The ignorance of many who lift weights.

[Sir William Idol]

vince do you realize that arnold actually did the most for bodybuilding after he retired?  during his olympia reign many people had no fucking clue who he was or cared.  it was the movies he made that showcased his physique (after he retired) that created the largest surge in bodybuilding among young males, ever.  there no way anyone can refute that--people started really lifting weights in the 80s because of arnold and the domino effect he created with other action stars such as stallone.  and we could get into his presidents council of physical fitness, but you in australia probably have no clue what that is.


its funny you mention yourself in the same sentence as him while at the same time berating him for a lack of promotion, just how have you helped the sport?  i think people who come on here and see your pics might just give up entirely if they see what years in a gym might only leave them with.

[Vince B]

The debate about whether bodybuilding is a sport depends on how you define 'sport'. I don't see the big deal about including bodybuilding as a sport. Some people do and some don't. Some people call motor racing a sport. And so it goes. Depends on who you are talking to and what he biases are.

Reminds me of the origin of the word 'football'. Most people don't know why so many sports are called football. Well, it appears that sports were usually played by gentlemen on horseback. When some played a game on foot they called it 'football'. It had nothing to do with soccer although many believe that is the true football. Here in Australia we have 5 codes called football. Rugby League, Rugby Union, Soccer, Aussie Rules, and Gridiron. The latter is not played professionally here.

[Mr. Intenseone]

The debate about whether bodybuilding is a sport depends on how you define 'sport'. I don't see the big deal about including bodybuilding as a sport. Some people do and some don't. Some people call motor racing a sport. And so it goes. Depends on who you are talking to and what he biases are.

Reminds me of the origin of the word 'football'. Most people don't know why so many sports are called football. Well, it appears that sports were usually played by gentlemen on horseback. When some played a game on foot they called it 'football'. It had nothing to do with soccer although many believe that is the true football. Here in Australia we have 5 codes called football. Rugby League, Rugby Union, Soccer, Aussie Rules, and Gridiron. The latter is not played professionally here.

Do you think bodybuilders are athletes, if so, why?

[Vince B]

Sir Idol, how little you know. Just another Arnold fan, it seems. Arnold is one of the most self-serving people who ever lived. Bodybuilding became more popular after 'Pumping Iron' but he was just a guy in the movie. He did bugger all. He never opened a gym, built or designed any equipment and was a crap judge at the Mr Australia in 1975. Don't attribute to him stuff he did nothing for. He did everything for himself.

He was appointed, for political reasons, to that Council for Physical Fitness. I heard him give a speech at the IHRSA conference in 1991. He thanked them for giving him his latest trophy. What an ass.

Spell out what he has done for bodybuilding except run a show for steroid users each year and does no testing. Seems to me he could do much more. Like, why doesn't he do something about the nonsense of having steroids on the banned list? Why doesn't he support more research into muscles and bodybuilding so that people don't have to take drugs? There is a lot he can do. I am not saying he has done nothing but he could have done heaps more.

[Vince B]

If bodybuilding is a sport does that mean bodybuilders are athletes? Some are and most are not. However, I doubt many athletes could follow a bodybuilder through a workout. That goes for powerlifters and weight lifters. Modern bodybuilders do way more cardio than previously and therefore might be considered more fit.

One doesn't have to be an athlete to win Mr Olympia but he has to train his ass off lifting very heavy weights. There has always been a bias against bodybuilders in universities and this argument is part of that bias.

I recall that bodybuilders were called fig-leafers and mirror athletes at UBC in Vancouver. One year I ran a Strongest Man On Campus contest and you had to do a pinch grip to enter then we had curl, bench, dead and squat lifts. After I broke the university record in the deadlift I got some respect from the football heroes who used to laugh at us. They stopped that teasing after that.

[xpac2]

No, I am not gay.

Then you must be a helluva actor

[Vince B]

Even is one is gay what does that matter? Beats me why that is a putdown on line. Must be a lot of very low self-esteem individuals around here. Nothing much has changed because gyms are filled with the same sort of guys.

Imagine being anonymous and rather ordinary to boot.

[pumpster]

vince do you realize that arnold actually did the most for bodybuilding after he retired?  during his olympia reign many people had no fucking clue who he was or cared.  it was the movies he made that showcased his physique (after he retired) that created the largest surge in bodybuilding among young males, ever.  there no way anyone can refute that--people started really lifting weights in the 80s because of arnold and the domino effect he created with other action stars such as stallone.  and we could get into his presidents council of physical fitness, but you in australia probably have no clue what that is.


its funny you mention yourself in the same sentence as him while at the same time berating him for a lack of promotion, just how have you helped the sport?  i think people who come on here and see your pics might just give up entirely if they see what years in a gym might only leave them with.

One-dimensional; he played a big role but the fitness and health booms were already spreading from California to New York followed by the rest of the country before the movie came out. Athletes were already weight training and looking bigger at the same time.

Self-serving for sure; in person pretty can be obnoxious unless there are cameras or press around. Ask those 15 or more women.

