. Catharsis for everyone.

I am willing to debate hypertrophy with anyone. However, don't bother if you don't have any original ideas. What I see in the gym is that most guys are not growing. I find it very sad that so many young guys are staying lean and never growing much at all. I guess they are too brainwashed and therefore eat 'healthy', take supplements, and train with 'intensity'. How come they are not growing?

In the old days we read Ironman and Muscle Builder and perhaps Strength and Health. Not much information available in those days. If someone who won contests told us how to grow we would have been grateful. Today just about everyone believes he knows how to train to grow. The results suggest otherwise. I so dislike all the falsehoods believed by so many who lift weights. It is like an epidemic. The sad fact is that most people here on Getbig also believe way too many falsehoods re training and getting big. When people try to wake others up we are labelled lunatics and called names.

I always considered that to be a man one had to stand up for what he believed in. Today I insist that my beliefs should be considered and hopefully be the truth. Most guys here don't have the balls to post under their own names. Is it any wonder that so many shit on others here.

Vince follows the "Adonis Principles". 

[240 is Back]

Yeah...   I keep asking my wife why I can't seem to get a girlfriend. 

when you figure it out, please pass the recipe my way!

[Vince B]

Adonis is probably a disciple of mine but just doesn't know it yet. At least he has ideas and speaks out.

To Goatboy and 240. 50% of married people have affairs. That means that 50% of us are either playing up or don't have a clue that our partner is! Thank goodness I am no longer married. 30 years was enough for me and way too many for my ex!

[Fletch]

Do you honestly come to these boards to compare your "wit" and intelligence to those posting here?

Does that feed your ego? Are you so empty that you feel the need to clash with, chastize and "educate" the internet trolling musclehead masses?

If you had a grand intelligence, or bodybuilding record to match you self inflated ego, you would be old, rich, and respected here like those with the names like Arnold, Zane, Columbu, and even Nubret.

But alas...you are a fat old bitter nobody who has some need to clash with those having a good time here....hell, even Lee Priest gets respect here (mostly).

You will never have the respect you so dearly want from these groups, and rightly so. You are a nobody. Stop talking down to anybody here and go back to taking pictures of flowers on beaches. You will not be remembered or missed. (probably the story of your life).


-and oh yeah...your a self owning, meltdown homo daisy...and all that other standard getbig  crap

I repeat vince. Stop trying to talk down to people here. You are not above and never were above any other gym rat. You are not a part of bodybuildings "elite" braintrust. Nobody here is begging for your advice, (especially after seeing your pictures)

Stop coming here and making a big effort to point out that others come here to talk shit. You are whining like a spoiled child . Go away if you dont like it here....and again you will not be missed.

If those of us here want to talk shit and bash each other and have a laugh, we will do so with or without your bitter old man input.

[willie mosconi]

this basile guy is really annoying

he is way too self-righteous

[pumpster]

I repeat vince. Stop trying to talk down to people here. You are not above and never were above any other gym rat. You are not a part of bodybuildings "elite" braintrust. Nobody here is begging for your advice, (especially after seeing your pictures)

Umm..exactly who is part of the "elite" braintrust?

[EL Mariachi]

what i dont understand vince, you seem to know a lot about bodybuilding and lifting weights, yet you have a big ass belly, and saggy tits, by the way this is you

[pumpster]

what i dont understand vince, you seem to know a lot about bodybuilding and lifting weights, yet you have a big ass belly, and saggy tits, by the way this is you

This is always funny, as if this doesn't apply to others with age. LOL

[Vince B]

This site is a great place for reality checks. I wonder who does that for guys like Fletch?

[Fletch]

Hahahaa...classic..."reality check" coming from a bitter old fart who meltsdown and gets upset on a musclehead web board!

Is this the best example of your superstar intellect and "wit" at work Vince?

I come here and have a laugh, as does most everybody here. You are the only fool taking it seriously and blowing gaskets. Better give yourself a "reality check". My reality is solid vince. yours is as delusional as your self image of being somebody anyone should listen to.

