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« on: February 25, 2007, 12:45:12 PM »
Did anybody hear that Ichiro plans to play out his option and sign with the Sox in 2008?
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Re: Red Sox fans
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2007, 01:00:15 PM »
Did anybody hear that Ichiro plans to play out his option and sign with the Sox in 2008?


Yes, Matsuzaka and Ichiro became close at the world baseball classic.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2007, 02:04:14 PM »

Yes, Matsuzaka and Ichiro became close at the world baseball classic.

Ichiro would look good in pinstripes!
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2007, 02:17:40 PM »
Ichiro would look good in pinstripes!

Maybe he will be in them. Ichiro has said he wants to play for Boston, and has become good friends with Matsuzaka. Only time will tell I guess. Right now everything is pure speculation.

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2007, 02:35:03 PM »
Maybe he will be in them. Ichiro has said he wants to play for Boston, and has become good friends with Matsuzaka. Only time will tell I guess. Right now everything is pure speculation.

Yup. One can only dream of a guy hitting lead off who got 260 plus hits one season. Great speed, great arm.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2007, 02:38:20 PM »
Yup. One can only dream of a guy hitting lead off who got 260 plus hits one season. Great speed, great arm.


Agree 100 percent. Awesome player. I guess he has a little power also. People who watch him at bp comment on the loud crack they hear when he hits the ball. Which is not out of the ordinary for a big power hitter, but surprising for Ichiro, due to his relatively small size. I guess he is deceivingly powerful for his size.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2007, 02:39:26 PM »
There are 4-5 great outfielders who will be free agents next year.

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2007, 02:41:34 PM »
There are 4-5 great outfielders who will be free agents next year.

Andrew Jones being one of them. On another note, I cannot wait to see how much cash Santana commands.

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2007, 02:53:04 PM »
Andrew Jones being one of them. On another note, I cannot wait to see how much cash Santana commands.

Johan Santana. Love to have him anchoring my starting rotation.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2007, 02:59:55 PM »
Johan Santana. Love to have him anchoring my starting rotation.

As well as the rest of the leauge!

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2007, 04:13:41 PM »
As well as the rest of the leauge!

hahahaha, you can keep dreaming. No one's going to throw the kind of money at him the Yankees will.  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2007, 04:36:01 PM »
hahahaha, you can keep dreaming. No one's going to throw the kind of money at him the Yankees will.  ;D

I am a Yankee fan. I grew up and live a stones throw from the Stadium.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2007, 08:29:16 PM »
I am a Yankee fan. I grew up and live a stones throw from the Stadium.

Pretty sure I was talking to Body88 there, bright spot. I'm a Yankees fan too.

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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2007, 05:13:59 AM »
Pretty sure I was talking to Body88 there, bright spot. I'm a Yankees fan too.

I think the Yankees will be better this year. Getting rid of Randy Johnson will help. Lower overall expectations will help. If that moron Carl Pavano ever gets healthy and grabs a brain that will be a big boost.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2007, 07:00:20 AM »
Johan Santana. Love to have him anchoring my starting rotation.

If the Twins don't re-sign him, I think there's a great chance for this.  Cashman's been stockpiling major league ready arms for a reason, and may look to blow the Twins away with an offer after this season.

If Johan hits the FA market, who is going to spend more than the Mets, Yankees or Red Sox?
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2007, 07:02:00 AM »
Did anybody hear that Ichiro plans to play out his option and sign with the Sox in 2008?

WHere does he play?  They have Drew and Manny on the corners for '08.  CF?  I doubt they would block Ellsbury's path.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2007, 07:05:54 AM »
I think the Yankees will be better this year. Getting rid of Randy Johnson will help. Lower overall expectations will help. If that moron Carl Pavano ever gets healthy and grabs a brain that will be a big boost.

They're going to be much better.

For the OF, they've basically upgraded to a full year of Abreu and Matsui vs. Melky and Bernie.
They've added Andy Pettitte over RJ, and will replace Wright/Ponson/etc. with Pavano/Igawa/Hughes/Sanchez/Clemens?.....

They've also cut enough payroll and increased their farm system from a mid-20s ranking to the top 5.  This will help them acquire whatever they need come July.  Cashman's in charge now, and it's all starting to show.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2007, 07:28:15 AM »
WHere does he play?  They have Drew and Manny on the corners for '08.  CF?  I doubt they would block Ellsbury's path.

Trade coco, move jd to center, ichiro to right. They would make room for him. Coco played most of last year with a hand injury.

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2007, 07:39:51 AM »
They're going to be much better.

For the OF, they've basically upgraded to a full year of Abreu and Matsui vs. Melky and Bernie.
They've added Andy Pettitte over RJ, and will replace Wright/Ponson/etc. with Pavano/Igawa/Hughes/Sanchez/Clemens?.....

They've also cut enough payroll and increased their farm system from a mid-20s ranking to the top 5.  This will help them acquire whatever they need come July.  Cashman's in charge now, and it's all starting to show.


Farm system rankings  (BA.com)


1. Arizona Diamondbacks 13 13 21 23 29
Signing Justin Upton is the icing on the cake for minor's most loaded system.

2. Los Angeles Dodgers 21425 28
Even without top 2005 draft pick Luke Hochevar, the Dodgers have depth and star power.

3. Florida Marlins 14 14 8 10 9
Postseason fire sale brought depth, top-tier talent to a system that already had some of both.