[Sir William Idol]

all bodybuilders are self serving.  i cant believe you feel opening a gym in australia with pink upholstery is a more worthy accomplishment than what arnold's done.  yeah he was in movies for himself but it was his work ethic and determination that created his physique, which became the envy of all people when he displayed it in movies.  his motivation isnt the issue, its the result of his actions thats important.

[Vince B]

Arnold wanted to be rich and famous. He achieved both way beyond what any of us would have granted was possible. If he cared about bodybuilding he could do heaps more while in his position. What has he done as governor? Well, it seems he is almost distancing himself from his own contest and bodybuilding in general. I doubt lifting the arm of Betty Weider is doing much for bodybuilding. Arnold does most things for his own agenda. He has always been like that. He even wrote that what he does is befriend anyone who can help his career and discard anyone who cannot. Seems to have worked just fine for him. Save the plaudits for those who deserve it. Arnold doesn't have much time for the old gang.

[Triple-H_2005]

The typical Getbigger is no more impressive than hamburger.

Well here in the States, we make our hamburger out of beef, not kangaroo...so some of our hamburgers are quite impressive.

I, for instance, love the Angus burgers from Hardees...especially on the Sour Bread bun..  YUM YUM!!!!

I only hope that I can be as impressive as this glorious slab of dead cow.

[Triple-H_2005]

The flotsom are none of those.
 

Floatsam.

With an "a".

If you're gonna insult folks, you should be certian that your own drivel is beyond reproach.

[Vince B]

Gosh, I hate making spelling mistakes. Especially when poking fun at bodybuilders.

Seems to me I am easy on most of the flotsam compared to what they say to or about me. We are both wrong. It is 'flotsam'.

[Sir William Idol]

Arnold wanted to be rich and famous. He achieved both way beyond what any of us would have granted was possible. If he cared about bodybuilding he could do heaps more while in his position. What has he done as governor? Well, it seems he is almost distancing himself from his own contest and bodybuilding in general. I doubt lifting the arm of Betty Weider is doing much for bodybuilding. Arnold does most things for his own agenda. He has always been like that. He even wrote that what he does is befriend anyone who can help his career and discard anyone who cannot. Seems to have worked just fine for him. Save the plaudits for those who deserve it. Arnold doesn't have much time for the old gang.

blah blah blah blah, arnold has done more for bodybuilding than anyone.

[Vince B]

Idol, you really are a dreamer re Arnold.

[Sir William Idol]

arnold isnt responsible for holding the hand of the bodybuilding industry well into his 50s and 60s, hes done quite enough.  he's moved on, as any professional athlete does.  its not his job to tirelessly champion the cause especially after bodybuilding has gone off the deep end with drug use, and the whole foundation of the sport is highly taboo and illegal now.  hes a fuckin governor and he does as much as he can.  name me one other bodybuilder than has done more than arnold for the sport, and i'll tear your argument apart.

[onlyme]

Vince is the TA of Leasure World.

No way in the world can Vince afford to live at Leisure World.  He currently lives in Sleisure World.  Nice digs though.  The community phone is bad though.

[the shadow]

No way in the world can Vince afford to live at Leisure World.  He currently lives in Sleisure World.  Nice digs though.  The community phone is bad though.

fuck off pigfaced freak

[Vince B]

At least Keith knows that the other Vince is a nobody. That son-of-a-whatever promised to stop using that name. Now everyone thinks it is Goodrum when they see 'Vince'. Maybe I should challenge Goodrum to a duel using the old code? Whoever loses naturally won't be able to use that name anymore.

[kawaks]

This is a bodybuilding site for goodness sake. How many of you guys aspire to actually win a title? Well, the wanking taking place here surely is no substitute for serious training.

At least I get amused by the wannabe winners of Getbig when I need a good diversion. Now, where is that bona fide expert, Goodrum? He is the epitome of Getbiggers. In one individual resides the collective wisdom and personality of those who lift weights.

Hulllo!!!!!!!!! Ah, keeping in shape is "winning".

You do what you do, likewise me, and we'll see who is fit and health at 60 years young.

[Quickerblade]

Hulllo!!!!!!!!! Ah, keeping in shape is "winning".

You do what you do, likewise me, and we'll see who is fit and health at 60 years young.

are you indian man?? you come off as one

[bmacsys]

Most make only meager results from all that effort.

You would fall under this category Vince even in your Mr. Canada days. Frank Zane and Arnold even told you so!

[bmacsys]

you still didnt explain why, if everyone here is so juvenile and stupid, why do you even post, defending things and arguing with people?  seems like the more mature person would post in red letters and not even reply to the "infantile" behavior.  

Basile had a war with Goodrum and it ended in draw. That tells you all you need to know about Basile's so called intelligence..

[bmacsys]

.  Perfect conditions for capturing the saturation and colour of those beautiful flowers.

Dee Why Beach

Vince, you are a fruit aren't you?

[bmacsys]

This is always funny, as if this doesn't apply to others with age. LOL

Pumpster, you post this fucking picture every week! For a guy who is not an Arnold "guy" you know every obscure fact about him and constantly inject him into threads that have nothing to do with him?