Author Topic: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk  (Read 4708 times)

tu_holmes

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15922
  • Robot
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2007, 08:00:02 PM »
At least in my opinion after a certain amount of deaths the numbers start to lose meaning. The issue with the inflated numbers has been brought to light and that's a good thing but there are still 100,000 or so people dead.

Then you have to ask yourself, what is the magic number of deaths that ARE allowed...

ribonucleic

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5158
  • I bring you ultimate reality!
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2007, 08:07:16 PM »
Any chance of you revealing exactly which nation you find yourself in, or will you evade the question again?

I seem to recall answering this question for you before - in spite of the fact that your tone would make "Bugger off, twat" and equally suitable response.

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. America.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=salt+lake+city,+utah&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=40.765201,-111.890259&spn=0.124034,0.346069&om=1


BRUCE

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1971
  • Different Dunes, Same Sand
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2007, 08:09:29 PM »
I seem to recall answering this question for you before - in spite of the fact that your tone would make "Bugger off, twat" and equally suitable response.

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. America.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=salt+lake+city,+utah&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=40.765201,-111.890259&spn=0.124034,0.346069&om=1

Thanks, I'm aware of where that is.  Which socialist paradise will you be fleeing to shortly, following your realisation that you actually live in the land of the free?
Thread Killer

ribonucleic

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5158
  • I bring you ultimate reality!
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2007, 08:14:40 PM »
Thanks, I'm aware of where that is.  Which socialist paradise will you be fleeing to shortly, following your realisation that you actually live in the land of the free?

My expatriation fantasies once involved Sydney, believe it or not - with their beaches full of lovely Sheilas.

However, you guys seem to be following the UK into Big Brother-land. Maybe New Zealand will hold out longer.

BRUCE

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1971
  • Different Dunes, Same Sand
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2007, 08:30:41 PM »
My expatriation fantasies once involved Sydney, believe it or not - with their beaches full of lovely Sheilas.

However, you guys seem to be following the UK into Big Brother-land. Maybe New Zealand will hold out longer.

Oh yes, you appear to understand the Australian 'Big Brother' scenario well.  You're another socialist admirer that pens his thoughts from the safety and freedom of the West.
Thread Killer

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63775
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2007, 10:29:13 PM »
And this thread was started from an assertion i made that pretty much said:

Unless you are kurd, Iraq is a more dangerous place now than before the war.

I disagree.  Before the war, Iraqis faced a danger just as grave as the insurgents who are murdering them now:   a brutal dictator with a history of torturing and murdering his own people.  In other words, the Iraqi people faced a grave danger from the Iraqi government before the war.  There is no question that Saddam tortured and murdered Iraqi citizens.  Whether or not he tortured and killed more Iraqis than the insurgents  have murdered during the current war isn't all that relevant in my book. 

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22729
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: Lancet Study: '655,000 Dead' = Bunk
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2007, 09:01:42 AM »
I disagree.  Before the war, Iraqis faced a danger just as grave as the insurgents who are murdering them now:   a brutal dictator with a history of torturing and murdering his own people.  In other words, the Iraqi people faced a grave danger from the Iraqi government before the war.  There is no question that Saddam tortured and murdered Iraqi citizens.  Whether or not he tortured and killed more Iraqis than the insurgents  have murdered during the current war isn't all that relevant in my book. 

Absolutely no way.  Pre war Iraq was civil and FAR less violent, there weren't bombs going off in local markets killing 40, 50 and 100 people, students weren't getting kidnapped, etc...  Yes, Saddam was doing what saddam does, but only to those who threaten his power which were no where near the 50K-100K reported dead since the war. 

As a citizen of Iraq, you could walk the streets and go to work and school with out fear as long as you didn;t get in the way of Saddam by challanging his power, something ordinary citizens don;t usually do.  They are concerned with just living and prospering, they can;t do that now becuase they are getting threaten at ever corner from insurgents.

It's a very poor comparison:   Saddam rule vs. insurgent violence.

We made a bigger mess because of our irresponsible handling of this war.