4. Los Angeles Angels 1 3 5 17 25
Elite infielders head impressive group of hitters; pitching hinges on ‘04 picks Weaver, Adenhart.

5. Milwaukee Brewers 3 1 16 26 30
Despite graduating young talent to Milwaukee, Brewers still have plenty left on the farm.

6. Minnesota Twins 4 5 4 6 15
Healthy return by Jason Kubel would provide boost to organization loaded with young pitching.

7. Atlanta Braves 5 4 2 7 5
Lowest ranking in years for Braves only comes after graduating 19 rookies to big league club.

8. Boston Red Sox 21 23 27 28 24
Improved pitching depth leads to quantum leap forward.

9. Cleveland Indians 7 6 1 20 26
Depth is the Tribe’s biggest strength, and Marte acquisition boosted team into top 10.

10. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 9 9 10 15 6
Former scouting director Tim Wilken left behind much-improved pitching depth.

11. Colorado Rockies 6 15 25 24 16
Fruits of three consecutive productive drafts starting to percolate up through the system.

12. Baltimore Orioles 25 19 30 29 27
A farm system on the way up could improve even more if Adam Loewen fulfills his potential.

13. Detroit Tigers 29 22 12 18 18
Biggest mover on the list thanks to pair of elite power arms, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya.

14. Chicago White Sox 12 20 15 9 1
Championship closer Bobby Jenks heads list with outfield depth to spare.

15. Chicago Cubs 10 7 3 1 2
Felix Pie takes up mantle as top prospect in a rapidly thinning organization.

16. Texas Rangers 16 16 19 8 13
Trio of Double-A pitchers, improved depth give new GM Jon Daniels pieces to deal.

17. New York Yankees 24 27 17 5 7
Premium talent on hand, but Yankees’ top prospects have yet to venture beyond A-ball.

18. San Francisco Giants 17 24 11 12 22
Bulk of top hitters reach make-or-break Double-A in ’06; Matt Cain gives team elite arm.

19. Pittsburgh Pirates 18 11 18 22 19
Last two first-round picks, Neil Walker and Andrew McCutchen, provide best hope for impact.

20. Houston Astros 22 29 23 3 10
Farmhands helped big league team to first pennant, yet minor league talent still improved.

21. St. Louis Cardinals 30 28 28 30 23
Early returns on their bountiful 2005 draft boost stock of previously moribund system.

22. Philadelphia Phillies 20 21 7 11 12
Jim Thome trade nets pair of lefties who can step in if top prospect Cole Hamels gets hurt again.

23. Kansas City Royals 28 19 26 21 14
No. 2 overall pick Alex Gordon, Billy Butler provide 1-2 punch for club in need of hope.

24. Washington Nationals 26 30 29 16 21
Scouting director Dana Brown has done well in tough circumstances to accumulate talent.

25. Toronto Blue Jays 15 8 6 13 17
System has some depth, particularly on the mound, but few players project as regulars.

26. Oakland Athletics 8 17 22 19 11
Talent inevitably eroded after A’s graduated four impact rookies to big leagues in 2005.

27. Seattle Mariners 11 12 9 2 4
Utter lack of pitching prospects has roots in run of poor drafts in late 1990s, early 2000s.

28. New York Mets 19 10 13 27 20
It’s Lastings Milledge, Mike Pelfrey and a lot of players who wouldn’t make other teams’ top 10s.

29. San Diego Padres 27 25 20 4 8
At least the best the Padres have to offer are close to helping the big league club . . .

30. Cincinnati Reds 23 26 24 14 3
While nearly all the Reds’ best hopes for the future are in A-ball or below.

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2007, 08:03:33 AM »
Body, when was that run?  Was it before or after the Sheff/RJ deals?

Here's BP which has them at #4:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5870&PHPSESSID=97091998ec033773bb263de366f269fe


Keith Law from Scouts inc. has them at 5.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2007, 08:04:05 AM »
Trade coco, move jd to center, ichiro to right. They would make room for him. Coco played most of last year with a hand injury.

Then what about Ellsbury?
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2007, 08:05:56 AM »
Body, when was that run?  Was it before or after the Sheff/RJ deals?

Here's BP which has them at #4:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5870&PHPSESSID=97091998ec033773bb263de366f269fe


Keith Law from Scouts inc. has them at 5.

Yup, their farm system is turning amazing now and they're going to be great for years to come.

They're still expected to score almost 1000 runs this year and if Pavano gets healthy and Clemens signs with them, hello World Series!!!

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2007, 08:19:39 AM »
Body, when was that run?  Was it before or after the Sheff/RJ deals?

Here's BP which has them at #4:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5870&PHPSESSID=97091998ec033773bb263de366f269fe


Keith Law from Scouts inc. has them at 5.


Although that is the most current listing at ba, it is pre sheff/ rj. The listings you posted are more up to date.

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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2007, 08:21:52 AM »
Then what about Ellsbury?

Good question.

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2007, 10:13:23 AM »
Yup, their farm system is turning amazing now and they're going to be great for years to come.

They're still expected to score almost 1000 runs this year and if Pavano gets healthy and Clemens signs with them, hello World Series!!!

Yes I would like Clemens, but I don't feel he's a necessity.  Read all you can on Phil Hughes.
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