To all the EuroTrashes bashing America on Getbig (oh brother)

[FinnPilot]

100 is the top score you can get in college exams barring bonus questions, bright spot. 

Yeah, explaining me about your exams would be the same as i would tell you about what grade my teacher gave me from my 9th grade math exam. It wouldnt really tell you anything

[nzmusclemonster]

This is all clearly another case of penis envy.

[FinnPilot]

100 is the top score you can get in college exams barring bonus questions, bright spot. 

Very interesting. Let's take a look at some of America. The dirty south and the rural west. Is he trying to say that Finland has millions of the same type of people?

OR, do you mean that in your schools you have cut the normal IQ scale to 100, because no-one is expected to get above that?

[Fury]

Yeah, explaining me about your exams would be the same as i would tell you about what grade my teacher gave me from my 9th grade math exam. It wouldnt really tell you anything

I guess not. You trying to explain to me why Finland is smarter after the studies show that America is like me telling you about why America is better than Finland. It wouldn't really tell you anything you didn't already know. 

OR, do you mean that in your schools you have cut the normal IQ scale to 100, because no-one is expected to get above that?

What the fuck does the IQ scale have to do with exam grades? Are you fucking retarded?

You've yet to explain how Finland is smarter after claiming they were for 9+ pages.

[FinnPilot]

100 is the top score you can get in college exams barring bonus questions, bright spot. 

Very interesting. Let's take a look at some of America. The dirty south and the rural west. Is he trying to say that Finland has millions of the same type of people?

This is probably the 5th time that i ask you if you had problems understanding what you read.

I just wrote that OF COURSE WE DONT HAVE MILLIONS OF THEM, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A POPULATION OF 5 MILLION PEOPLE. BUT IN PERCENTAGES IT IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO SAME

[Fury]

This is probably the 5th time that i ask you if you had problems understanding what you read.

I just wrote that OF COURSE WE DONT HAVE MILLIONS OF THEM, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A POPULATION OF 5 MILLION PEOPLE. BUT IN PERCENTAGES IT IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO SAME

Do you have people living in one-room wooden shacks drinking moonshine and hunting alligators with rotten teeth and absolutely no education? You claimed Finland has free education and healthcare, so I doubt that's the case. Yet your average IQ is lower, even after we factor these people into ours.......INTERESTING!

[Saxon]

100 is the top score you can get in college exams barring bonus questions, bright spot. 

Very interesting. Let's take a look at some of America. The dirty south and the rural west. Is he trying to say that Finland has millions of the same type of people?

Yes, but you have the best university system in the world, an economy which encourages entrepreneurship, areas likes Silicon Valley, millions and millions of intelligent people all interacting with each other...Finland does not have that. These synergies more than make up for the stupid people.

[canadaphiliac]

Do you have people living in one-room wooden shacks drinking moonshine and hunting alligators with rotten teeth and absolutely no education? You claimed Finland has free education and healthcare, so I doubt that's the case. Yet your average IQ is lower, even after we factor these people into ours.......INTERESTING!

America's not dumb nearly as much as it is lazy. Some of the most intelligent people I've met in my life have been the laziest.

[Fury]

Yes, but you have the best university system in the world, an economy which encourages entrepreneurship, areas likes Silicon Valley, millions and millions of intelligent people all interacting with each other...Finland does not have that. These synergies more than make up for the stupid people.

I don't give a shit. He claimed Finland was smarter than America. Judging by what you said, this isn't the case. Is it that hard to understand?

America's not dumb nearly as much as it is lazy. Some of the most intelligent people I've met in my life have been the laziest.

I'm not going to deny that. That's not even a concern to me. This guy claimed Finland was smarter than America, trashed our education system and laughed in our face about some of the members using poor grammar. The statistics show that America is actually smarter. Plain and simple.

[bmacsys]

Yes, but you have the best university system in the world, an economy which encourages entrepreneurship, areas likes Silicon Valley, millions and millions of intelligent people all interacting with each other...Finland does not have that. These synergies more than make up for the stupid people.

I think every country has a certain amount of brain dead populace. Much as we have here on Getbig.

[FinnPilot]

I guess not. You trying to explain to me why Finland is smarter after the studies show that America is like me telling you about why America is better than Finland. It wouldn't really tell you anything you didn't already know. 

What the fuck does the IQ scale have to do with exam grades? Are you fucking retarded?

You've yet to explain how Finland is smarter after claiming they were for 9+ pages.

OK, last few pages have been about the statistics and how they are formed in terms of populations of 5million people vs 300 million people.
Another issue was, if finland is superior in terms of IQ to america, or vice versa.

Now, the second issue is easy to close, as we learned that americans have an average IQ od 97 and finns 96. So you won with a point. Congrats, you outsmart us anytime

Then, the first issue. You have yet to explain how it is easier to get a better average IQ in country where's only 5 million people, compared to US with 300 million people.

[Saxon]

I don't give a shit. He claimed Finland was smarter than America. Judging by what you said, this isn't the case. Is it that hard to understand?

I'm just explaining why Americans are smarter than Finish people....

[Fury]

OK, last few pages have been about the statistics and how they are formed in terms of populations of 5million people vs 300 million people.
Another issue was, if finland is superior in terms of IQ to america, or vice versa.

Now, the second issue is easy to close, as we learned that americans have an average IQ od 97 and finns 96. So you won with a point. Congrats, you outsmart us anytime

Then, the first issue. You have yet to explain how it is easier to get a better average IQ in country where's only 5 million people, compared to US with 300 million people.

I don't see the normal distribution playing into IQ due to the numerous factors that can influence a person's IQ outside of the country they're in.

