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Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« on: February 28, 2007, 11:32:03 AM »
I trained Thighs today.....I drank the combo for the first time a few minutes ago.

I use Whey Fuel for my protein source (3 scoops).

I use Ultra Fuel for my carb source (3 scoops).

I will let you guys know how it works over the next few weeks. I may go up to 100 grams of carbs soon.


Honestly...I have been just eating whole foods after a workout. So Im expecting much better results with this combo.

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 12:33:38 PM »
I think 75 grams of protein at once is WAY OVERKILL!  You simply can't assimilate that much at once.  Waste of money in my opinion.

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 12:38:58 PM »
I think 75 grams of protein at once is WAY OVERKILL!  You simply can't assimilate that much at once.  Waste of money in my opinion.

Agreed.

I could understand 25-40grams of protein & 75-100 grams of carbs.

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 02:36:35 PM »
i would lower the protein to 50 n bump the carbs to 100.

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 03:26:53 PM »
i would lower the protein to 50 n bump the carbs to 100.

agreed

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2007, 04:44:25 PM »
i drink a teaspoon of creatine with 16 oz. of grape juice and 3 scoops of MRM's BCAA plus Glutamine and then eat my chicken and rice 15 minutes after that.

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 01:18:10 PM »
i drink a teaspoon of creatine with 16 oz. of grape juice and 3 scoops of MRM's BCAA plus Glutamine and then eat my chicken and rice 15 minutes after that.

That is a good strategy for quick and efficient assimilation. Simple carbs to shotgun the creatine and aminos and to kickstart anabolism. Then comes the whole foods. Peace, G

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 04:05:58 AM »
i drink a teaspoon of creatine with 16 oz. of grape juice and 3 scoops of MRM's BCAA plus Glutamine and then eat my chicken and rice 15 minutes after that.

Thats the way to do it SF, a sup shake immideately after training and a good meal within 30 mins

Works for me!

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Re: Post workout shake: 75 grams protein & 75 grams carbs
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 01:15:10 PM »
I trained Thighs today.....I drank the combo for the first time a few minutes ago.

I use Whey Fuel for my protein source (3 scoops).

I use Ultra Fuel for my carb source (3 scoops).

I will let you guys know how it works over the next few weeks. I may go up to 100 grams of carbs soon.


Honestly...I have been just eating whole foods after a workout. So Im expecting much better results with this combo.

0.8-1.0 g/kg of a 50/50 blend of dextrose and maltodextrin
0.4-0.6 g/kg of hydrolyzed whey protein or a blend of this and a whey isolate (a minimum of 50% hydrolyzed whey)
3-5 grams of BCAA
3-5 grams of glutamine
3-5 grams of creatine monohydrate.
*Drink ½ of this mixture pre (less than 15 minutes before exercise) and/or during your workout. Because of decreased gastric emptying during moderate to high intensity exercise, it has been hypothesized that during exercise supplements should be kept to a solution of 10% concentration or less (Anataraman et al. 1995). This means that a during exercise supplement will need to be mixed in 1-2 liters of water. That is a lot of fluid to drink during a 45-60 minute workout. If it is a little more concentrated, the results will probably not be affected much, so you need to see what is going to work for you.



Dextrose (glucose): $1-2 per pound
Maltodextrin: $1-2 per pound
Hydrolyzed whey: $9-11 per pound
Whey isolates: $8-9 per pound


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