WHY IS THERE SUCH A MYSTERY BEHIND DC TRAINEES???????

[SteelePegasus]

The DC way of eating is fucking pathetic and a joke.


The Training is ok.

didn't you beg him to train you....and he told you to fuck off..that he didn't like your character

that explains your venom

[DOGGCRAPP]

Yeah I'd like it if Dante could comment on this. I tried getting fat once and I didn't gain any more muscle than when I stay near 10 %

what did I do wrong ? Cause his methods seems to be: you get as fat as possible ( and you gain muscle faster that way) than you lose the fat.

didn't work for me, maybe I eated too many calories and not enough proteins  ( I eated a lot of protein, around 400)

Stavios if thats what you gathered from what Ive written then Im not even going to start to explain LOL....where have you ever seen me tell a guy to "get fat"? Ive had trainee's skip cardio and not follow how I want them to eat + blow thru boxes of donuts at nite who got fat but hey I just set the outline up, if someone doesnt want to follow it.....thats their perogative.

    Alexxx how many of my trainees pics have been on various boards now? 1000? 2000? I dont know of a trainer who has more of his trainee's pics on boards out there than I. Im not going to go search them down for people, Intensemuscle by itself had probably over 1000.....they get taken down after 1-2 years of being up there to save on board space so if you missed them, hey your "johnny come lately" and thats your fault.....Im not going to repost them all back up---it would take 3 months to do that and for what? To convince people to train my way? I dont want to convince anyone. I want people to train the way they want to train and if they get frustrated then maybe take a look at what I have people doing.  Every 2 months Alexxx you jump on a new training bandwagon so.....I dont know what else to say to you except, find something you ACTUALLY like to do and go with it and quit worrying about "damn how come those other guys are gaining so fast, do they know something I dont?"

[SteelePegasus]

stavios, english isnt your first language is it

isn't he from canada like Alexxx?

not too many smart people live there

[slaveboy1980]

Stavios if thats what you gathered from what Ive written then Im not even going to start to explain LOL....where have you ever seen me tell a guy to "get fat"? Ive had trainee's skip cardio and not follow how I want them to eat + blow thru boxes of donuts at nite who got fat but hey I just set the outline up, if someone doesnt want to follow it.....thats their perogative.

    Alexxx how many of my trainees pics have been on various boards now? 1000? 2000? I dont know of a trainer who has more of his trainee's pics on boards out there than I. Im not going to go search them down for people, Intensemuscle by itself had probably over 1000.....they get taken down after 1-2 years of being up there to save on board space so if you missed them, hey your "johnny come lately" and thats your fault.....Im not going to repost them all back up---it would take 3 months to do that and for what? To convince people to train my way? I dont want to convince anyone. I want people to train the way they want to train and if they get frustrated then maybe take a look at what I have people doing.  Every 2 months Alexxx you jump on a new training bandwagon so.....I dont know what else to say to you except, find something you ACTUALLY like to do and go with it and quit worrying about "damn how come those other guys are gaining so fast, do they know something I dont?"

doggshit: dont you know that feeding people 500g of protein per day will ruin their kidneys? how can you sleep when you know that you are destroying people from the inside?

[DOGGCRAPP]

doggshit: dont you know that feeding people 500g of protein per day will ruin their kidneys? how can you sleep when you know that you are destroying people from the inside?

Well I just look at posts like yours and realize that your about 6 years too late with the 'doggshit' part and I heard that 1497 times ago (you got to get some new material man)
and also

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/Manninen%20SNRJ%201-1-45-51-2004.pdf

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657

and I sleep like a baby

[SteelePegasus]

Well I just look at posts like yours and realize that your about 6 years too late with the 'doggshit' part and I heard that 1497 times ago (you got to get some new material man)
and also

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/Manninen%20SNRJ%201-1-45-51-2004.pdf

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657

and I sleep like a baby

with david henry in the same room?




smile, you know that was funny.

[DOGGCRAPP]

with david henry in the same room?

Actually this is whats in the same room next to me, my beautiful wife D

Dave doesnt wear a bikini that well, Im allergic to his cologne and I hear he hogs all the covers.

[slaveboy1980]

Well I just look at posts like yours and realize that your about 6 years too late with the 'doggshit' part and I heard that 1497 times ago (you got to get some new material man)
and also

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/Manninen%20SNRJ%201-1-45-51-2004.pdf

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657

and I sleep like a baby

maybe you shouldnt:

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Apr;16(2):129-52.

"Dangers of excessive protein, defined as when protein constitutes > 35% of total energy intake, include hyperaminoacidemia, hyperammonemia, hyperinsulinemia nausea, diarrhea, and even death (the "rabbit starvation syndrome"). The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy). A suggested maximum protein intake based on bodily needs, weight control evidence, and avoiding protein toxicity would be approximately of 25% of energy requirements at approximately 2 to 2.5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), corresponding to 176 g protein per day for an 80 kg individual on a 12,000kJ/d diet. This is well below the theoretical maximum safe intake range for an 80 kg person (285 to 365 g/d)"....

[Devon97]

Actually this is whats in the same room next to me, my beautiful wife D

Dave doesnt wear a bikini that well, Im allergic to his cologne and I hear he hogs all the covers.

WHy is your wife in a cage?

[BroadStreetBruiser]

WHy is your wife in a cage?

Seems like a good idea to me

[Krankenstein]

maybe you shouldnt:

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Apr;16(2):129-52.