But really...we are all on the edge of our seats for your next meltdown, so please...give me a "reality check"...please be sure to insert "in my day" and pictures of your fat soft arms as much as possible.



 

[Vince B]

Hey, Fletch, I guess my sense of humour escapes you? That is typical of most discussion boards. I hardly blow any gaskets here and take the crap as well as anyone. I challenge Arnold, Zane and the others to post here. They are my contemporaries. They have done little for bodybuilding or gyms since retiring. I still co-own a gym and actually make much of my own gym equipment.

Sure a lot of the posts here are amusing. Yours are not, Fletch.

[xpac2]

Hey, Fletch, I guess my sense of humour escapes you? That is typical of most discussion boards. I hardly blow any gaskets here and take the crap as well as anyone. I challenge Arnold, Zane and the others to post here. They are my contemporaries. They have done little for bodybuilding or gyms since retiring. I still co-own a gym and actually make much of my own gym equipment.

Sure a lot of the posts here are amusing. Yours are not, Fletch.

You consistently embarrass yourself. Even the ironage guys think you are a joke.

Get a life.

Hope this helps.

Signed, Your long lost friend,
                                 Your Mind

[Ted Maul]

Hey, Fletch, I guess my sense of humour escapes you? That is typical of most discussion boards. I hardly blow any gaskets here and take the crap as well as anyone. I challenge Arnold, Zane and the others to post here. They are my contemporaries. They have done little for bodybuilding or gyms since retiring. I still co-own a gym and actually make much of my own gym equipment.

Sure a lot of the posts here are amusing. Yours are not, Fletch.

Gayer than France

[Fletch]

Hey, Fletch, I guess my sense of humour escapes you? That is typical of most discussion boards. I hardly blow any gaskets here and take the crap as well as anyone. I challenge Arnold, Zane and the others to post here. --theyre busy with real lives, not showing pix of their fat arms on the web. --They are my contemporaries. They have done little for bodybuilding or gyms since retiring. --Ever hear of the arnold classic itdiot? How about that arnold was co-owner of world gym? No...How about Zanes private training center? Or maybe the contests that Columbu put on in Europe, and that he has worked on (as a chiro-) numerous contemporary pros?--   I still co-own a gym and actually make much of my own gym equipment. BFD - you think that makes you the same as the legends you named before?

Sure a lot of the posts here are amusing. Yours are not, Fletch. 

Simply calling your bluff old fool. The only one not laughing is you.

[onlyme]

This is always funny, as if this doesn't apply to others with age. LOL

pump, EVERY guy who talks about former BB's who look like shit now or completely different than when they were younger are ALL under 30 years old.  They are little kids.  Kids who have no idea about age and what will happen to them.  They talk out of their asses as if they know something or they are better and age won't affect them.  They have no idea about life or what happens.  It is amusing everytime someone posts or talks about a former BB that doesn't look good anymore 20, 30 or even 40 years after the fact.  Pure stupidity.  But, hey they will find out the hard way if they even live that long.

[Frauhorn]

By the time I got to the beach it was a bit overcast. In Sydney there are over 20 beaches to go to. All are better than anything you can find in North America north of LA.   I did take a few photos of Dee Why and Curl Curl beaches.

I ended up in a rose garden and took heaps of amazing photos just after it rained.  Perfect conditions for capturing the saturation and colour of those beautiful flowers.

Dee Why Beach

Vince,
please tell me which exercise builds chest if it isn't bench press, i'm open to ideas thanks.

also, of course most people at the gym are ignorant compared to you and other serious body builders, just like most people doing the bay run know very little compared to serious marathon runners. most people at night clubs don't really know how to dance either. they are just having a crack, let them be.

btw, why would you go to dee why? the one beach on the northern beaches that is always covered in seaweed 

[Vince B]

Dee Why is easy to find parking at. I merely wanted to take some photos. I have a project going where I am trying to photograph all the beaches in Sydney. I prefer to take images when the beaches are busy with lots of people. I seldom swim at Dee Why. I prefer Freshwater and Bondi as I bodysurf. The best girls are at Bondi and Coogee.