And I'm not going to explain it again. The only thing you're arguing the point I've made is the normal distribution, which wouldn't come into play in a situation with as many outstanding variables as this. For examples, blacks as a whole have a lower IQ than whites and Europeans. Yet, how many blacks are in Finland? 10,000 maybe? Yet our IQ is still higher! Hope this helps. 

And I couldn't care less if I'm wrong. I'm not exactly making distribution pools every day. 

[Saxon]

I think every country has a certain amount of brain dead populace. Much as we have here on Getbig.

Yes, for every smart person there is a not very smart person to clean his toilet.

As for Getbig, for every smart person there are 3 not very smart people for them to own... 

[canadaphiliac]

I'm not going to deny that. That's not even a concern to me. This guy claimed Finland was smarter than America, trashed our education system and laughed in our face about some of the members using poor grammar. The statistics show that America is actually smarter. Plain and simple.

Aye, most people use poor grammer when writing because they want to, not because they're dumb. Heck, a whole language has evolved out of spelling and phrasing things unusually, l33t, 1337, or whatever you wish to call it. Americans aren't stupid, not even close, but the emphasises put on the things taught to them usually places the focus more on themselves than on other cultures and most don't really care as what happens outside of their own country rarely effects them immediately.

[bmacsys]

Aye, most people use poor grammer when writing because they want to, not because they're dumb. Heck, a whole language has evolved out of spelling and phrasing things unusually, l33t, 1337, or whatever you wish to call it. Americans aren't stupid, not even close, but the emphasises put on the things taught to them usually places the focus more on themselves than on other cultures and most don't really care as what happens outside of their own country rarely effects them immediately.

Are you Canadian?

[Saxon]

I don't see the normal distribution playing into IQ due to the numerous factors that can influence a person's IQ outside of the country they're in.

And I'm not going to explain it again. The only thing you're arguing the point I've made is the normal distribution, which wouldn't come into play in a situation with as many outstanding variables as this. For examples, blacks as a whole have a lower IQ than whites and Europeans. Yet, how many blacks are in Finland? 10,000 maybe? Yet our IQ is still higher! Hope this helps. 

And I couldn't care less if I'm wrong. I'm not exactly making distribution pools every day. 

The point you are missing is that, many statisticians have found that IQ scores across samples have approximately followed a normal distribution. 

[titusisback]

The best part of the American I.Q. vs. Finnish IQ is that it was inspired by a thread of a Finnish bodybuilder who screwed up his kidneys with excessive roid usage.

Now..if you have FREE health care, how smart is it not to use it to your advantage and at least keep your kidneys running for god sakes  

[Fury]

The point you are missing is that, many statisticians have found that IQ scores across samples have approximately followed a normal distribution. 

Actually, I just read up on normal distribution again and realized I was wrong. I wasn't going to admit it if no one bumped this thread, though. 

Doesn't change the fact the US's average IQ is higher. Regardless of population, Finland's normal distribution should be higher than the US's if they were smarter. It's not, though.

[canadaphiliac]

Are you Canadian?

Haha, not actually. I'm an American from a military family, but I was born in northern New Hampshire and all of my extended family is situated along the border and/or Great Lakes, so I've spent a good deal of time in Canada. That and, the people around where I'm from speak with a Canadian accent, and I've essentially adopted it as well, but I picked up a bit of an English accent since I moved to Arkansas from Mildenhall, England this summer.

[FinnPilot]

The best part of the American I.Q. vs. Finnish IQ is that it was inspired by a thread of a Finnish bodybuilder who screwed up his kidneys with excessive roid usage.

Now..if you have FREE health care, how smart is it not to use it to your advantage and at least keep your kidneys running for god sakes 

Well i think that for him it's a bit too late. But as for myself, i'm using the health care for my kidneys regularly. Not because i have ruined my kidneys with roids (i'm a natural lifter), but because i have a kidney disease.

[bmacsys]

Haha, not actually. I'm an American from a military family, but I was born in northern New Hampshire and all of my extended family is situated along the border and/or Great Lakes, so I've spent a good deal of time in Canada. That and, the people around where I'm from speak with a Canadian accent, and I've essentially adopted it as well, but I picked up a bit of an English accent since I moved to Arkansas from Mildenhall, England this summer.

Why I asked is would Canadians share any traits with Americans? Like thinking very little exists outside their own borders. Stuff like that?

[FinnPilot]

Actually, I just read up on normal distribution again and realized I was wrong. I wasn't going to admit it if no one bumped this thread, though. 

Doesn't change the fact the US's average IQ is higher. Regardless of population, Finland's normal distribution should be higher than the US's if they were smarter. It's not, though.

So, as a conclusion can we say that i was wrong about the IQ score, and admit that americans have 1 point higher average IQ than finns, and you admitted that you were wrong about the "average iq in 5 mil population vs 300 mil population" thing?

[Fury]

So, as a conclusion can we say that i was wrong about the IQ score, and admit that americans have 1 point higher average IQ than finns, and you admitted that you were wrong about the "average iq in 5 mil population vs 300 mil population" thing?

Yes.







































We're still smarter, though.

[Saxon]

Actually, I just read up on normal distribution again and realized I was wrong. I wasn't going to admit it if no one bumped this thread, though. 

Doesn't change the fact the US's average IQ is higher. Regardless of population, Finland's normal distribution should be higher than the US's if they were smarter. It's not, though.

I would disagree that Finland's should be higher, USA has some major advantages over every other country in the world which could plausibly explain the higher IQ than Finland...Plus it is always dark in Finland, that lack of sun and associated depression is bound to rot your brain