"Dangers of excessive protein, defined as when protein constitutes > 35% of total energy intake, include hyperaminoacidemia, hyperammonemia, hyperinsulinemia nausea, diarrhea, and even death (the "rabbit starvation syndrome"). The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy). A suggested maximum protein intake based on bodily needs, weight control evidence, and avoiding protein toxicity would be approximately of 25% of energy requirements at approximately 2 to 2.5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), corresponding to 176 g protein per day for an 80 kg individual on a 12,000kJ/d diet. This is well below the theoretical maximum safe intake range for an 80 kg person (285 to 365 g/d)"....

Maybe YOU should read this:

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657

[natural al]

so what's the point of this thread?  A few guys who do DC are fat?  It's dc's fault?  That's like blaming McDonalds for people being fat.  1st there are only general guidelines out there as to dieting, so unless they work with DC he's not responsible for any of them.  2nd, it's up to the individual to monitor themselves, if you think your doing everything right and you're still getting fat then who's fault is that? 

of course it will turn into a DC bashfest, but c'mon...what ever happened to personal responsibility?  Do volume guys blame joe wieder if they get fat?  You need to think about what you're doing, if DC told me "al, you look like you'd do well eating a tub of butter a day for the next 2 months".....that wouldn't make sense to me so I wouldn't do it now if he suddenly contacted me and said, "hey, I think you might benefit from....." and I thought it was sound advice then I'd follow it..BUT, if after a few weeks I felt it wasn't working I'd look at it again and make a decision.  It's common sense,.......c'mon now.

[alexxx]

Stavios if thats what you gathered from what Ive written then Im not even going to start to explain LOL....where have you ever seen me tell a guy to "get fat"? Ive had trainee's skip cardio and not follow how I want them to eat + blow thru boxes of donuts at nite who got fat but hey I just set the outline up, if someone doesnt want to follow it.....thats their perogative.

    Alexxx how many of my trainees pics have been on various boards now? 1000? 2000? I dont know of a trainer who has more of his trainee's pics on boards out there than I. Im not going to go search them down for people, Intensemuscle by itself had probably over 1000.....they get taken down after 1-2 years of being up there to save on board space so if you missed them, hey your "johnny come lately" and thats your fault.....Im not going to repost them all back up---it would take 3 months to do that and for what? To convince people to train my way? I dont want to convince anyone. I want people to train the way they want to train and if they get frustrated then maybe take a look at what I have people doing.  Every 2 months Alexxx you jump on a new training bandwagon so.....I dont know what else to say to you except, find something you ACTUALLY like to do and go with it and quit worrying about "damn how come those other guys are gaining so fast, do they know something I dont?"

No. Everytime I switch programs my progress stalls unless I take more rest and even then.. I only grow when I lift heavier weight then I am accustomed to.  Check out the difference: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=132608.0

[alexxx]

so what's the point of this thread?  A few guys who do DC are fat?  It's dc's fault?  That's like blaming McDonalds for people being fat.  1st there are only general guidelines out there as to dieting, so unless they work with DC he's not responsible for any of them.  2nd, it's up to the individual to monitor themselves, if you think your doing everything right and you're still getting fat then who's fault is that? 

of course it will turn into a DC bashfest, but c'mon...what ever happened to personal responsibility?  Do volume guys blame joe wieder if they get fat?  You need to think about what you're doing, if DC told me "al, you look like you'd do well eating a tub of butter a day for the next 2 months".....that wouldn't make sense to me so I wouldn't do it now if he suddenly contacted me and said, "hey, I think you might benefit from....." and I thought it was sound advice then I'd follow it..BUT, if after a few weeks I felt it wasn't working I'd look at it again and make a decision.  It's common sense,.......c'mon now.

I never said it was Dante's fault. It's just a little weird that so many people have had good experience with it but are too afraid to post their pictures.

[dseiler]

doggshit: dont you know that feeding people 500g of protein per day will ruin their kidneys? how can you sleep when you know that you are destroying people from the inside?

Drink plenty of water and you'll be fine.

[Cold]

if you want to see what DC guys look like its not hard to go to youtube and search for "DC bodybuilding" or something like that. there's tons.

By the way, I can't say what method is the best but I did use DC training for an extended period of time a few years back. I credit that type of training for finally packing on some size on my arms especially triceps.

[slaveboy1980]

Maybe YOU should read this:

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657

the reference i gave is more up to date.

[slaveboy1980]

Drink plenty of water and you'll be fine.

no you wont, wishful thinking wont save your kidneys.

[Stavios]

Dante, I am sorry if you misunderstood me. I was not criticizing your methods at all.

[alexxx]

Dante if you want I will bitch slap Steven for his stupidity.

[AVBG]

What I have noticed of Dante/Doggcrapp is that he only comes out of his kennel when someone calls him on his training or trainers, but never when theres someone giving him props or asking advice (on getbig)

[alexxx]

What I have noticed of Dante/Doggcrapp is that he only comes out of his kennel when someone calls him on his training or trainers, but never when theres someone giving him props or asking advice (on getbig)

I don't blame him. His methods are posted all over the web.

[The True Adonis]

didn't you beg him to train you....and he told you to fuck off..that he didn't like your character

that explains your venom

Nope.

[Stavios]

What I have noticed of Dante/Doggcrapp is that he only comes out of his kennel when someone calls him on his training or trainers, but never when theres someone giving him props or asking advice (on getbig)

I understand him, Why would he gives out free advices when his job his training people ?
it's ok to gives advices here and there, and he already did it a lot

Also why I tought he wanted his guys to gain fat is that he always say: the quickest way to gain muscle isn't the prettiest but it sure as hell his the quickest ( or something like this )
I misunderstood him, it's my fault


note to alexxx: you would break your hands if you tried to bitch slap me  

[The True Adonis]

The DC training is ok.

The diet is just highly irrational and inefficient.

It is totally not needed.