Most guys in gyms get some results and then stop far short of being impressive. They labour on for years looking the same. Seems to me if they knew how to grow they would be much larger. My conclusion is that they do not know how to get any bigger. End of story.

Some people get a good result from bench presses. As Arthur Jones and Ray Mentzer pointed out the bench press doesn't fully work the chest muscles. You can demonstrate that by doing that movement then taking one arm and bring it across your chest. People have believed lots of silly or partially true things about exercises. Eg., lat machine for lats. That movement works almost the whole upper body. Bodybuilders still do way too many exercises and not enough sets with the maximum resistance.

[Mr. Intenseone]

One day I would like to dump all weights, dumbbells and barbells into the Pacific Ocean so that they can do some good and build up reefs or something.

I swear I am sick of the total ignorance I see on a daily basis from bodybuilders and wannabe trainees. The ignorance is overwhelming. It is so sad to see everyone copying what others are doing and almost no one getting much in the way of results. That is okay because most believe steroids are needed to get really big.

There they are banging away in the free weight room. The clanging of the dumbbells hides the emptiness inside the brains of those people. I see people using ropes for triceps and abdominals. They do bench presses for pecs. Few do full squats. Most make only meager results from all that effort. It clearly is a form of postering that many do but gain little for all that work.

Can it be that whole populations of trainees are uninformed? Well, they are all following some theory or other. Whatever it is those principles are adhered to like a religion. If you try to talk to any of these knuckleheads they remain impenetrable because they totally believe they know what they are doing. Their results suggest otherwise.

I really am ashamed of this sport called bodybuilding. I am ashamed of associating with so many ignorant people with bizarre beliefs and habits. All that work and what for?

This really is a sad pastime. Look at the boobs of female bodybuilders? Does any man actually fancy that bizarre look? Then male bodybuilders end up with tits that rival what the gals have. It makes no difference if you have certificates or not because the ignorance is universal.

One would hope that in this century we could abandon the unprofitable ways of the past. Is this what we find? Nope. There is just as much ignorance today than before. Protein sales are up. Supplement companies make profits. Home gym equipment stores are doing fine. Yet so many believe absolutely untenable things about training. I wonder why the false ideas and theories persist? Why do we still see ab machines advertised on TV to give people abdominals? That is preposterous and downright false.

Is it really that difficult to know something about muscles and how to affect changes in them? My conclusion is that the web of knowledge that is bodybuilding gets transferred from individual to individual and little in the way of critical examination is ever made to check what is being believed. Thus, we perpetuate the same old nonsense and it spreads like a disease. Those who do know something about hypertrophy must wonder if this knuckleheadedness is permanent in our culture.

I so dislike the bigotry that is written by bodybuilders and on line wannabes about fat people. Instead of tolerating and understanding others we often read rather pathetic attacks about others. Every bodybuilder makes a journey from ordinariness and I should hope that no one forgets the transformation. The journey is usually a long and arduous one. Respect of all individuals is what informed bodybuilders should practice.

Thank goodness we have a separate room for free weights at our gym. We just installed a big boxing room. No doubt a lot of those guys will be pounding on those punching bags. The din from that free weight room is actually painful for me to hear. I try to stay out of that room and go there mainly to access our maintenance room. I do some full squats from time to time but a Smith Machine is just as good. I made one with an incline so the movement is similar to free weight squatting. Come to think about it I seldom see bodybuilders squatting and they seldom do full squats. The lack of doing full squats must explain why so many have chicken legs.

I agree with everything.......exept one thing,








BODYBUILDING IS NOT A SPORT!!

[Vince B]

Some call chess a sport. If so, then bodybuilding is a sport. At least competing is. The training is definitely a sport. Posing is surely a sport.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Some call chess a sport. If so, then bodybuilding is a sport. At least competing is. The training is definitely a sport. Posing is surely a sport.

No it isn't......there's no skill involved, exept for the posing and that even sucks nowadays!

[Vince B]

Hey, Fletch, this is for you. This is one of my hobbies. Hope you enjoy the photo. No, I am not gay.