Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006

[donrhummy]

The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.

[Condor]

That pic is missing his greatest improvement---his back. 

[Knives]

He doesn't look too different to me....it looks like he just didn't use Lasix in 2006.

[Knives]

Oh yeah and he overtanned in 2006

[donrhummy]

That pic is missing his greatest improvement---his back. 

Done.


uh...but I don't think he improved that much... to me, it looks like his upper lats got better, and his lower lats got worse (as did his lower back/"christmas tree").

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Done.


uh...but I don't think he improved that much... to me, it looks like his upper lats got better, and his lower lats got worse (as did his lower back/"christmas tree").

Upper lats? Lower lats? 

[Andre Nickatina]

He very well could have been better because Ronnie was unbeatable.

[GoneAway]

Looks better from the back, looks worse from the front, but a pic AFTER the Olympia is not a valid comparison to a pic on the day.

[ThaRealist]

From every angle you can tell his obliques got wider...Cutler will go down in the history books as one of the least impressive Mr. Olympia's...He deserved the title only because Coleman didn't come in up to par...An on target Ronnie will always destroy a perfect Cutler hands down....

[donrhummy]

Upper lats? Lower lats? 

Hey, I understand what you're saying but LOOK at the picture. His lats upper insertion point (by the armpit) & the teres major look thicker than in 2001. His lats lower insertion point (near the external obliques) looks as though it's receeded or something. It definitely is not as thick there and looks almost to have a higher insertion point than in the past.

[chainsaw]

You are guys something forgetting important..

The skin of a deer and the

lips are hamstring, young calf!

[IceCold]

He doesn't look too different to me....it looks like he just didn't use Lasix in 2006.

actually, i dont think he did.

jay said that he had some illness and that took care of him 'drying out'.

some stomach virus where he shat constantly.

[Mr. Intenseone]

He looks better in 2001!

[Livewire]

He looks better in 2001!

yeah he does.

hey, you can leave that 535 on the bar when yo're done with the bench, mr intenseone!

[Knives]

actually, i dont think he did.

jay said that he had some illness and that took care of him 'drying out'.

some stomach virus where he shat constantly.

how convenient......

[jaejonna]

Jay 2001 was his all time best....

[getfast81]

From every angle you can tell his obliques got wider...Cutler will go down in the history books as one of the least impressive Mr. Olympia's...He deserved the title only because Coleman didn't come in up to par...An on target Ronnie will always destroy a perfect Cutler hands down....

True that.  But Jay's back did improve.  He nailed his condition in 01 and then his back declined in 03,04, and kind of came to the party in 05 and 06 he nailed it again.  That inner back is just ripped up compared to 01.  He always had the width he finally added the detail.

[DK II]

his hamstrings suck.

[chainsaw]

After second taking  look at,

glutes ripped legs more.

Chicken hair and fish ears.

[the shadow]

After second taking  look at,

glutes ripped legs more.

Chicken hair and fish ears.

fish years and chicken hair are not judged in bodybuilding..so whether he has dog ears or lion hair..nobody gives a fuck about it

[alexxx]

The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.

He doesn't measure up either way.

[hillbilly]

The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.

2001 Jay wins in the midsection
2006 Jay wins in the back and overall mass (although it isnt obvious from these pics)

its close but his back is far ahead of what it was i will go with 2006 Jay

[Knives]

If you really think about it, Jay could get worse yet still win the Olympia.

Comparing it to baseball, say in 2001 Jay Cutler hit 50 home runs, but Ronnie hit 55, Ronnie would win, but if in 2006 Jay only hit 40 home runs, but Ronnie only hit 35, Jay would be the best, as long as he beats everyone else.

SUMMARY:  Jay may have gotten worse, but Ronnie got MUCH worse, and Jay beat Ronnie.

[the shadow]

If you really think about it, Jay could get worse yet still win the Olympia.

Comparing it to baseball, say in 2001 Jay Cutler hit 50 home runs, but Ronnie hit 55, Ronnie would win, but if in 2006 Jay only hit 40 home runs, but Ronnie only hit 35, Jay would be the best, as long as he beats everyone else.

SUMMARY:  Jay may have gotten worse, but Ronnie got MUCH worse, and Jay beat Ronnie.

so you're telling me tha jay was so worse that he beat ronnie?

[Knives]

so you're telling me tha jay was so worse that he beat ronnie?

Yes, he beat Ronnie, who had a torn lat and torn tricep